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[robson]

My door will not open the locking system is working ok as is the key method of locking.I feel sure that it is a rod to the lock that has become detached .the outside handle and the inside handle do not release the lock. Any ideas before smashing the door card to access the lock etc..All help gratefully received.

[Doctor Gollum]

Remove the lock from the passenger door and examine and play with it.

You'll figure out exactly what makes it open without using any of the handles.

Then fabricate a tool based on your discovery and apply it to the driver's door mechanism.

Oh, and order a replacement mechanism for the driver's door along with a new rubber for the top edge of the door as I will almost guarantee that yours is split for about two inches from the rear edge

I know exactly what you need to do, but cannot post it for legal reasons. Alternatively bring the car to me.

[robson]

Thanks Doctor for the reply where are you?

[Doctor Gollum]

West Sussex, about 10 miles from Horsham

[robson]

Thanks again not too far away I am in Ashford Kent . It sounds as though you could save my door card. I will see how I get on and will ask for your help if I am not successful in solving my problem.
Ron

[robson]

Me again Doc do you know if a locking unit for a 2.2 2002 drivers side is the same as the 2003 2.6?

[dave the builder]

Me again Doc do you know if a locking unit for a 2.2 2002 drivers side is the same as the 2003 2.6?

I fitted an entire door from a 2.2 sport to my 2.6 v6 53 plate CDXi ,all good 

[Doctor Gollum]

Me again Doc do you know if a locking unit for a 2.2 2002 drivers side is the same as the 2003 2.6?

Identical across the range

[robson]

Thanks  Doc I am preparing for all eventualities   Rear door and passenger side locks are plentiful but not drivers door side.

[Andy B]

Thanks  Doc I am preparing for all eventualities   Rear door and passenger side locks are plentiful but not drivers door side.

aren't both front door locks the same? Like wise both rears the same? 

[Nick W]

Thanks  Doc I am preparing for all eventualities   Rear door and passenger side locks are plentiful but not drivers door side.

aren't both front door locks the same? Like wise both rears the same? 

They're handed.

[Andy B]

Thanks  Doc I am preparing for all eventualities   Rear door and passenger side locks are plentiful but not drivers door side.

aren't both front door locks the same? Like wise both rears the same? 

They're handed.

There's something in the door that's the same for both front doors .... 

[omegod]

Only success I have had in this situation is window down, sacrifice door card and massively douse the mechanism in WD and work the mechanism manually with a long screwdriver, said lock is still working years later 

[Nick W]

There's something in the door that's the same for both front doors .... 

The plastic sheet that's supposed to keep moisture away from the door card? 

[robson]

Thanks omegod I am trying to save doorcard.You say window down why is that.Did you manage to find a replacement door card.I have found 3 on line but guess which one is missing.

[omegod]

You have to force it away from the door to get access to the mechanism, I break Omegas and have a drivers door card if needed

[Andy B]

There's something in the door that's the same for both front doors .... 

The plastic sheet that's supposed to keep moisture away from the door card? 

That'll be it ..... 

[Doctor Gollum]

I have one here that can be used to make good, but would prefer to simply pop the door.

[robson]

Fully agree Doc.We must be able to get that door open watch this space.

[robson]

Thanks omegod and doc good to know there are cards if I need one

[robson]

I believe that the two front door locks are completely different not only handed but different structure.

[dave the builder]

the locking motor is common n/s and o/s front 

[Doctor Gollum]

the locking motor is common n/s and o/s front 

The locking motor is...

The problem here is with the actual door latch/lock mechanism. These are obviously unique to the door in which they are fitted

[robson]

Took my car into my local workshop/garage today their  diagnosis was that the lock was deadlocked and would not free,as I thought, The only solution is replace the lock which of course means butchery to the doorcard.The locks are no longer available from GM so the only answer is a used lock. This is the same as an earlier post in 2011 where part of the deadlock separated from the lock.If anybody has a lock drivers side and a doorcard they don't need please let me know . I assume that a deadlock cannot be sidelined in any way to enable the door to be opened

[Doctor Gollum]

They are, respectfully, wrong.

Bring it over on Thursday

[Doctor Gollum]

They are, respectfully, wrong.

Bring it over on Thursday

To elaborate, if dead locked, the lock button can be pulled up to unlock the door. This requires effort, but uses little more than mole grips

[robson]

Hello Doc Thanks for the post.I did try lifting the stalk with mole grips yesterday and then the mechanic tried it today without any joy. If I try to open the door with the key the stalk comes up and if I turn the key back the stalk  lifts a little more I assumed that this was the deadlock releasing.This is very much like an old post when something had broken on the deadlock mechanism. When you operate the key and the door handle at the same time you can feel a slight click as if something is trying to operate but failing.I have faith in the garage but they have not had the same experience with omegas as people on the forum and I am a little lost on knowing which way to turn.
Ron

[Doctor Gollum]

As risk of repeating myself, bring it over on Thursday or Friday with a replacement lock mech... 

[robson]

hello Doc I havnt got the lock yet I will keep you posted

[Doctor Gollum]

No problem. Might be able to rustle one up if no joy

[robson]

Hello Doc thanks for all the help
Ron

[robson]

Doc PM sent

[terry paget]

Two weeks ago my daughter, living in London, had the same problem on her 03 ex-plod Omega. The RAC got in somehow, and advised her not to lock it again. She'll be home for Christmas, and will require me to sort it out. I imagine a change of driver's door lock unit will rectify it - is that correct?

There is clearly a trade trick known to the RAC and DG. We wonder what it is. I heard tell of a policeman, summoned to the aid of a fair lady with a locked car, said 'Look away ma'am', then dealt the car an almighty blow and the door popped open. Where he administered the blow she did not see.

[Kevin Wood]

Sounds like that could be either the door lock mechanism or the central locking motor.

[Doctor Gollum]

Doc PM sent

And replied

[Doctor Gollum]

Sounds like that could be either the door lock mechanism or the central locking motor.

Door not opening with the exterior handle when unlocked either manually or by remote can only be the mechanism itself. CL motor(solenoid) can be moved by hand with minimal effort, so unless it's been filled with araldite, won't be the problem

[terry paget]

Sounds like that could be either the door lock mechanism or the central locking motor.

Door not opening with the exterior handle when unlocked either manually or by remote can only be the mechanism itself. CL motor(solenoid) can be moved by hand with minimal effort, so unless it's been filled with araldite, won't be the problem

This is an 03 car, only Omega I hve ever owned that cannot easily be opened with the key.. I know one should be able to open it turning the key with force, but I never managed it, and I tried. I will report back when the car is here.

[robson]

Omegod PM sent

[robson]

Jon pm sent
Ron

[omegod]

Replied 

[terry paget]

Is the fault now rectified? If so, may we know how it was done, without revealing any secrets?

[Doctor Gollum]

Is the fault now rectified? If so, may we know how it was done, without revealing any secrets?

Not yet. No.

In that order.

[terry paget]

Sounds like that could be either the door lock mechanism or the central locking motor.

Door not opening with the exterior handle when unlocked either manually or by remote can only be the mechanism itself. CL motor(solenoid) can be moved by hand with minimal effort, so unless it's been filled with araldite, won't be the problem

The car is still in daily use, so presumably can be opened normally using the inside and outside handles. I suppose it could still be the deadlocking mechanism or the central locking motor that prevents reopening.

[Doctor Gollum]

Sounds like that could be either the door lock mechanism or the central locking motor.

Door not opening with the exterior handle when unlocked either manually or by remote can only be the mechanism itself. CL motor(solenoid) can be moved by hand with minimal effort, so unless it's been filled with araldite, won't be the problem

The car is still in daily use, so presumably can be opened normally using the inside and outside handles. I suppose it could still be the deadlocking mechanism or the central locking motor that prevents reopening.

You presume wrong.

Door is latched closed, and as I understand it, the lock works as it should. The latch release has jammed. Apparently the locksmith who replaced the ignition barrel was unable to open the door. All that said, I haven't seen the car, but clear instruction was given as to what needs to be done in order to open it, so not clear as to why it isn't

[terry paget]

Sounds like that could be either the door lock mechanism or the central locking motor.

Door not opening with the exterior handle when unlocked either manually or by remote can only be the mechanism itself. CL motor(solenoid) can be moved by hand with minimal effort, so unless it's been filled with araldite, won't be the problem

The car is still in daily use, so presumably can be opened normally using the inside and outside handles. I suppose it could still be the deadlocking mechanism or the central locking motor that prevents reopening.

You presume wrong.

Door is latched closed, and as I understand it, the lock works as it should. The latch release has jammed. Apparently the locksmith who replaced the ignition barrel was unable to open the door. All that said, I haven't seen the car, but clear instruction was given as to what needs to be done in order to open it, so not clear as to why it isn't

I think we are talking about different cars, Doc. I presumed Kevin's post referred to my post 7 minutes earlier, could be wrong. I presume my daughter is still driving around in her insecure Omega, could be wrong.
I imagine Robson drove his car around with driver's door locked, gaining access via front passenger's door, until finally stopped by the ignition barrel seizure.

[Doctor Gollum]

Your daughter's car most likely has a failed lock motor. This thread is about Robsons car and I posted accordingly

[robson]

I have fixed my problem It was a failed locking mechanism. I managed to get to the lock with the door still closed.It is possible to do this without breaking the door card.

[Doctor Gollum]

Glad it's finally sorted 

[robson]

I would still be in problems if it wasn't for your help

[terry paget]

I have fixed my problem It was a failed locking mechanism. I managed to get to the lock with the door still closed.It is possible to do this without breaking the door card.

Congratulations on your success. Can you tell us how it was done?

[Doctor Gollum]

No.

That's to say that those who cherish their Omegas and would like to keep them secure probably wouldn't appreciate public discussions on the subject.

 

[omegod]

I have fixed my problem It was a failed locking mechanism. I managed to get to the lock with the door still closed.It is possible to do this without breaking the door card.

Well done Ron and glad it's sorted, don't keep us in suspenders as to the magic technique