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Markjay

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Wishbones wear?
« on: 05 January 2008, 00:53:55 »

How do you check for wishbone bushes wear? Look for back-to-front movement?

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Re: Wishbones wear?
« Reply #1 on: 05 January 2008, 00:59:04 »

Apply a lever to the bushes and look at the movement. Best bet is to compare one wishbone to the other.

However mine seemed OK until I took them off. Levering is very subjective.
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Re: Wishbones wear?
« Reply #2 on: 05 January 2008, 10:54:42 »

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How do you check for wishbone bushes wear? Look for back-to-front movement?

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The only way I could see my Wishbone wear was to get someone to wobble the steering wheel quickly left and right while watching the wishbones... I could clearly see the wishbone moving forward then backwards.. :y
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Re: Wishbones wear?
« Reply #3 on: 07 January 2008, 15:17:32 »

OK, ordered two new wishbones.  :y

I hope to pick-up a ball joint separator from Machine&Mart on the way home.

I suppose they will come with a new ball joint nut...? Also, what about the two other bolts, are they stretch bolts that need to be renewed, or can the old ones be re-used?  :o



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Re: Wishbones wear?
« Reply #4 on: 07 January 2008, 15:32:31 »

...or I suppose I could check the Haynes manual when I get home...
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Re: Wishbones wear?
« Reply #5 on: 07 January 2008, 15:33:06 »

No ball joint nut ,it is clamped by pinch bolt to knuckle.
Opinions re replacing the other two bolts vary. Due to the fact they are angle tightend when torquing up they really should be replaced.
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Re: Wishbones wear?
« Reply #6 on: 07 January 2008, 17:44:45 »

Haynes says you should replace the two bolts.  Vx looked at me like I was crackers when I asked for them..  read into that what you like!

I found the pinch bolt to be unbelievably tight/seized on mine - maybe worth a soak in PlusGas if it looks bad.
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Re: Wishbones wear?
« Reply #7 on: 07 January 2008, 18:37:34 »

they are angle tightened, so ideally should be replaced. Some kits come with them, some don't...
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Re: Wishbones wear?
« Reply #8 on: 07 January 2008, 21:20:28 »

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they are angle tightened, so ideally should be replaced. Some kits come with them, some don't...

OK, thanks, will see what I get when the wishbones arrive tomorrow, ordered them from vauxcentre.co.uk.


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Re: Wishbones wear?
« Reply #9 on: 08 January 2008, 12:00:36 »

* Update *

Just got the new wishbones. They were ordered from www.vauxcentre.co.uk. I am impressed with the service, they were ordered online yesterday at midday and arrived early this morning. However, I am less impressed with the actual product...

Firstly, it was very poorly packaged, squeezed into a too-small cardboard box with bit of the wishbone protruding from the sides.

Secondly, it has no manufacturing marking whatsoever. The manufacturer's code appear to be SSA2007 and SSA2008, but a search on the Internet did not come up with anything. They are also labelled as 'OPEL' not Vauxhall, so clearly an import. The only other bit of information are the equivalent GM and QH part numbers.

There is also no marking on the rubber bushes. What normally happens is that the company that makes the arm itself usually buys the rubber bushes from someone else, and you would then expect to see the rubber manufacturer's code on the bushes.

Thirdly, the wishbones, although clearly new, have some signs of rough treatment, with few scratches and bits of exposed metal showing. This is not very encouraging by itself, but what is even more worrying is that the paint seem to be flaking and peeling very easily, so the wishbones will rust very quickly.... might give them a Hammerite coat before installing them.

I guess I can't complain though, they cost £25 each as opposed to Vx which I understand are in the region of £200(?) each... hope they will last.









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Re: Wishbones wear?
« Reply #10 on: 08 January 2008, 12:25:18 »

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they are angle tightened, so ideally should be replaced. Some kits come with them, some don't...


Yes but, they are not angle tightened to the point where they stretch...........
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Re: Wishbones wear?
« Reply #11 on: 08 January 2008, 12:36:30 »

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they are angle tightened, so ideally should be replaced. Some kits come with them, some don't...


Yes but, they are not angle tightened to the point where they stretch...........
Thought any angle tightened bolt should be renewed?
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Re: Wishbones wear?
« Reply #12 on: 08 January 2008, 12:40:59 »

Will go and see if my local Vx has these bolts...
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Re: Wishbones wear?
« Reply #13 on: 08 January 2008, 12:43:14 »

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Will go and see if my local Vx has these bolts...
If Mark reckons not required, who are we to disagree?
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Re: Wishbones wear?
« Reply #14 on: 08 January 2008, 12:51:47 »

If you are worried about the new ones being poor quality and not lasting, keep the old ones you take out and get them 're-bushed'. Really push the boat out and strip them down and get them powder coated as well

Then if the cheap ones are knackered in 6months you have a nice newly bushed genuine ones to put back on.

I recently changed mine to the cheap ones (£44 for the pair delivered) and after chatting to a few people i'm thinkig about going down the re-bushing route
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