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SWMBO is watching.....
« on: 28 November 2018, 19:16:14 »

.. an old film called Sapphire on Talking Pictures, made in 1959 and they just wouldn,t  get away now with the absolute racism that pervades through the whole dialogue of the film. Even makes me feel a bit uncomfortable. :o
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« Reply #1 on: 28 November 2018, 19:26:09 »

Whilst at school in the early seventies the headmaster made a comment during assembly that we were fortunate there were no 'coloured children' at the school and he would do all in his power to keep it that way.

Probably lose his job for that these days but back then nobody thought it unusual.  :)
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« Reply #2 on: 28 November 2018, 19:32:52 »

Funny how attitudes change.  A 1950's audience would be shocked and horrified by the mildest of sex scenes in today's cinema.  ::)

Remember Nine And A Half Weeks?   ???

That was considered very racy and on the edge of what was acceptable in the late '80's, but no one would bat an eyelid today.  :)
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Re: SWMBO is watching.....
« Reply #3 on: 28 November 2018, 19:34:59 »

.. an old film called Sapphire on Talking Pictures, made in 1959 and they just wouldn,t  get away now with the absolute racism that pervades through the whole dialogue of the film. Even makes me feel a bit uncomfortable. :o
That's what I thought when I watch Donovan's reef a few years ago.  I remember thinking no wonder that men of generations passed were so over the top macho, mysoginistic and racist with such stereotypes on the big screen acting as role models.
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« Reply #4 on: 28 November 2018, 19:36:25 »

Funny how attitudes change.  A 1950's audience would be shocked and horrified by the mildest of sex scenes in today's cinema.  ::)

Remember Nine And A Half Weeks?   ???

That was considered very racy and on the edge of what was acceptable in the late '80's, but no one would bat an eyelid today.  :)

In the fifties you would have a close up of a couple kissing on the beach, then the camera would pan to waves crashing against the rocks.

Little wonder kids in the fifties didn't know what went where. ::)

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« Reply #5 on: 28 November 2018, 19:40:47 »

.. an old film called Sapphire on Talking Pictures, made in 1959 and they just wouldn,t  get away now with the absolute racism that pervades through the whole dialogue of the film. Even makes me feel a bit uncomfortable. :o
That's what I thought when I watch Donovan's reef a few years ago.  I remember thinking no wonder that men of generations passed were so over the top macho, mysoginistic and racist with such stereotypes on the big screen acting as role models.

Ah yes. John Wayne would sort out an argumentative woman by putting her across his knee and giving her a well deserved  spanking. :y

None of this feminist crap for 'Big John'..... ;)

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Re: SWMBO is watching.....
« Reply #6 on: 28 November 2018, 19:47:29 »

Funny how attitudes change.  A 1950's audience would be shocked and horrified by the mildest of sex scenes in today's cinema.  ::)

Remember Nine And A Half Weeks?   ???

That was considered very racy and on the edge of what was acceptable in the late '80's, but no one would bat an eyelid today.  :)

In the fifties you would have a close up of a couple kissing on the beach, then the camera would pan to waves crashing against the rocks.

Little wonder kids in the fifties didn't know what went where. ::)
I thought it was all trains rushing into tunnels and other such euphemisms?  ;D
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« Reply #7 on: 28 November 2018, 20:44:45 »

I watch quite a few of the films on Talking Pictures and they're forever having to show disclaimers at the beginning to cover themselves for showing such films/programmes.But they were of their time and attitudes/laws have changed since they were filmed.Nowadays they even have to put a disclaimer at the start of The Dambusters because of the name of Guy Gibsons dog :-X
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« Reply #8 on: 28 November 2018, 20:59:50 »

I watch quite a few of the films on Talking Pictures and they're forever having to show disclaimers at the beginning to cover themselves for showing such films/programmes.But they were of their time and attitudes/laws have changed since they were filmed.Nowadays they even have to put a disclaimer at the start of The Dambusters because of the name of Guy Gibsons dog :-X

Nigger.

 Back in the day everyone with a black cat or dog called it Nigger. More descriptive than racist.
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« Reply #9 on: 28 November 2018, 21:03:28 »

Back in the day, my black cat was called Sutty
the current black feline rat catcher is called Ebony
 (black and thick as a plank of wood)
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« Reply #10 on: 28 November 2018, 21:12:02 »

I agree it wasn't meant in a racist way Opti and iirc the name was also a "proper" name for a shade of brown for clothes etc.,but these days when people are looking for the slightest thing to be offended about a disclaimer is needed to cover the broadcasting station from any kind of law suit.
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« Reply #11 on: 28 November 2018, 21:15:37 »

My mother frequently used a wool officially described as "Nigger Brown" and nobody found it unusual or offensive, just descriptive, as Dr. Opti said.

Ron.
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« Reply #12 on: 28 November 2018, 21:23:23 »

Changing attitudes though isn't it? As a programme maker or script writer try getting away with such as "Love Thy Neighbour" or "'til Death Us Do Part"these days :D People used to view those and have a laugh.Today they'd be baying for blood!
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« Reply #13 on: 28 November 2018, 21:25:36 »

Changing attitudes though isn't it? As a programme maker or script writer try getting away with such as "Love Thy Neighbour" or "'til Death Us Do Part"these days :D People used to view those and have a laugh.Today they'd be baying for blood!

I wonder when the last time the BBC gave Alf Garnett an outing?  ::)  ;D
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« Reply #14 on: 28 November 2018, 22:59:07 »

Last time we visited Scarborough found a shop that was still selling & displaying Golliwogs could not believe the shocked look on some peoples faces, all balmy in my opinion just a toy that has been around for years black or white does not matter to me.
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