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[Sir Tigger KC]

50 murders so far this year in London, which is more than New York! 

So what the hell is going on? 

Are the cutbacks to police budgets bringing anarchy to our streets?

The gradual 'progressive' liberation of drugs laws causing turf wars between gangs and suppliers?

And what's to be done?    Crack a few heads? Kid Gloves? 

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

Primarily but not exclusively black boys killing black boys. Boys from the hood type of stuff.

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

50 murders so far this year in London, which is more than New York! 

So what the hell is going on? 

Are the cutbacks to police budgets bringing anarchy to our streets?

The gradual 'progressive' liberation of drugs laws causing turf wars between gangs and suppliers?

And what's to be done?    Crack a few heads? Kid Gloves? 

An up to date version of Robocop.

[STEMO]

As long as it's all operation trident sort of stuff, there's nothing to be done. Different culture.

[STEMO]

In the latest killing in London, passers by flagged down a police car to report the crime. If it happened in Barnsley, there would be nothing but a skeleton by the time a police car came by.

[tigers_gonads]

50 murders so far this year in London, which is more than New York! 

So what the hell is going on? 

Are the cutbacks to police budgets bringing anarchy to our streets?

The gradual 'progressive' liberation of drugs laws causing turf wars between gangs and suppliers?

And what's to be done?    Crack a few heads? Kid Gloves? 

Knife and bullet scars held as a mark of respect.
Postcode wars between gangs.
Total lack of respect for life as a whole.
Arguments on social media turning to full blown conflict due to keyboard warriors and the "respect" thing.
Lack of parents been around to crack these little shits around the head when they were young.
Cee U Next Tuesday ish arseholes like Diane Abbot and Khan (the lord mayor of londistan) spouting shite every time they open there mouths 
Spineless police who are terrified of taking these scum on in case they get called "Racist" 
The media as a whole playing one group off against another because it makes good new / good ratings 

The cure ?

A complete blackout on the news and social media off all goings on in these areas.
Declare marshal law and send the forces in to shoot the little shits on sight.
Make all bodies disappear and if the parents have a problem, explain that its there fault for doing a parenting and and shoot them too 

Word will soon get around and the scum of our cities will learn to behave 

[Migv6 le Frog Fan]

That reads like an application to be Home secretary when TB becomes our Dictator. 
Afaik, a lot of Police staions have been shut in London recently. Not the cause of the problem of course, but it cant help matters.

[Viral_Jim]

Probably something to do with the £11bn annual illegal drug market that's up for grabs at the point of a knife/barrel of a gun. Solution: legalise it and tax the cr@p out of it. 

[omegod]

There's a complete generation lost sadly, recent event locally

An illegal scrambler bike is riding at up to 100 mph through a busy shopping area, knobhead loses control hits a wall without helmet,license,insurance and police attending the scene get harrassed ,abused and tyres let down etc by other local gobshites. Little scrote dies a few days later and apparently he was a diamond, would do anything for anyone, never hurt a fly and other 'dangle berries'.

One less problem in my opinion   

[STEMO]

There's a complete generation lost sadly, recent event locally

An illegal scrambler bike is riding at up to 100 mph through a busy shopping area, knobhead loses control hits a wall without helmet,license,insurance and police attending the scene get harrassed ,abused and tyres let down etc by other local gobshites. Little scrote dies a few days later and apparently he was a diamond, would do anything for anyone, never hurt a fly and other 'dangle berries'.

One less problem in my opinion 

Hit the wall of the Farmers Arms, just up the road from where mum lives.

[tigers_gonads]

There's a complete generation lost sadly, recent event locally

An illegal scrambler bike is riding at up to 100 mph through a busy shopping area, knobhead loses control hits a wall without helmet,license,insurance and police attending the scene get harrassed ,abused and tyres let down etc by other local gobshites. Little scrote dies a few days later and apparently he was a diamond, would do anything for anyone, never hurt a fly and other 'dangle berries'.

One less problem in my opinion 

More like 2 or 3 generations sadly 
You can also throw in the lefty student type teachers of the late 70's / early 80's and beyond who didn't believe in discipline and let you call them by there first name.
If you have parents and teachers who don't give a fook, you end up with feral kids who became feral young adults   

Fight fire with fire I say, or just castrate the lot of them and stick them on a island somewhere to die off quietly. 

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

50 murders so far this year in London, which is more than New York! 

So what the hell is going on? 

Are the cutbacks to police budgets bringing anarchy to our streets?

The gradual 'progressive' liberation of drugs laws causing turf wars between gangs and suppliers?

And what's to be done?    Crack a few heads? Kid Gloves? 

Knife and bullet scars held as a mark of respect.
Postcode wars between gangs.
Total lack of respect for life as a whole.
Arguments on social media turning to full blown conflict due to keyboard warriors and the "respect" thing.
Lack of parents been around to crack these little shits around the head when they were young.
Cee U Next Tuesday ish arseholes like Diane Abbot and Khan (the lord mayor of londistan) spouting shite every time they open there mouths 
Spineless police who are terrified of taking these scum on in case they get called "Racist" 
The media as a whole playing one group off against another because it makes good new / good ratings 

The cure ?

A complete blackout on the news and social media off all goings on in these areas.
Declare marshal law and send the forces in to shoot the little shits on sight.
Make all bodies disappear and if the parents have a problem, explain that its there fault for doing a parenting and and shoot them too 

Word will soon get around and the scum of our cities will learn to behave 

Well...when the 17 year old kid is paralysed from the waist down and pissing in a bag with a knob that won't go hard I doubt that 'respect' from other gang members will mean much to him.

[tigers_gonads]

There's a complete generation lost sadly, recent event locally

An illegal scrambler bike is riding at up to 100 mph through a busy shopping area, knobhead loses control hits a wall without helmet,license,insurance and police attending the scene get harrassed ,abused and tyres let down etc by other local gobshites. Little scrote dies a few days later and apparently he was a diamond, would do anything for anyone, never hurt a fly and other 'dangle berries'.

One less problem in my opinion 

Hit the wall of the Farmers Arms, just up the road from where mum lives.

Was the wall okay ? 

[tigers_gonads]

50 murders so far this year in London, which is more than New York! 

So what the hell is going on? 

Are the cutbacks to police budgets bringing anarchy to our streets?

The gradual 'progressive' liberation of drugs laws causing turf wars between gangs and suppliers?

And what's to be done?    Crack a few heads? Kid Gloves? 

Knife and bullet scars held as a mark of respect.
Postcode wars between gangs.
Total lack of respect for life as a whole.
Arguments on social media turning to full blown conflict due to keyboard warriors and the "respect" thing.
Lack of parents been around to crack these little shits around the head when they were young.
Cee U Next Tuesday ish arseholes like Diane Abbot and Khan (the lord mayor of londistan) spouting shite every time they open there mouths 
Spineless police who are terrified of taking these scum on in case they get called "Racist" 
The media as a whole playing one group off against another because it makes good new / good ratings 

The cure ?

A complete blackout on the news and social media off all goings on in these areas.
Declare marshal law and send the forces in to shoot the little shits on sight.
Make all bodies disappear and if the parents have a problem, explain that its there fault for doing a parenting and and shoot them too 

Word will soon get around and the scum of our cities will learn to behave 

Well...when the 17 year old kid is paralysed from the waist down and pissing in a bag with a knob that won't go hard I doubt that 'respect' from other gang members will mean much to him.

True that sadly 

[aaronjb]

Fight fire with fire I say, or just castrate the lot of them and stick them on a island somewhere to die off quietly. 

We tried that once already.. and look at Australia now!

[tigers_gonads]

Fight fire with fire I say, or just castrate the lot of them and stick them on a island somewhere to die off quietly. 

We tried that once already.. and look at Australia now!

Lmfao 
I supose we could export them on a one for one basis accross the chanel to froggie land 
I'm sure Macron would sort out the borders then 

[Varche]

There's a complete generation lost sadly, recent event locally

An illegal scrambler bike is riding at up to 100 mph through a busy shopping area, knobhead loses control hits a wall without helmet,license,insurance and police attending the scene get harrassed ,abused and tyres let down etc by other local gobshites. Little scrote dies a few days later and apparently he was a diamond, would do anything for anyone, never hurt a fly and other 'dangle berries'.

One less problem in my opinion 

I have been following this London murders story and the high UK seaside towns drug death rates.

Some interesting Spanish stuff too. Drugs coming in from Africa are now overwhelming the police forces( 20,000 euros is the going rate for the police each to be somewhere else when a shipment comes in from Africa. A drug lord was recently hurt during arrest and taken to hospital under armed guard for treatment. 20 hooded armed gang members rescued him from the hospital. The other day police arrested a gang member with five kilos of drugs. The locals "stormed" the police and the gang member got away. In La Linea (near Gibraltar) it is estimated that 3000 people earn their living solely from drugs.  A couple of weeks ago the police tried to intercept an incoming drug haul carried by a convoy of three fast cars. First and last cars  manned by people prepared to ram the police out of the way and go to jail ( and still be paid by drug lord). The end result was the police car impaled on its side on Armco. 

Don't know what the answer is other than more police.

[aaronjb]

Don't know what the answer is other than more police.

Bigger guns? </American>

[tigers_gonads]

Drugs = money
Money = power and influence.

De criminalise drug taking.
Offer every smackhead a one chance only program to get and stay clean. After that, bread and water for life with no Xbox   
Make dealing a capital offence for the dealers and there family's 

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

There's a complete generation lost sadly, recent event locally

An illegal scrambler bike is riding at up to 100 mph through a busy shopping area, knobhead loses control hits a wall without helmet,license,insurance and police attending the scene get harrassed ,abused and tyres let down etc by other local gobshites. Little scrote dies a few days later and apparently he was a diamond, would do anything for anyone, never hurt a fly and other 'dangle berries'.

One less problem in my opinion 

I have been following this London murders story and the high UK seaside towns drug death rates.

Some interesting Spanish stuff too. Drugs coming in from Africa are now overwhelming the police forces( 20,000 euros is the going rate for the police each to be somewhere else when a shipment comes in from Africa. A drug lord was recently hurt during arrest and taken to hospital under armed guard for treatment. 20 hooded armed gang members rescued him from the hospital. The other day police arrested a gang member with five kilos of drugs. The locals "stormed" the police and the gang member got away. In La Linea (near Gibraltar) it is estimated that 3000 people earn their living solely from drugs.  A couple of weeks ago the police tried to intercept an incoming drug haul carried by a convoy of three fast cars. First and last cars  manned by people prepared to ram the police out of the way and go to jail ( and still be paid by drug lord). The end result was the police car impaled on its side on Armco. 

Don't know what the answer is other than more police.

If only George Dixon still held the reins.

[STEMO]

Drugs = money
Money = power and influence.

De criminalise drug taking.
Offer every smackhead a one chance only program to get and stay clean. After that, bread and water for life with no Xbox   
Make dealing a capital offence for the dealers and there family's 

Smackheads wouldn't have to stay clean if it was legal. Surely they would get extra benefits to cover their habit? 

[TheBoy]

There is a very simple solution, as we know, but nobody in our current political circles with big enough balls.
 

[Sir Tigger KC]

Probably something to do with the £11bn annual illegal drug market that's up for grabs at the point of a knife/barrel of a gun. Solution: legalise it and tax the cr@p out of it. 

No good Jimmy as the black market network is already in place and they will simply undercut the legal drugs. 

[TheBoy]

Plus most smackheads turn to crime to get their next high, having blown their giros on fags and the lotto.

[Viral_Jim]

Probably something to do with the £11bn annual illegal drug market that's up for grabs at the point of a knife/barrel of a gun. Solution: legalise it and tax the cr@p out of it. 

No good Jimmy as the black market network is already in place and they will simply undercut the legal drugs. 

So much of the current cost is trying to get the stuff in, x failed attempts, lost product, bribing officials etc. Get BA to fly it over by the tonne and undercutting the crims will be easy. All your drug dealers suddenly become tax evaders - and have to answer to the tax man rather than the police - far scarier.

Plus, all the Guardian readers will be able to buy their sniff from Fair Trade, socially responsible  sources. It’ll fly off the shelves

[New POD]

50 murders so far this year in London, which is more than New York! 

So what the hell is going on? 

Are the cutbacks to police budgets bringing anarchy to our streets?

The gradual 'progressive' liberation of drugs laws causing turf wars between gangs and suppliers?

And what's to be done?    Crack a few heads? Kid Gloves? 

Knife and bullet scars held as a mark of respect.
Postcode wars between gangs.
Total lack of respect for life as a whole.
Arguments on social media turning to full blown conflict due to keyboard warriors and the "respect" thing.
Lack of parents been around to crack these little shits around the head when they were young.
Cee U Next Tuesday ish arseholes like Diane Abbot and Khan (the lord mayor of londistan) spouting shite every time they open there mouths 
Spineless police who are terrified of taking these scum on in case they get called "Racist" 
The media as a whole playing one group off against another because it makes good new / good ratings 

The cure ?

A complete blackout on the news and social media off all goings on in these areas.
Declare marshal law and send the forces in to shoot the little shits on sight.
Make all bodies disappear and if the parents have a problem, explain that its there fault for doing a parenting and and shoot them too 

Word will soon get around and the scum of our cities will learn to behave 

I can see you've been reading the Guardian, and gone soft in your old age. 

I have no solutions.

[Migv6 le Frog Fan]

Restore the death penalty for murder and drug dealing. See if it works. 

[BazaJT]

Obligatory protest march/rally has been held,meanwhile 5 more stabbings[not heard of any fatalities from these]have taken place.

[aaronjb]

Restore the death penalty for murder and drug dealing. See if it works. 

Seems to work for Singapore.

[Migv6 le Frog Fan]

Sure does. 

[deviator]

And what's to be done?

I was thinking we should hit them hard and hit them fast with a major leaflet campaign [/Red Dwarf]

The ultimate answer and I've said this before, shoot all parents at birth.

[Sir Tigger KC]

Restore the death penalty for murder and drug dealing. See if it works. 

Seems to work for Singapore.

Sure does. 

Ah yes but the Corbynistas and other assorted leftie libtards have already warned us against becoming a 'European Singapore' post BREXIT.    They know best of course. 

Back to London though, I won't be at all surprised if the one of the few to be charged and convicted of murder in relation to the London stabbings is the 78 year old pensioner who allegedly stabbed and killed an intruder in his home.   

[Migv6 le Frog Fan]

The man should be given the freedom of the city. If you break into someones home, you should be prepared for the possibility they might kill you. If you cant accept that possibility, don't burgle peoples houses. Simple really.

[deviator]

The man should be given the freedom of the city. If you break into someones home, you should be prepared for the possibility they might kill you. If you cant accept that possibility, don't burgle peoples houses. Simple really.

When the odds of getting caught by the police are 1 in 10, something needs to happen.

[tigers_gonads]

Restore the death penalty for murder and drug dealing. See if it works. 

Seems to work for Singapore.

Sure does. 

Ah yes but the Corbynistas and other assorted leftie libtards have already warned us against becoming a 'European Singapore' post BREXIT.    They know best of course. 

Back to London though, I won't be at all surprised if the one of the few to be charged and convicted of murder in relation to the London stabbings is the 78 year old pensioner who allegedly stabbed and killed an intruder in his home.   

Did he stab the tw&t in his own house OR in the street ?   can't be arsed to google

[tigers_gonads]

And while we are all sorting this country out 

Legalise and licence prostitution / brothels (make monthly medicals and condoms use law)  BUT make pimping a capital offence 

[aaronjb]

Restore the death penalty for murder and drug dealing. See if it works. 

Seems to work for Singapore.

Sure does. 

Ah yes but the Corbynistas and other assorted leftie libtards have already warned us against becoming a 'European Singapore' post BREXIT.    They know best of course. 

Back to London though, I won't be at all surprised if the one of the few to be charged and convicted of murder in relation to the London stabbings is the 78 year old pensioner who allegedly stabbed and killed an intruder in his home.   

Did he stab the tw&t in his own house OR in the street ?   can't be arsed to google

One of the men, who was reportedly armed with a screwdriver, died following a struggle inside the house. Mr Osborn-Brooks was arrested on suspicion of murder and is being held by police.

[Lazydocker]

Let’s get things a little clearer about this chap...He was arrested on SUSPICION of murder - as long as his account of events checks out he’ll be ok.

If someone stepped in front of your car and you killed them you could be arrested on SUSPICION of Murder too 😉

[Migv6 le Frog Fan]

True enough, I just hope he doesn't have to go through what Tony Martin did.

[BazaJT]

As far as I know the police have to make the arrest "on suspicion of" while investigations are underway/complete.This pensioner killed the burglar[allegedly a career criminal who targeted pensioners]in his home-kitchen I believe-while his wife was held in another room.If this is the truth of the matter then even if a trial ensues I reckon he'd get a not guilty verdict.Tony Martin was different as he shot someone in the back as he was running away and was outside the home,not saying he was wrong to do so,but it's different circumstances and I'd think comes under "reasonable force" or "fear for life".If you don't want to get killed or injured whilst burgling someone then don't do the burglary in the first place.

[BazaJT]

Apparently it's breaking news that police have said the pensioner faces" no further action"

[Migv6 le Frog Fan]

A welcome outbreak of common sense. 

[78bex]

The poor old boy must have been terrified, plod keeping him away from his missus is a crime in itself 
I think he now needs to be recognised & rewarded for his bravery by the plod involved.

[Rods2]

In the latest killing in London, passers by flagged down a police car to report the crime. If it happened in Barnsley, there would be nothing but a skeleton by the time a police car came by.

Do their Police cars work after a local Scouser nicked their alloy wheels so they are now all sitting on piles of bricks?

[Rods2]

There's a complete generation lost sadly, recent event locally

An illegal scrambler bike is riding at up to 100 mph through a busy shopping area, knobhead loses control hits a wall without helmet,license,insurance and police attending the scene get harrassed ,abused and tyres let down etc by other local gobshites. Little scrote dies a few days later and apparently he was a diamond, would do anything for anyone, never hurt a fly and other 'dangle berries'.

One less problem in my opinion 

Hit the wall of the Farmers Arms, just up the road from where mum lives.

Was the wall okay ? 

No, the offending part is in a cell charged with murder, next door to the 78yo pensioner likewise charged for protecting his property and dementia suffering wife when attacked by a pair of serial burglars who target vulnerable pensioners, broke in and after a struggle the pensioner administered instant justice.

[Rods2]

Fight fire with fire I say, or just castrate the lot of them and stick them on a island somewhere to die off quietly. 

We tried that once already.. and look at Australia now!

Yep, they still haven't learn't, look what they do to cricket balls.

[henryd]

As far as I know the police have to make the arrest "on suspicion of" while investigations are underway/complete.This pensioner killed the burglar[allegedly a career criminal who targeted pensioners]in his home-kitchen I believe-while his wife was held in another room.If this is the truth of the matter then even if a trial ensues I reckon he'd get a not guilty verdict.Tony Martin was different as he shot someone in the back as he was running away and was outside the home,not saying he was wrong to do so,but it's different circumstances and I'd think comes under "reasonable force" or "fear for life".If you don't want to get killed or injured whilst burgling someone then don't do the burglary in the first place.

Tony Martin also had a shotgun illegally held without a SGC,didn't help his cause

[BazaJT]

According to the news 300 extra police are to be deployed into the areas of greater trouble.Where did they find these "extra" police?Is there an extra police tree growing next to the magic money tree?

[redelitev6]

According to the news 300 extra police are to be deployed into the areas of greater trouble.Where did they find these "extra" police?Is there an extra police tree growing next to the magic money tree?

More than likely Police bussed in from home counties forces at considerable expense to someone, i.e. the taxpayer   

[Mister Rog]

According to the news 300 extra police are to be deployed into the areas of greater trouble.Where did they find these "extra" police?Is there an extra police tree growing next to the magic money tree?

More than likely Police bussed in from home counties forces at considerable expense to someone, i.e. the taxpayer 

Publicity and PR will dictate that they need to be seen to be doing something. Fact is that anyone with half a neurone of a brain will realize that the number of police will make little difference. This is about prevailing culture. I lived in Norh London, and SWBMO worked in a huge secondary school. There is a segment of society that is ego based. Personal offence is very easilly taken, often trivially. A mere raise of an eyebrow or lip movement can be percieved as "dissing" (disrespecting), just walking along the wrong street is "invasion", the slightest comment is an insult. Wecome to the world of black gang culture in London. I really for sorry for those that have no choice but to be part of it.

 

[Doctor Gollum]

Don't forget that all white Police are either corrupt or racist and all non white Police are either corrupt or racist...

And as for the general public, we'll they're just victims... or scum...

Depending of course on who you ask... 

[Mister Rog]

This really isn't news, but if somebody white said it there would be big trouble. Some years ago I was at a music festival and 50 Cent was performing. His set opened with gun shots and a load of other gun related effects.

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/uk/exlondon-gang-member-blames-hiphop-music-for-spate-of-violent-crime-a3810451.html