Topic: Project B - 1995 3.0 Elite Estate (56k warning) (Read 9845 times)

tunnie · « **on:** 17 August 2006, 18:26:13 »

1995 3.0 Elite Estate Manual - Black Leather Interior

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Well I got it, paid £299 on 'Buy It Now' off fleabay... was expecting a shed.... and welll its kind of a shed

Good Points:

When I arrived to pick it up it had 30 Litres of fuel in it!

3.0 V6 Manual, according to the trip computer i averaged 37.5 mpg on the way back!!

Someone has installed projector headlights on it

All 4 tyres have plenty of tread, but the alloys have gone walkies

Cruise control works

Air-con acually blows ice cold!!

MID in better condition that the '98 Reflection, hardly any dead pixels

Leather in very good condition, just needs a clean, as does the floor carpet.

Boot carpet bit diry but no rips. - good clean should fix that

Bodywork is in better nick than project A, only 1 main scratch. It has less rust than the 1998 Reflection!!!

Most of the interior bits intact are in good condition, just dirty

It has the 'rare' window de-mists on the back door cards.

Exhaust in good conidtion

Bad Points

It was an auto but now a manual, after starting at some services 'Auto Geabox' appeared on the MID :-?

Millage says 66k, but i think its more like 166k!! - Not sure what to do about that sell as 66k? :-/

Heavy 'Tapping noise' under acceleration. It sat at 75mph easily, still feels powerfull wanted to give more. - Can't hear it on idle, mainly between 1.5 - 4k... but as i said motorway cruising its fine.

Sunroof not working (you can hear it clunk - so its not a reprogram)

A lot of electrics are not working:

Both front seats, do not move at all with any of the button pressed. Seams odd both are completey dead, but i checked all the fuses all fine (remove and inspected by eye :-/

Windscreen washer jets not working, but 1 wire seams to have been cut

No Radio, and front speakers missing - Some god awful wiring on the loom its a right mess...

Rear boot lock a tad 'sticky'

Strip of plastic between the front light and bumper on the drivers side is the wrong colour.

Your welcome to see it Jame, i'd like your opinion on the tappets....

Markie · « **Reply #1 on:** 17 August 2006, 18:33:01 »

So whats the plan......timescales and expected sale price....looks like potential is there..

TheBoy · « **Reply #2 on:** 17 August 2006, 18:35:51 »

Bodywork looks tidy, as you say, a bit of a clean inside. Get some speakers from scrappy, and a stereo, should sell for reasonable profit

tunnie · « **Reply #3 on:** 17 August 2006, 18:36:10 »

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So whats the plan......timescales and expected sale price....looks like potential is there..

There is not the rush on the sale on this one as it's taxed & Mot'ed until december.

Things to do:

Radio - Need as cheap one, there were Vx ones at my scrappy, but with no codes :-/

Speaker Grills - They look differnt to the Reflection ones, its not a bose system, but the front grills look differnt somehow

Polish it up, and try and get the eletrics working.

Try and get if fixed and sold within 14 days like the last one....

Markie · « **Reply #4 on:** 17 August 2006, 18:41:16 »

Yep the key is quick turnaround - i hate it when work commands i cant do car work during the week then i get dragged to shops on a saturday and forced to mow the laws on a sunday!!

Looking forward to seeing the work in progress mate - oh and dont get married or the 14 days turns into 14 week turnaround

TheBoy · « **Reply #5 on:** 17 August 2006, 18:43:07 »

Tunnie's lucky, being a lazy student - he gets 50 weeks off a year

Markie · « **Reply #6 on:** 17 August 2006, 18:44:55 »

And tunnie you can tell your only on project 2 - look at those clean fingers in the picture

pulling your leg matey

tunnie · « **Reply #7 on:** 17 August 2006, 18:49:59 »

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And tunnie you can tell your only on project 2 - look at those clean fingers in the picture

pulling your leg matey

Bet you wish you were a student again Jamie.... my regualr wake up time is around 11 am!

Get married pah!? I have trouble finding a girlfriend!

Jay w · « **Reply #8 on:** 17 August 2006, 18:53:04 »

i have a vauxhall radio cassette player from a Zafira, it will go straight in and will use the MID...

I will see if the code is with it

tunnie · « **Reply #9 on:** 17 August 2006, 18:54:53 »

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i have a vauxhall radio cassette player from a Zafira, it will go straight in and will use the MID...

I will see if the code is with it

Cheers m8... be great if it works. Just got to figure out the god awful loom wiring in there at the moment.

Its also got some kind of micky mouse alarm system with sensors on the back windows and wires trailing under the boot carpet

RonaldMcBurger · « **Reply #10 on:** 17 August 2006, 18:56:27 »

Plan A: Fix it up a bit and sell it on. If you bought it with 66k and the MoT's match, then advertise it the same. If anyone asks if it is genuine, you were told so but cannot guarantee it obviously. Tapping? Ignore. Just clean it up a bit and sell it as is. Don't mess about with the radio and stuff mate, makes no difference to the price. Change the boot carpet, easy job and about £10. Straight into AutoTrader for £595 and double bubble this week.

Plan B: Spend a fair bit doing all the 'jobs'. Even put an autobox back in cheply enough if you wanted to. Radio, speakers, sort the seats out. Loads of WD40 on the motor ends then an allen key to start the,moving again. Sunroof, leave it!

Plan C: Strip it. Gearbox, seats, computer, radiatorts, lights, panels then get towed away.

Plan D: Sell it on exactly as it is on Ebay. Put a BIN price of £495 and make a tidy bob or two.

Plan E: Sell it to me for £30.

tunnie · « **Reply #11 on:** 17 August 2006, 19:03:52 »

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Plan A: Fix it up a bit and sell it on. If you bought it with 66k and the MoT's match, then advertise it the same. If anyone asks if it is genuine, you were told so but cannot guarantee it obviously. Tapping? Ignore. Just clean it up a bit and sell it as is. Don't mess about with the radio and stuff mate, makes no difference to the price. Change the boot carpet, easy job and about £10. Straight into AutoTrader for £595 and double bubble this week.

Plan B: Spend a fair bit doing all the 'jobs'. Even put an autobox back in cheply enough if you wanted to. Radio, speakers, sort the seats out. Loads of WD40 on the motor ends then an allen key to start the,moving again. Sunroof, leave it!

Plan C: Strip it. Gearbox, seats, computer, radiatorts, lights, panels then get towed away.

Plan D: Sell it on exactly as it is on Ebay. Put a BIN price of £495 and make a tidy bob or two.

Plan E: Sell it to me for £30.

Humm i don't think i will be doing plan E

, it had £30 of fuel it in when i picked it up!!, well chuffed. Only cost me £23 in the train fare + £2.50 car parking to collect it.

You seriously think it will got for say £500 even with the radio in bits??

Boot carpet is in good nick, good clean with the Dyson and it should look good again.

I have to wait for the Log Book to arrive, so might as well fix it up best i can until then. Have to investigate the seats, as that will really let down a sale. Can't see any allen key sockets must have another good look. The seats don't even make any noises... just silence?

As for the tapping, i guess its just age. My dads old pre-faclift 2.0 GLS did it after 100K plus...

TheBoy · « **Reply #12 on:** 17 August 2006, 19:09:47 »

Sometimes a little frsh oil will make the tappets quieter.

tunnie · « **Reply #13 on:** 17 August 2006, 19:13:01 »

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Sometimes a little frsh oil will make the tappets quieter.

The oil looked in good condition acually... good chance to practice and oil change i now have one of those things to remove oil filters.

I could pop it around today?, still insured to drive it today and tomorrow morning

TheBoy · « **Reply #14 on:** 17 August 2006, 19:14:16 »

Alas, busy tonight

- by the time I've cooked and eaten dinner, it will be getting dark...

tunnie · « **Reply #15 on:** 17 August 2006, 19:23:56 »

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Alas, busy tonight - by the time I've cooked and eaten dinner, it will be getting dark...

ah never mind, can always bring it around another day...

mr des · « **Reply #16 on:** 17 August 2006, 20:20:02 »

wynns hydraulic valve lifter treatment is the lad for noisey tappets unless its piston slap

, if you get the reg no and original garage that sold the car and you will be able to get the radio code or a cheap radio off ebay in the hole sold as not working if the wiring is too much hastle

TheOutcast · « **Reply #17 on:** 18 August 2006, 09:15:53 »

It doen't appear to have Climate Control. Is that right for an Elite? :-?

TheBoy · « **Reply #18 on:** 18 August 2006, 10:25:24 »

Early Elites didn't have climate, so thats fine

Definately an Elite - the rear window demisters were only ever found on that model.

TheOutcast · « **Reply #19 on:** 18 August 2006, 10:37:14 »

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Early Elites didn't have climate, so thats fine

Definitely an Elite - the rear window demisters were only ever found on that model.

Sorry, I thought that that elites had always had Climate Control, or at least Air Con.

TheBoy · « **Reply #20 on:** 18 August 2006, 10:39:11 »

It will have a/c...

x25xe · « **Reply #21 on:** 18 August 2006, 12:36:58 »

Well good luck with project B tunnie.

That is good economy - my 2.5 does not do that admitted mine is an auto but even so.

Anyway, I went to my local yard last week and there was an M reg elite saloon in there. Although the interior is cream leather, it may yield some useful parts. If you want anything give me a shout. It was complete (apart from audio and Cd changer) when I was there but that may have changed now of course.

tunnie · « **Reply #22 on:** 18 August 2006, 13:39:48 »

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Well good luck with project B tunnie.

That is good economy - my 2.5 does not do that admitted mine is an auto but even so.

Anyway, I went to my local yard last week and there was an M reg elite saloon in there. Although the interior is cream leather, it may yield some useful parts. If you want anything give me a shout. It was complete (apart from audio and Cd changer) when I was there but that may have changed now of course.

Cheers m8, i have given it a damn good clean today, and got most of the bits from the scrappy down the road.

It has A/C and it acually blows ice cold!! - glad of that comming back yesterday it was quite warm

Markie · « **Reply #23 on:** 18 August 2006, 14:13:33 »

Jeeze i wish i had your time id love to be in my garge right now instead of buried behind spreadsheets and weekly reporting and lunch at desk

glad to hear its taking shape tunnie

Taxi_Driver · « **Reply #24 on:** 18 August 2006, 14:27:47 »

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Get married pah!? I have trouble finding a girlfriend!

Not suprised if you spend most of the day in bed and then the rest of it in scrappies

Markie · « **Reply #25 on:** 18 August 2006, 14:32:59 »

miaooooow

Anyway you never know who or what you may find in a scrap yard

tunnie · « **Reply #26 on:** 18 August 2006, 17:37:48 »

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miaooooow

Anyway you never know who or what you may find in a scrap yard

Funnily enough, not many good looking girls down the scrappy. In fact i have yet to see a women down there!!

Will post pics later of it after a good clean...

RonaldMcBurger · « **Reply #27 on:** 18 August 2006, 17:55:01 »

Good clean? What the woman?

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tunnie · « **Reply #28 on:** 18 August 2006, 18:28:51 »

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Good clean? What the woman??

Wish there was some nice women to clean down there 8-) But alas no, just cleaning ProB

TheBoy · « **Reply #29 on:** 18 August 2006, 19:52:33 »

Your mum has been to that scrappy with you, and I'm sure she is a very nice woman. After all, she puts up with you for the long summer break

Taxi_Driver · « **Reply #30 on:** 18 August 2006, 20:41:29 »

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Your mum has been to that scrappy with you, and I'm sure she is a very nice woman. After all, she puts up with you for the long summer break

Agreed Jaime.......but i doubt Tunnie wants to clean her

tunnie · « **Reply #31 on:** 18 August 2006, 21:03:14 »

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Your mum has been to that scrappy with you, and I'm sure she is a very nice woman. After all, she puts up with you for the long summer break

Agreed Jaime.......but i doubt Tunnie wants to clean her

She puts up with a lot, all the mud i bring in... and shouting and cursing when working on the car...

My dad just got back from the Isle of Man, he has a big project up there at the moment. Spends all week there, comes back on weekends.

He left on Monday, I had the Reflection in the garage, in the time he's be away i've sold it and bought another!!

He also suggested while we have an estate, clear out all the rubbish in the loft!! - Got me a 300 quid bin lorry with leather seats 8-)

TheBoy · « **Reply #32 on:** 19 August 2006, 17:35:06 »

Well, I've seen the car, and its not too bad.

We've had a little tinker today and resolved some problems.

Remaining bad points:
EML on - air intake temp sensor reckons its at 350F. We'll try and get one from scrappy.
Washer pump seized, again replacement required from scrappy.
Leccy seats - nothing worked, we've now got most passenger side working (front height is still seized), drivers we haven't touched yet.
Leccy mirrors - may be related to drivers set.
Tyres are borderline.
Stereo not working (loom needs reconnecting, looks like its had an aftermarket poorly fitted).
Unlikely the mileage is correct.
Noise from passenger side bank exhaust - it may be just the headshield rattling
Bodywork is reasonably tidy (few rust patches), currently has projector headlights (recommend changing for cheap headlights, and flogging projectors).

All in all, not a bad car at all - the sort I would happily have as a project and tinker with it until everything works.

TheBoy · « **Reply #33 on:** 19 August 2006, 17:36:36 »

Oh, and the sunroof doesn't work at all - sounds like its jammed. The sunroof dial illumination doesn't work any more, coz I just swapped the bulb with the blown one in mine

- cheers tunnie!

Markie · « **Reply #34 on:** 19 August 2006, 17:37:31 »

Ha Ha you crafty so and so - is that your "call out fee"

TheBoy · « **Reply #35 on:** 19 August 2006, 17:38:43 »

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Ha Ha you crafty so and so - is that your "call out fee"

LOL, I'm cheap

TheBoy · « **Reply #36 on:** 19 August 2006, 17:42:21 »

Twas my fee for reprogramming MID telling it it no longer had an auto gearbox to lose the message on the MID.

I was surprised how many systems on board this 1995 car that the Tech2 (1997 onwards) would talk to. It was only the ATWS (IR type fitted), Sunroof, and Leccy seats (though they may not be getting power) that it would not talk to...

Markie · « **Reply #37 on:** 19 August 2006, 17:43:18 »

wont a strip and lub fix the `roof?

usually does ....oor is it a new motor job?

tunnie · « **Reply #38 on:** 19 August 2006, 17:45:39 »

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Twas my fee for reprogramming MID telling it it no longer had an auto gearbox to lose the message on the MID.

I was surprised how many systems on board this 1995 car that the Tech2 (1997 onwards) would talk to. It was only the ATWS (IR type fitted), Sunroof, and Leccy seats (though they may not be getting power) that it would not talk to...

Bargin!

1 little L.E.D for about 4 hours labour!

Thanks for all your work Jamie, can't be bothered with the drivers seat now... i'll sort it tommorow after going to the scrappy (as long as it stays dry!)

TheBoy · « **Reply #39 on:** 19 August 2006, 17:46:50 »

I reckon it probably would. But it was raining (hence not fixing drivers seat). My gut feeling is that its the motor/gear mechanism thats seized, rather than the roof, but until removed, can't say.

Personally, I'd have it apart and fix the problem, but I know tunnie is keen to sell on quickly...

Markie · « **Reply #40 on:** 19 August 2006, 17:47:35 »

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Twas my fee for reprogramming MID telling it it no longer had an auto gearbox to lose the message on the MID.

I was surprised how many systems on board this 1995 car that the Tech2 (1997 onwards) would talk to. It was only the ATWS (IR type fitted), Sunroof, and Leccy seats (though they may not be getting power) that it would not talk to...

Bargin!

1 little L.E.D for about 4 hours labour!

Thanks for all your work Jamie, can't be bothered with the drivers seat now... i'll sort it tommorow after going to the scrappy (as long as it stays dry!)

tunnie you lightweight get up early get out in the rain get covered in oil and fix the motor

sell sell sell

sorry that was meant for my staff here - underperforming so and so`s

tunnie · « **Reply #41 on:** 19 August 2006, 18:08:50 »

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I reckon it probably would. But it was raining (hence not fixing drivers seat). My gut feeling is that its the motor/gear mechanism thats seized, rather than the roof, but until removed, can't say.

Personally, I'd have it apart and fix the problem, but I know tunnie is keen to sell on quickly...

There is no rush really due to Tax & MOT... and we will use it to haul rubbish to the Tip!!

Think i might take it apart during the week....

tunnie · « **Reply #42 on:** 19 August 2006, 18:12:36 »

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Twas my fee for reprogramming MID telling it it no longer had an auto gearbox to lose the message on the MID.

I was surprised how many systems on board this 1995 car that the Tech2 (1997 onwards) would talk to. It was only the ATWS (IR type fitted), Sunroof, and Leccy seats (though they may not be getting power) that it would not talk to...

Bargin!

1 little L.E.D for about 4 hours labour!

Thanks for all your work Jamie, can't be bothered with the drivers seat now... i'll sort it tommorow after going to the scrappy (as long as it stays dry!)

tunnie you lightweight get up early get out in the rain get covered in oil and fix the motor

sell sell sell

sorry that was meant for my staff here - underperforming so and so`s

I intend too, but we will have some uses for it first as above..

Cheapist working estate is going for £595 on a national search on Autotrader & thats a 2.0 Select!!!

JamesV6CDX · « **Reply #43 on:** 20 August 2006, 03:13:26 »

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Get married pah!? I have trouble finding a girlfriend!

I'll happily trade in my girlfriend for your Miggy Elite?

tunnie · « **Reply #44 on:** 20 August 2006, 11:29:19 »

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Get married pah!? I have trouble finding a girlfriend!

I'll happily trade in my girlfriend for your Miggy Elite?

Tell me more:

How old?
Any paper work?
Any Recent Maintaince done?

& whats her millage?

JamesV6CDX · « **Reply #45 on:** 24 August 2006, 21:35:55 »

Which one?!

One's 18, low mileage and needs running in a bit.
One's 25, meduim mileage, cracking bodywork, good trim and, er, fantastic ride
One's 40, but the best cared for - Many previous owners - high recent mileage mostly clocked up by me - will keep going forever.

Make your choice...

Del Boy · « **Reply #46 on:** 24 August 2006, 21:39:43 »

Very nice looks clean but it could do with some alloys

tunnie · « **Reply #47 on:** 24 August 2006, 21:57:43 »

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Which one?!

One's 18, low mileage and needs running in a bit.
One's 25, meduim mileage, cracking bodywork, good trim and, er, fantastic ride
One's 40, but the best cared for - Many previous owners - high recent mileage mostly clocked up by me - will keep going forever.

Make your choice...

Can I get a test ride er i mean drive on 25?

LSG1 - It should have alloys but i have the feeling he swapped them for a full set of brand new tyres some time ago

Should't really affect its sale value...

TheBoy · « **Reply #48 on:** 31 August 2006, 12:53:05 »

Tunnie, we need to reprogram MID on this Elite. I put wrong config on - sorry

It needs code index 049...

tunnie · « **Reply #49 on:** 31 August 2006, 12:55:12 »

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Tunnie, we need to reprogram MID on this Elite. I put wrong config on - sorry

It needs code index 049...

Ah ok, no problem.... be a good chance to fix the drivers side leccy seat

Big Rod · « **Reply #50 on:** 31 August 2006, 13:27:23 »

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sorry that was meant for my staff here - underperforming so and so`s

Just out of interest Mark, where do you work?

TheBoy · « **Reply #51 on:** 31 August 2006, 13:33:18 »

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Tunnie, we need to reprogram MID on this Elite. I put wrong config on - sorry

It needs code index 049...

Ah ok, no problem.... be a good chance to fix the drivers side leccy seat

Should be able to have a look on Sat (after we've bled TB1). May have to take seat out...

tunnie · « **Reply #52 on:** 31 August 2006, 13:34:45 »

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Tunnie, we need to reprogram MID on this Elite. I put wrong config on - sorry

It needs code index 049...

Ah ok, no problem.... be a good chance to fix the drivers side leccy seat
Should be able to have a look on Sat (after we've bled TB1). May have to take seat out...

Should't be too bad, no side airbags to worry about just the pretensiors

TheBoy · « **Reply #53 on:** 31 August 2006, 13:35:54 »

shit happens if they go off...

tunnie · « **Reply #54 on:** 31 August 2006, 13:37:17 »

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shit happens if they go off...

doubt anyone would notice even if they do....

TheBoy · « **Reply #55 on:** 31 August 2006, 13:39:07 »

i reckon you'd leave a pantie deposit if it went off whilst you were lifting seat out

tunnie · « **Reply #56 on:** 31 August 2006, 13:42:51 »

Bet they make a large bang!

TheBoy · « **Reply #57 on:** 31 August 2006, 13:45:27 »

Mrs TheBoy's brother tests car safety and durability etc for a living. That means crashing cars and setting off airbags all the time. Now thats my idea of a job - non stop destruction

tunnie · « **Reply #58 on:** 31 August 2006, 14:03:44 »

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Mrs TheBoy's brother tests car safety and durability etc for a living. That means crashing cars and setting off airbags all the time. Now thats my idea of a job - non stop destruction

But don't you already do that with tools?

nixoro · « **Reply #59 on:** 31 August 2006, 14:14:46 »

I was told when I fitted my seats that if goes off it could take your head off, whether there is any truth to it i dont know but I took the necessary precautions anyway.

Good Luck with the seat removal I had fun with one of the seat floor bolts and in the end needed to drill it out as the head of the bolt didn't like the star bit I was using.

Jim · « **Reply #60 on:** 31 August 2006, 19:54:48 »

Looks like you got a bargain there

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