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[Lizzie Zoom]

The Jeremy Kyle show has been pulled from screening and recording of all episodes after a guest died shortly after filming. The incident is being very seriously investigated, so one wonders what has happened
https://news.sky.com/story/jeremy-kyle-show-taken-off-air-after-participant-dies-11718958


I know what I think of him and this show, but has he now pushed things too far?

Some online comments make for some interesting reading

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

I wouldn't lose any sleep over the demise of Jeremy Kyle himself.
Unlikeable shithead.

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

........and apparently he can't get it up.

[STEMO]

........and apparently he can't get it up.

Only you would know that 

[Doctor Gollum]

Media mudslinging. No more no less.

For all that 'article' knows, they were hit by a bus

For all its entertainment focus, that show does actually take its duty of care very seriously, hence ITV and the production company pressing pause.

But let's not let that get in the way of a rival broadcaster casting aspersions 

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

........and apparently he can't get it up.

Only you would know that 

I think he was planning a show around his own erectile dysfunction.

[Sir Tigger KC]

The article states that the person died a week after taking part in the show, so as Dr G says could have been hit by a bus or had a heroin overdose or something. 

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

Possibly died from the humiliation of appearing on the Jeremy Kyle show.

[Lizzie Zoom]

Possibly died from the humiliation of appearing on the Jeremy Kyle show.

Possibly.  But for ITV to pull such a popular show, and damage it's advertising revenue, it must be something serious that links what happened to the programme.

I am sure we will all find out the truth in due course.

[Doctor Gollum]

........and apparently he can't get it up.

Only you would know that 

I think he was planning a show around his own erectile dysfunction.

Come again...


Oh wai... 

[Lizzie Zoom]

Media mudslinging. No more no less.

For all that 'article' knows, they were hit by a bus

For all its entertainment focus, that show does actually take its duty of care very seriously, hence ITV and the production company pressing pause.

But let's not let that get in the way of a rival broadcaster casting aspersions 

That is now being questioned openly on ITV news, their lead story!:(

[Olympia5776]

I cannot , under any circumstances , understand how any person of intelligence would be remotly concerned about that programme being pulled.
I have only ever been subjected to snippets of it but found it utterly cringeworthy in it's public display of human misery from a particular social class.
Lowest level of entertainment , ever.

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

I cannot , under any circumstances , understand how any person of intelligence would be remotly concerned about that programme being pulled.
I have only ever been subjected to snippets of it but found it utterly cringeworthy in it's public display of human misery from a particular social class.
Lowest level of entertainment , ever.

You are probably being over kind.

[Lizzie Zoom]

I cannot , under any circumstances , understand how any person of intelligence would be remotly concerned about that programme being pulled.
I have only ever been subjected to snippets of it but found it utterly cringeworthy in it's public display of human misery from a particular social class.
Lowest level of entertainment , ever.

I utterly agree, but thousands one million viewers make this ITV's best day time programme!!

Says everything about our society

[Raeturbo]

Aye and that t#at Kyle is lower than any of them f@cking hypocrite. Waster, etc.

[Varche]

I cannot , under any circumstances , understand how any person of intelligence would be remotly concerned about that programme being pulled.
I have only ever been subjected to snippets of it but found it utterly cringeworthy in it's public display of human misery from a particular social class.
Lowest level of entertainment , ever.

[biggriffin]

The great unwashed will hold a white-lighting, special brew vigil

[Lizzie Zoom]

The article states that the person died a week after taking part in the show, so as Dr G says could have been hit by a bus or had a heroin overdose or something. 

It was suicide, a week after the man had failed a lie detector test,  Surprised there have not been more!!:

https://www.itv.com/news/granada/2019-05-14/itv-urged-to-axe-the-jeremy-kyle-show-after-apparent-suicide-of-a-man-who-failed-a-lie-detector-test/

 


Looks like it's curtains for this terrible 'show'!!

[TheBoy]

I cannot , under any circumstances , understand how any person of intelligence would be remotly concerned about that programme being pulled.
I have only ever been subjected to snippets of it but found it utterly cringeworthy in it's public display of human misery from a particular social class.
Lowest level of entertainment , ever.

I agree wholeheartedly.

But we've bred a generation of Big Brother fans, soaps that have to explore (extreme) current affairs, and what are what my generation used to refer to as Trailer Trash - for once the yanks had a better name.


Hence we have a generation of pretty thick people who you look at with that look of "100m sperm, and that was the fastest?".


As to the actual incident, it was a week later, and nobody knows, or cares, what happened.  Lets face it, if the person was suicidal enough to go on the I-let-my-wife-shag-around programme, they were oppsed anyway.  One less for the cull.

[TheBoy]

Looks like it's curtains for this terrible 'show'!!

Opps, should have read entire thread before I replied.

If they axe this one, another trailer trash version will take its place.  Our British spongers love it.

[Lizzie Zoom]

Looks like it's curtains for this terrible 'show'!!

Opps, should have read entire thread before I replied.

If they axe this one, another trailer trash version will take its place.  Our British spongers love it.

Yes, and so do ITV and the like.  It is relatively  cheap television to make, compared to a drama or documentary, and it sells masses of advertising so the shareholders love it as well with their bank accounts swelling!

All achieved by humiliating the weakest, more vulnerable members of our society and they call it "entertainment"!!

[Nick W]

Yes, and so do ITV and the like.  It is relatively  cheap television to make, compared to a drama or documentary, and it sells masses of advertising so the shareholders love it as well with their bank accounts swelling!

All achieved by humiliating the weakest, more vulnerable members of our society and they call it "entertainment"!!

That's been procedure for all of history, why would TV be any different?

[TheBoy]

All achieved by humiliating the weakest, more vulnerable members of our society and they call it "entertainment"!!

When I'm in power, daytime telly will be more entertaining and dramatic. And cheap.

[Lizzie Zoom]

Yes, and so do ITV and the like.  It is relatively  cheap television to make, compared to a drama or documentary, and it sells masses of advertising so the shareholders love it as well with their bank accounts swelling!

All achieved by humiliating the weakest, more vulnerable members of our society and they call it "entertainment"!!

That's been procedure for all of history, why would TV be any different?

Because in the past this type of programme, with the dreadful content, would never have been aired.  Standards of TV have gone backwards. 

I caught part of the Jeremy Vine radio show today when he was discussing with two guests the Kyle issue.  It resulted in one of them, an MP whose name I did not hear, walked off the show when Whine suggested that they couldn't take the Kyle show off air as so many people would be unhappy...........!!!  The MP called Vine "a joke" as he complained that he thought this would be a serious discussion and then walked.

When Vine said that I thought of historical public executions and how some of the public then must have been so upset when it ended!

[Lizzie Zoom]

All achieved by humiliating the weakest, more vulnerable members of our society and they call it "entertainment"!!

When I'm in power, daytime telly will be more entertaining and dramatic. And cheap.

Ah, surely TB if I have understood your culling policy to date there will no longer be the target audience for such trash.  We that are left will be demanding only quality television

[Auto Addict]

All achieved by humiliating the weakest, more vulnerable members of our society and they call it "entertainment"!!

When I'm in power, daytime telly will be more entertaining and dramatic. And cheap.

Ah, surely TB if I have understood your culling policy to date there will no longer be the target audience for such trash.  We that are left will be demanding only quality television

Don't humour him

[Nick W]

Jeremy Vine is in the same market as Jeremy Kyle, just for outraged of Tunbridge Wells rather than Wayne and Waynetta from Croydon

[biggriffin]

All achieved by humiliating the weakest, more vulnerable members of our society and they call it "entertainment"!!

When I'm in power, daytime telly will be more entertaining and dramatic. And cheap.

Will the culling be live on TV, be good for ratings.

The first show will definitely have the eBay CEO  first up, closely followed by ecp. The list is endless

[Lizzie Zoom]

All achieved by humiliating the weakest, more vulnerable members of our society and they call it "entertainment"!!

When I'm in power, daytime telly will be more entertaining and dramatic. And cheap.

Ah, surely TB if I have understood your culling policy to date there will no longer be the target audience for such trash.  We that are left will be demanding only quality television

Don't humour him

Well we have to keep him happy as he could turn on us.  It happens with dictators!

[Doctor Gollum]

Before I start, I must say that I am not a fan of either Jeremy nor their shows. If it was done behind closed doors, then the fundamental principle behind the Jeremy Kyle/Jerry Springfield/Esther Rantzen/Kilroy etc shows is sound as they do actually try and help people. Also, the people who go into these programmes do so of their own free will, they may well be victims of their life choices, but they are certainly not victims* of the production companies.

The bluster you see on the screen is for audience benefit as it's an effective form of car crash TV.

The value of such shows to the TV companies is in the ratings... The more people tune in, the higher the value of the advertising revenue.

And that's the crux of it, the content is largely irrelevant as people will watch pretty much anything. It's all about selling product to the masses...

*self inflicted exploitation is not the same as being a victim.

[Lizzie Zoom]

Before I start, I must say that I am not a fan of either Jeremy nor their shows. If it was done behind closed doors, then the fundamental principle behind the Jeremy Kyle/Jerry Springfield/Esther Rantzen/Kilroy etc shows is sound as they do actually try and help people. Also, the people who go into these programmes do so of their own free will, they may well be victims of their life choices, but they are certainly not victims* of the production companies.

The bluster you see on the screen is for audience benefit as it's an effective form of car crash TV.

The value of such shows to the TV companies is in the ratings... The more people tune in, the higher the value of the advertising revenue.

And that's the crux of it, the content is largely irrelevant as people will watch pretty much anything. It's all about selling product to the masses...

*self inflicted exploitation is not the same as being a victim.

Agreed DG

It is that 20th/21st question of how far should the State, Society or groups go to protect/control individuals freedom to take responsibility for their actions and take the consequences of their choices.  Our politicians have still not learnt that one. Should we protect the weakest most vulnerable, or let them make their own free decisions regardless of what could happen to them as apparently in the case of this suicide?

Let TB answer that one as I cannot in all honesty, believing in democracy and personal freedoms, subject to the law, and not a dictatorship where all decisions are made for us, including life or death!

[Doctor Gollum]

Will it generate revenue and therefore taxes?

If not noone will actually do anything about it.

[Lizzie Zoom]

Will it generate revenue and therefore taxes?

If not noone will actually do anything about it.

Yes, that is Capitalism in action.  In business I was always asked when submitting a 'Capex' (request for large capital expenditure) "will it benefit the business and produce profit?"

That question still goes round and round in my mind, and that will now be in the minds of ITV executives as they decide the future of The Jeremy Kyle show. How public opinion could damage their revenue, not how it affects the members of the public involved!

[TheBoy]

Whine would star in the first show.

[TheBoy]

believing in democracy and personal freedoms, subject to the law, and not a dictatorship

They are not mutually exclusive.  Whether the laws are made democratically* or in a dictorial manner is largely irrelevant.  Ultimately, we still believe in our Monarchy

Some (many?) dictators become corrupt, and that's a big problem. But then do many democratically elected* leaders.


* In reality, we know that democracy doesn't work like the idealism its envisaged it should.  In fact, I'd argue quite the opposite, and because we have too many do-gooders and nimbys, anything that is agreed is watered down, unworkable, complex, expensive uselessness.

[2boxerdogs]

Great news , take it off & keep it off , load of absolute shite.

[Lizzie Zoom]

believing in democracy and personal freedoms, subject to the law, and not a dictatorship

They are not mutually exclusive.  Whether the laws are made democratically* or in a dictorial manner is largely irrelevant.  Ultimately, we still believe in our Monarchy

Some (many?) dictators become corrupt, and that's a big problem. But then do many democratically elected* leaders.


* In reality, we know that democracy doesn't work like the idealism its envisaged it should.  In fact, I'd argue quite the opposite, and because we have too many do-gooders and nimbys, anything that is agreed is watered down, unworkable, complex, expensive uselessness.

That is because of course we have a 'Reprensative' government which, contrary to popular belief, means the MP's are elected to act on our behalf, but actually do what they think is right and not necessarily what their constituents want. That process is a dangerous one for any MP, but since the creation of our Parliament, they often follow that course, as in the case of Brexit.

The MP's also have lobby groups wispering in their ears, and that is when you get the spineless, weak, and generally lacking MP's letting poor policies travel, whereas a bulldog type politician would kick those into touch regardless of the fallout. That is when we get the "watered down, unworkable, complex, expensive uselessness" decisions being made

[Migv6 le Frog Fan]

ITV have permanently cancelled the show. About 10 years too late, but better ,late than never I suppose.

[Lizzie Zoom]

ITV have permanently cancelled the show. About 10 years too late, but better ,late than never I suppose.

Great news!!

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

ITV have permanently cancelled the show. About 10 years too late, but better ,late than never I suppose.

The idea of Jeremy Kyle being terminated is not without it's appeal.

[STEMO]

There will be those who feel that they have lost a large chunk of their morning routine 

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

There will be those who feel that they have lost a large chunk of their morning routine 

Surely they have repeat episodes of Cash in the attic to fall back on......

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

There will be those who feel that they have lost a large chunk of their morning routine 

Surely they have repeat episodes of Cash in the attic to fall back on......

..........and Homes under the hammer from 2013.

[STEMO]

There will be those who feel that they have lost a large chunk of their morning routine 

Surely they have repeat episodes of Cash in the attic to fall back on......

..........and Homes under the hammer from 2013.

No matter how many times you watch homes under the hammer or bargain hunt, you can never remember what the end result is. Either that, or I've got albsheimers. 

[Sir Tigger KC]

Maybe they should scrap Love Island as well given that a couple of former contestants have gone on to commit suicide. 

[Bigron]

I caught the briefest of glimpses of "Mrs Brown's Boys - and I wanted to commit suicide!
How can anyone watch - or like - such excrement?

Ron.

[Lizzie Zoom]

Maybe they should scrap Love Island as well given that a couple of former contestants have gone on to commit suicide. 

Indeed, and I'm sure serious questions will be asked by ITV's and other executives behind the scenes about the commercial viability of these programmes now.  Public, and MP opinion is one thing, but the risk of civil litigation, even criminal prosecution, along with loss of advertising revenue is quite another

[2boxerdogs]

Nice to see so many of us on here despise these absolutely talentless shows/ individuals, that seem to take up so much airtime on TV these days.

[BazaJT]

Don't know about singling out Love Island they should scrap all these so called "reality" TV shows.

[Lizzie Zoom]

Don't know about singling out Love Island they should scrap all these so called "reality" TV shows.

Yep, and a committee of MP's are now going to discuss the whole subject of 'reality shows'.

If Brexit is anything to go by, that probably will not mean much.  But, as I stated before it will be the commercial pressures and threats of legal action on the TV companies that will dictate what happens next

[zirk]

Ive actually been try to get on His Show for some time now but they keep rejecting me.

Then plan was when no one was looking, to punch him really hard in the face, cant stand the bloke, he's a mouth'y git as well, always playing the big one,       ......when his got his Bouncer around him.

[Sir Tigger KC]

For a bunch of folk who apparently can't stand Jeremy Kyle and never watch his show, you all seem to be well informed about the man and his TV programme.     

[78bex]

Apparently he`s got a huge female following  no accounting for taste with some women

[Bigron]

Maybe all of  the women on the Forum could explain why?

Ron.

[Sir Tigger KC]

Maybe all of  the 'Old Women' on the Forum could explain why?

Ron.

Plenty of those on here Ron! 

[78bex]

Seem to remember visiting my great uncle & chatting to him in the telly room of his nursing home. In the background I could here the adverts end & Jezza started off on one 
Great Uncle Charlie said very loudly; " I bloody well refuse to listen to that C**T " ....
Matron wasn`t happy, but what can you say to a 93 year old ex matlo 

[Lizzie Zoom]

Maybe all of  the 'Old Women' on the Forum could explain why?

Ron.

Plenty of those on here Ron! 

There is only me it seems, well who posts anyway!!  Wonder why???

Anyway, as for JK, I cannot stick him as he just seems a pompous prat who thinks he can judge others publically, whilst making himself rich.  He turns me right off!! 

AS for other women liking him, I cannot see why, but perhaps for the common masses his male dominance and seeming ability to take control is attractive   It is more likely though that us women love gossip, and seeing others having their lives exposed has some sick appeal!

For me though, thank God him and his cruel programme is no more

[Raeturbo]

I’d like to see him on....... A rotisserie.

[Kevin Wood]

I’d like to see him on....... A rotisserie.

Me too, but I think I'd take the veggie option at the banquet that followed.

[Doctor Gollum]

KW eating a tofu burger would be a good opener for the next series of Doctor Phil

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

Jeremy Kyle seems to have few if any redeeming attributes.

[TheBoy]

Great news , take it off & keep it off , load of absolute shite.

It'll be replaced with same-ol-shite trailer trash my-husband-has-been-shagging-my-grandma type dross.

[Sir Tigger KC]

I'm still amazed that you all seem to care, given that apparently none of you watch it? 

[TheBoy]

That is because of course we have a 'Reprensative' government which, contrary to popular belief, means the MP's are elected to act on our behalf, but actually do what they think is right and not necessarily what their constituents want.

And obeying their constituents is precisely why democracy doesn't work. Too many people with differing views.  Dictorial options solve all that.

Take your Brexit example - the country voted to leave (and thus we should), but you can bet the most vocal people writing to their local MP are those not getting what they want, so I imagine that MPs are hearing a lot of anti Brexit views.  But its similar on any subject.


And dictators can shoot people, so that gets my vote.  Thumbs up to the North Korean nutter who used an anti aircraft gun to punish his head of (defence I think).  Proper job.

[TheBoy]

I'm still amazed that you all seem to care, given that apparently none of you watch it? 

I care deeply, because it breeds a society of, well, todays society.

So can Kirk now apply to visit the other wankstain hell bent on drumming up support for those that need culling. ie, that idiot from Radio 2

[Sir Tigger KC]

I'm still amazed that you all seem to care, given that apparently none of you watch it? 

I care deeply, because it breeds a society of, well, todays society.

So can Kirk now apply to visit the other wankstain hell bent on drumming up support for those that need culling. ie, that idiot from Radio 2

Which one?  There are lots of idiots on R2! 

Personally I couldn't give 2 shits whether the JK show survived or not.   

Apart from seeing it occasionally I've never watched it habitually, and when I have watched it, have wondered why people would subject themselves to such humiliation on national TV. 

But hey, we live (supposedly) in a free country and nobody is forced to go on it or watch it, but people do and apparently plenty of people enjoy watching it.  It's survived for years after all. 

It's unfortunate that this guy topped himself, but he was an adult who freely subjected himself to the lie detector test and got caught out.  If it was found that the lie detector test was rigged to provide 'good TV' then yes that would be something to get outraged about, but why get outraged about something that people do volutarily?

This is just another example of the 'we know better than you' lefty shite that is pervading our society.  Don't like it?  Ban it!   

[STEMO]

TV, in general, is, and always has been, a dangerous tool. Climate change, menstruation, mental health are just three of the subjects that focus groups are urging the people who write the storylines for soaps and dramas to include. Whilst these are noble causes, I don't think the general soap-watching public should be brainwashed by the likes of Eastenders, Corrie, etc. As Jaime says, we've seen the effect that trash tv has had on the people that watch it and, if you can change people's behaviour towards the three subjects I mentioned above, then you can do it in much more sinister ways.

[Raeturbo]

TV, in general, is, and always has been, a dangerous tool. Climate change, menstruation, mental health are just three of the subjects that focus groups are urging the people who write the storylines for soaps and dramas to include. Whilst these are noble causes, I don't think the general soap-watching public should be brainwashed by the likes of Eastenders, Corrie, etc. As Jaime says, we've seen the effect that trash tv has had on the people that watch it and, if you can change people's behaviour towards the three subjects I mentioned above, then you can do it in much more sinister ways.

.         Yes, good one.

[Lizzie Zoom]

TV, in general, is, and always has been, a dangerous tool. Climate change, menstruation, mental health are just three of the subjects that focus groups are urging the people who write the storylines for soaps and dramas to include. Whilst these are noble causes, I don't think the general soap-watching public should be brainwashed by the likes of Eastenders, Corrie, etc. As Jaime says, we've seen the effect that trash tv has had on the people that watch it and, if you can change people's behaviour towards the three subjects I mentioned above, then you can do it in much more sinister ways.

Yes indeed.  Just imagine how Goebbels could have used television and in particular the soaps

[Raeturbo]

The majority of  so called news is mostly propaganda anyway as far as I can see it.

[Sir Tigger KC]

TV, in general, is, and always has been, a dangerous tool. Climate change, menstruation, mental health are just three of the subjects that focus groups are urging the people who write the storylines for soaps and dramas to include. Whilst these are noble causes, I don't think the general soap-watching public should be brainwashed by the likes of Eastenders, Corrie, etc. As Jaime says, we've seen the effect that trash tv has had on the people that watch it and, if you can change people's behaviour towards the three subjects I mentioned above, then you can do it in much more sinister ways.

Yes indeed.  Just imagine how Goebbels could have used television and in particular the soaps

Ah yes silly me,  the untermenge need protecting from themselves.