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Mot and electronic handbrakes
« on: 19 August 2019, 16:18:37 »

Just idle curiosity .

In the UK how does the MOT tester do the handbrake test on the rollers? Does being auto ( dsg) make a difference to how the tester does it.?

In Spain the vehicle owner does most of the test in the driving seat. If you have any doubts over what to do the tester can do it for you.

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Re: Mot and electronic handbrakes
« Reply #1 on: 19 August 2019, 17:38:42 »

same as normal most cars have a bedding in cycle that starts before you do the parking brake test :y
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Re: Mot and electronic handbrakes
« Reply #2 on: 19 August 2019, 17:55:25 »

So you just lift the button whilst the rear wheels are spinning on the rollers?
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Re: Mot and electronic handbrakes
« Reply #3 on: 19 August 2019, 17:59:32 »

Why would an electronic one make any difference to a manual one?  :-\
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Re: Mot and electronic handbrakes
« Reply #4 on: 19 August 2019, 18:00:01 »

IE, does it matter a motor pulls a cable rather than an organic hooligan?
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Re: Mot and electronic handbrakes
« Reply #5 on: 19 August 2019, 18:50:17 »

It was just idle curiosity. I have never used the manual button when vehicle moving any more that I would under normal circumstances with a traditional handbrake. Just mechanical sympathy. Plus without trying it , it might just  lock the rear wheels.
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Re: Mot and electronic handbrakes
« Reply #6 on: 19 August 2019, 19:32:22 »

Why would an electronic one make any difference to a manual one?  :-\

because if I set off with my electric 'hand' brake on, it'll automatically release  ;) Doesn't yours?  ::)
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Re: Mot and electronic handbrakes
« Reply #7 on: 19 August 2019, 19:35:17 »

Why would an electronic one make any difference to a manual one?  :-\

because if I set off with my electric 'hand' brake on, it'll automatically release  ;) Doesn't yours?  ::)

But if you're moving, it'll slam the brakes on (probably).

I know this, because I tried it in the Skoda .. just to see if the manual was right ;D
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Re: Mot and electronic handbrakes
« Reply #8 on: 19 August 2019, 19:39:34 »

Why would an electronic one make any difference to a manual one?  :-\

because if I set off with my electric 'hand' brake on, it'll automatically release  ;) Doesn't yours?  ::)

But if you're moving, it'll slam the brakes on (probably).

I know this, because I tried it in the Skoda .. just to see if the manual was right ;D
From memory, it applies is steadily and gradually rather than instantly.

If it did simply slam on, then it would be utterly useless as an emergency brake as the consequence of doing so at speed could be fatally catastrophic  :-\
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Re: Mot and electronic handbrakes
« Reply #9 on: 19 August 2019, 19:41:54 »

Why would an electronic one make any difference to a manual one?  :-\

because if I set off with my electric 'hand' brake on, it'll automatically release  ;) Doesn't yours?  ::)

But if you're moving, it'll slam the brakes on (probably).

I know this, because I tried it in the Skoda .. just to see if the manual was right ;D

You aren't leading life to the full if you are reading the manual ( or you are a lady).

Where is the fun in finding all the infinite interlocks on seatbelts, speed, open doors, weight of passenger, footbrake and now handbrake ............?

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Re: Mot and electronic handbrakes
« Reply #10 on: 19 August 2019, 19:44:52 »

If it did simply slam on, then it would be utterly useless as an emergency brake as the consequence of doing so at speed could be fatally catastrophic  :-\

It definitely did not feel 'progressive'.. rather like we had hit a wall ;D

The manual only says:

"If, while driving, a fault occurs in the brake system, the parking brake can be used as an emergency brake.
Pull the (p) button in the direction of arrow 1 and » Fig. 254 hold (you hear an audible signal) the vehicle starts to brake strongly.
The braking process is interrupted when the key is released or the accelerator”"

I think they understate "strongly" ;D
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Re: Mot and electronic handbrakes
« Reply #11 on: 19 August 2019, 19:46:12 »

Why would an electronic one make any difference to a manual one?  :-\

because if I set off with my electric 'hand' brake on, it'll automatically release  ;) Doesn't yours?  ::)

But if you're moving, it'll slam the brakes on (probably).

I know this, because I tried it in the Skoda .. just to see if the manual was right ;D

I'll try it next time I'm in it  :y :y
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Re: Mot and electronic handbrakes
« Reply #12 on: 19 August 2019, 19:47:37 »

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If it did simply slam on, then it would be utterly useless as an emergency brake as the consequence of doing so at speed could be fatally catastrophic  :-\

As you know, a Merc parking brake isn't particularly effective  ;)
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Re: Mot and electronic handbrakes
« Reply #13 on: 19 August 2019, 21:13:03 »

So you just lift the button whilst the rear wheels are spinning on the rollers?
yes. it may take a couple or three goes but it works on some cars it applies instantly  :y
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Re: Mot and electronic handbrakes
« Reply #14 on: 20 August 2019, 07:39:37 »

Why would an electronic one make any difference to a manual one?  :-\

because if I set off with my electric 'hand' brake on, it'll automatically release  ;) Doesn't yours?  ::)
I was, of course, referring to it from an MOT point of view.

I'm not the biggest fan of them, never have been, as it can't be used with precision to aid the driving experience or do 1 point turns in the road.  Plus on mine, using it in motion does apply it in the way you would expect an emergency brake to, and it bongs loudly.  Never had that issue with a big lever.  I do like the idea of a big mechanical connection between the hand and the pads/shoes :)

But an electronic one is not a show stopper for me.
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