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Re: Drugs like cocaine
« Reply #15 on: 11 October 2019, 21:57:18 »

Legalise the lot and tax it
Having had the misfortune of dealing with various scum who think that doing half a kilo of coke just before closing time is a really good idea, legalising it will achieve absolutely zero beyond possibly raising a bit of tax revenue.

If anything it would make consumption go up.

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Re: Drugs like cocaine
« Reply #16 on: 11 October 2019, 22:12:59 »

And that is the issue.

Consumption is on the up.

Are drugs the new alcohol or cigarettes.? On the news item hairdresser said they all went in the back to snort a line.

Humans have form for working then spending their money on pleasure.
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Re: Drugs like cocaine
« Reply #17 on: 11 October 2019, 22:41:35 »

Legalise the lot and tax it
Having had the misfortune of dealing with various scum who think that doing half a kilo of coke just before closing time is a really good idea, legalising it will achieve absolutely zero beyond possibly raising a bit of tax revenue.

If anything it would make consumption go up.

And having spent the last 25 yrs of my full time career as an addiction specialist working with the hardcore Heroin and Crack cocaine addicts daily I am experienced enough to know you are talking out of your arse, it's not going away and never will, currently your PAYE and NI contributions are paying my wages and for the prison populations telly's and baccy. Legalisation will reduce the street value, reduce offending, communicable diseases, deaths and financial burden of imprisoning people.

I'd like to meet the man who could snort half a kilo too !
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Re: Drugs like cocaine
« Reply #18 on: 11 October 2019, 22:50:05 »

My Canadian friend now buys his weed legally online from regulated producers and it arrives in the post, rather than meeting criminals on street corners.  :)
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Re: Drugs like cocaine
« Reply #19 on: 12 October 2019, 07:45:11 »

Legalise the lot and tax it
Having had the misfortune of dealing with various scum who think that doing half a kilo of coke just before closing time is a really good idea, legalising it will achieve absolutely zero beyond possibly raising a bit of tax revenue.

If anything it would make consumption go up.

And having spent the last 25 yrs of my full time career as an addiction specialist working with the hardcore Heroin and Crack cocaine addicts daily I am experienced enough to know you are talking out of your arse, it's not going away and never will, currently your PAYE and NI contributions are paying my wages and for the prison populations telly's and baccy. Legalisation will reduce the street value, reduce offending, communicable diseases, deaths and financial burden of imprisoning people.

I'd like to meet the man who could snort half a kilo too !
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Re: Drugs like cocaine
« Reply #20 on: 12 October 2019, 08:07:56 »

Drug dealers are the most ruthless people on the planet. If drugs were legalised (presumably for over 18,s) they would change their business model, by selling to under 18,s, and selling much stronger variants than the legal versions.
Whats the answer ? there isn't one, unless we grow a pair and restore the death penalty for a lot of serious crimes, including dealing drugs.
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Re: Drugs like cocaine
« Reply #21 on: 12 October 2019, 09:39:13 »

Humans have form for working then spending their money on pleasure.
Ain't that the truth, although I've always been a bit more birds and booze than hardcore drugs.
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Re: Drugs like cocaine
« Reply #22 on: 12 October 2019, 10:07:01 »

There's nowt wrong with a bit of charlie on a night out. Or a night in for that matter  ;D
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Re: Drugs like cocaine
« Reply #23 on: 12 October 2019, 12:05:14 »

Until your septum falls off in the bath. Or it becomes a very expensive habit you cant give up.
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Re: Drugs like cocaine
« Reply #24 on: 12 October 2019, 12:27:42 »

Objectively, if you were to pick two drugs to legalise, alcohol and tobacco wouldn't be them.
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Re: Drugs like cocaine
« Reply #25 on: 12 October 2019, 12:30:15 »

Until your septum falls off in the bath. Or it becomes a very expensive habit you cant give up.
Bollix, Albs. Not every smoker gets lung cancer and not every drinker is an alcoholic.
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Re: Drugs like cocaine
« Reply #26 on: 12 October 2019, 13:33:16 »

Not saying its inevitable by any means, but its a gamble. Same as smoking cannabis is playing Russian roulette with your sanity. Some people enjoy it with no lasting effects. Others end up in an awful mental state because of it. My son used to swear it was harmless enjoyment until it drove him to the brink of suicide. It took him 15 years to recover from the effect it had on him.
Hence why I hate drugs and would happily shoot anyone who advocates normalising them.
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Re: Drugs like cocaine
« Reply #27 on: 12 October 2019, 14:54:38 »

My half kilo statement was obviously tongue in cheek >:( but the obvious effects various drugs had on otherwise normal, reasonable people and having to deal with those people week in week out was enough to make me stop taxi driving. And that wasn't just the passengers. :-X

Also my supervisor of six years at one of my first jobs developed also serious mental issues from smoking more and more weed over the years. Did him no favours whatsoever.

Not suggesting that addiction isn't something that needs to be dealt with, and if that's how you choose to waste your time that that's your choice, but recreational drug use/abuse serves zero purpose in a functioning society.

I am with Albs on the shooting solution. Legalisation only condones poor choices.
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Re: Drugs like cocaine
« Reply #28 on: 12 October 2019, 15:11:38 »

Cannabis used to be relatively harmless, but the skunk that's in use today is highly dangerous. As has been said, it can drive you nuts. But, like everything else, it is a conscious choice.
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Re: Drugs like cocaine
« Reply #29 on: 12 October 2019, 15:21:45 »

Can we stop people taking drugs. No.

Can we (the government) advise there may be physical and mental consequences for some. Yes.

I would go down the control and tax route. Try it for  3 years and see what happens. The system we currently have in place clearly isn't working.

Tax take could be considerable.



 
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