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[tigers_gonads]

Computer running Windows 10.

I keep getting a pop up stating there is a recommended update for my pc which leads to a chrome download page.
Normally, I just right click on the taskbar and get rid.
Now, that doesn't work 
Also if you click on the "cansel upgrade" text, it takes you to a download page anyway.
How do I stop this and no i'm going to idiot the pc with Percy the persuader 

[deviator]

What anti-virus are you running?

Do you use Chrome? Could it be an actual update from Chrome? If so open Chrome and find the update option from the dropdown menus. See if that gets rid of it.

I wouldn't recommend you follow the link provided by this pop up, in case it's nasty.

[tigers_gonads]

What anti-virus are you running?

Do you use Chrome? Could it be an actual update from Chrome? If so open Chrome and find the update option from the dropdown menus. See if that gets rid of it.

I wouldn't recommend you follow the link provided by this pop up, in case it's nasty.

I only ever use IE / Edge.
Used to have Safari but nowdays, I avoid other stuff like the plague 
Anti virus is bog standard Windows Defender that comes with Win 10 

[deviator]

If you don't have Chrome installed, it sounds like a virus.

Windows Defender isn't anti virus. It does a small proportion of what a proper anti virus does. As such I'd start with one of the following.....
Avast AV
AVG
Both are free for home use Anti Virus.

Also look at MalwareBytes & Ad Aware which deal with spyware/malware/tracking cookies etc; Again, both have free versions.

If you find anything worrying, or there are issues with any of the above then Microtrend Housecall is an online virus checker, it runs in a browser window and searches your local file system.

[tigers_gonads]

Used Malwarebytes in the past so i'll give that ago 

[deviator]

I would still strongly suggest you install and keep one of the two above Free AV programs.

[tigers_gonads]

Well Malwarebytes just found 73 things it didn't like 
This pc is pretty old and not the fastest so i'll see how it goes before I stick anything else on it 

Thanks 

[Bigron]

May I hitch a ride on tbis IT topic, please?
Not a serious fault, but in the last couple of weeks or so, when I press the "Sleep" button to close my PC down, part of the way through the process it displays the screen "Preparing to stand by", and that is as far as it goes, no further action.
To close the PC I have to crash out by pressing the main OFF switch, which means that it closes all open applications and have to do a full restart the next morning.
I have done nothing untoward and there aren't any odd lights on the keyboard.
Help?

Ron.

[Migv6 le Frog Fan]

Mine tells me Toshiba flash cards app is till open every time I shut it down. Fick knows what that's about. 

[TheBoy]

If you don't use Chrome, uninstall it from Add/Remove Programs in Control Panel.  Chrome is seriously flawed anyway, so if you do use it, update it from within the app regularly.

[TheBoy]

May I hitch a ride on tbis IT topic, please?
Not a serious fault, but in the last couple of weeks or so, when I press the "Sleep" button to close my PC down, part of the way through the process it displays the screen "Preparing to stand by", and that is as far as it goes, no further action.
To close the PC I have to crash out by pressing the main OFF switch, which means that it closes all open applications and have to do a full restart the next morning.
I have done nothing untoward and there aren't any odd lights on the keyboard.
Help?

Ron.

Is it S3 standby, or hybernation?

If S3, 9 times out of 10, its a shitty driver.  Also, 9 times out of 10, even a 10yr old PC should boot Win 10 almost as fast as bringing out of S3.

[ronnyd]

I use C-Cleaner and then Malwarebytes on mine. So far good. Was set up by my son when he visited last year.

[Mr Gav]

IIRC Chrome doesn`t notify you through Windows for updates so it`s definitely fishy.

I use Kaspersky and it has a software updater so I get notifications through that, which is nice because it flags up anything untoward 

[Rods2]

IIRC Chrome doesn`t notify you through Windows for updates so it`s definitely fishy.

I use Kaspersky and it has a software updater so I get notifications through that, which is nice because it flags up anything untoward 

Russian based Kaspersky works closely with their state security agency the FSB (KGB) with your data going via their Russian cloud so they will know more about you than any Western companies or Governments know and they will have backdoor control of your PC for use as and when. After several US Government breaches of security including at the NSA traced back to Kaspersky anti-virus software, used by US Government employees, the US government has now banned its use of Kaspersky by any Government employees or associated contractors. As the Cold War hots up you could unwittingly become part of a Russian DDOS or Infrastructure attack Botnet like has happened in both Estonia and Ukraine. I would recommend changing to Avast or AVG.

[TheBoy]

Kaspersky has had some bad press lately, and have supposedly given the source to various Western authorities for them to look at.

Clearly the US security agencies still aren't happy, but whether or not that's the US playing silly buggers or Kaspersky showing modified code will never been known.

This is not the first time this has been rumoured, and part of the reason I stopped using it 15+ years ago.  That said, I wouldn't use AVG or Avast either

[Terbs]

Chris (zirk) put this up a year ago.....and it still works. I have just loaded windows 10 on a new drive, took a chance on this, and it installed with no problems, and runs well. Also updates with no problems.
Although not a virus protector, it does clean loads of crap out of temp folders, etc, where a lot of nasties hide, and reclaims space.....

http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/index.php?topic=138453.msg1783046#msg1783046

[Migv6 le Frog Fan]

Ive just installed this. I ticked to turn on automatic maintenance. Is this the correct thing to do ?

[STEMO]

Ive just installed this. I ticked to turn on automatic maintenance. Is this the correct thing to do ?

That's what my car is set to. 

[deviator]

That said, I wouldn't use AVG or Avast either

For free they are better than nothing. Look at the other options....
1. Symantec - This program is(possibly was) awful. In fact the reduction in performance caused by this used to be worse than the effects of the virus.
2. Kaspersy - The Russian issue as mentioned above. This is one of the better options IMHO.
3. McAfee - I've mainly used this in an enterprise environment and it was horrendous to manage. It's also not the best at finding malware/viruses. We currently use this at work and the 'Endpoint Protection' has stopped many applications from working without work arounds. AV should be a background, unnoticable element, until it finds something.

The other players are all quite small and may offer some amazing AV solutions, but I have no real world experience of them. I do have real world experience of the above 5. For free, I'd opt for Avast/AVG. For paid for, I'd still go with Kaspersky unless you are working on secret stuff.

You'd be a fool to trust your data/computer to Windows Defender and something like ClamAV. 

[Kevin Wood]

You'd be a fool to trust your data/computer to Windows Defender and something like ClamAV. 

Fixed, and we can all go home now.

[deviator]

You'd be a fool to trust your data/computer to Windows Defender and something like ClamAV. 

Fixed, and we can all go home now.

Valid point.  Although Windows is what most people use. I would describe myself as quite an advanced Windows user, but when it comes OSX and Linux, I consider myself just a user. I can follow instructions, but I know DOS commands a lot better than than the other two OS's.

[aaronjb]

You'd be a fool to trust your data/computer to Windows Defender and something like ClamAV. 

Fixed, and we can all go home now.

Yeah. Window's Malware Protection Engine does a really good job </sarcasm>

[TheBoy]

You'd be a fool to trust your data/computer to Windows Defender

I do every day, both professionally and personally.  Even if the last 3 weeks have been fraught .

Even with the last week, when we have looked elsewhere "just in case", overall the MS suite, including Defender for users, comes out a winner for Windows.

[TheBoy]

You'd be a fool to trust your data/computer to Windows Defender and something like ClamAV. 

Fixed, and we can all go home now.

Its a myth that Unix and half arsed derivatives like Mac OSX are virus free...  ...even if our oppswit developers thought their stupid Macs were immune, and they run (even more oppswitted) as UID 0.  Needless to say, after some red faces and being shouted at, they use AV and their local accounts are normal users (though I still notice the oppswits immediately su as soon as they open a terminal window).


Windows is secure. Every bit as secure as things like Linux and Mac OS, probably more so because it has to be. The problem is the users.  The first thing a really thick Windows user does is use an Admin account day to day, the next retarded thing is read dangerous wank on t'interweb and disable UAC, because security is so tedious, and they think it makes their penis match the size of their ego... . These types of users then install the lame Ubuntu (aka, Linux for *REALLY* stupid people) and run as root, giving their machines over to anyone who wants them.

MS are ahead in security practices, because they have been doing it longer, due to being targeted for longer.  The others all playing catch-up. That includes kernel devs, and browser makers.  Although, I do think MS have lost their way in the consumer area, following the excellent Vista and almost as good Win7 their OS's have been flawed.  Win8 is a great OS with a near unusable UI, Win10 is still buggy and suffers bipolar.


Opps, sorry, I forgot, I should know its trendy to hate MS

[Mr Gav]

Kaspersky has had some bad press lately, and have supposedly given the source to various Western authorities for them to look at.

Clearly the US security agencies still aren't happy, but whether or not that's the US playing silly buggers or Kaspersky showing modified code will never been known.

This is not the first time this has been rumoured, and part of the reason I stopped using it 15+ years ago.  That said, I wouldn't use AVG or Avast either

Yes I read about the latest troubles on the news just before my annual renewal came round.

Personally I don`t think the average user has much to worry about and Putin certainly isn`t going to be interested in by browsing habits, it probably has more to do with it being trendy to hate the Russians at the moment. I still use it and it still works well.

[Rods2]

Kaspersky has had some bad press lately, and have supposedly given the source to various Western authorities for them to look at.

Clearly the US security agencies still aren't happy, but whether or not that's the US playing silly buggers or Kaspersky showing modified code will never been known.

This is not the first time this has been rumoured, and part of the reason I stopped using it 15+ years ago.  That said, I wouldn't use AVG or Avast either

Which version of their 'source'? The problem for Russia is that the experienced Kremlin watchers know their games and why they aren't known as the people of the middle earth 'orcs' for nothing. The Russians are by far the best on the planet for security and psyop black arts and black hat techniques and it is only right they are called out for them. The West's weakness is that we are too trusting and give people the benefit of the doubt, especially useful fools.