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Re: So what have you done to your car today?
« Reply #16260 on: 22 May 2018, 14:37:22 »

Washed with pure rainwater, cleaned with the hide of bambi and buffed up with tufts of hair from a virgins fanny.
Albs does his that way, too.  ;D

He lives in Essex. Where does he get the equipment? ;D

Superb.  :y ;D ;D ;D
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Re: So what have you done to your car today?
« Reply #16261 on: 22 May 2018, 14:38:55 »

;D No, the loom is Lucas colours IIRC ;)

A friend of mine who is an avionics engineer by trade did offer to build me a loom - I said I didn't want it built like the ones he uses at work, where every wire is white  ;D ;D

Not sure if its an aviation thing, but the bloke who built my car originally worked as RAF ground crew and all my wires were light blue. All. Of. Them....

It's easier to "remove to a place of safety" one big reel of cable than two dozen smaller ones. ;)


Cessna wire Caravans with white wire. And there's lots of it!
That's because it's got one of those noisy spinny things at the front.  ::)
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Re: So what have you done to your car today?
« Reply #16262 on: 22 May 2018, 14:44:17 »

Another year's MOT on the roller skate.

Had a discussion about what emission limits to test it to. We decided to lob the probe up the exhaust and decide based on the numbers whether it was going to be "visible smoke" or a proper test. :D

2.5 % CO and 200 PPM HC. Not too bad for a 24 year old no-cat engine with a home made ECU. ;D

Celebrated by giving it a "spirited" drive in to the office via the back roads.

Q plates are great.  :D
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« Reply #16263 on: 23 May 2018, 10:33:46 »

Another year's MOT on the roller skate.

Had a discussion about what emission limits to test it to. We decided to lob the probe up the exhaust and decide based on the numbers whether it was going to be "visible smoke" or a proper test. :D

2.5 % CO and 200 PPM HC. Not too bad for a 24 year old no-cat engine with a home made ECU. ;D

Celebrated by giving it a "spirited" drive in to the office via the back roads.

Q plates are great.  :D

A question for you - does your V5c state any emissions limits? The new MOT manual has an interesting section for kit cars stating that if the V5 shows no limits then the car must be tested per whatever limits were in place in the "year of first use" for the vehicle not the engine..

Seems some folks are starting to fail their MOTs (on, say, a car first used in 2002 but fitted with a 1970s engine and no limits shown on the V5c)..
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Re: So what have you done to your car today?
« Reply #16264 on: 23 May 2018, 11:01:35 »

Mine went through SVA in March 2000, IIRC. At the SVA test, emissions limits were determined by age of engine to be 3.5% CO and 1200 PPM HC. (Non-cat limits were allowable with an engine date up to August 1995, IIRC).

Mine has no emissions limits listed on the V5, however.

I've helped put a few cars through SVA since then, and they did start putting emissions data on the V5 a couple of years after, but there clearly was a period during which they didn't.

I have a very reasonable MOT guy with whom I have a good relationship. He's an ex-westfield owner himself, so I don't push the matter, as long as I'm not heading for a fail. ;)

If that were to happen, my first get out of jail card would be clause 6b of the MOT manual:

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Vehicles having a Q plate registration when presented for MOT are to be treated as follows:

    for emission purposes only, they are to be considered as first used before 1 August 1975
    for all other testing purposes they are to be considered as being first used on 1 January 1971

For cars that ended up with an age-related plate that doesn't help, of course.

I also have the SVA manual from the time the car was registered, showing how the emissions limits were derived.

It is completely unreasonable that cars are now being tested to higher limits than required at registration. I suppose the only recourse would be to appeal the MOT result and then press to have the correct emissions limits entered on the V5.

Purely down to the left hand at DVSA not knowing what the right had is doing, IMHO. ::)
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« Reply #16265 on: 23 May 2018, 11:10:36 »

Yeah - the fellow who is now trapped in this situation is stuck doing exactly what you describe; trying to get the emissions limits added to the V5c, but, of course, he's being bounced from pillar (DVSA) to post (VOSA) :(

He has an age related 2002 plate and has subsequently changed the engine, which puts him firmly in the fscked category (as the MOT manual now also states that if the engine has been changed subsequent to registration, that the car be tested per the year of first use), I suspect!
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Re: So what have you done to your car today?
« Reply #16266 on: 23 May 2018, 11:15:08 »

Yep, it's a retarded as a Morris Traveller pulling up and the tester asking what's happened to the side airbags. ;D Still, as there are a relatively small number of cars affected, I suspect none of them picked it up, and now the strategy is probably to obfuscate sufficiently long to make those affected go and buy a cat. ::)
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Re: So what have you done to your car today?
« Reply #16267 on: 23 May 2018, 14:21:22 »

Picked it up with a shiny new clutch etc and no leaks :)

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Re: So what have you done to your car today?
« Reply #16268 on: 23 May 2018, 14:22:23 »

Broke it  :-[ :-[ >:( >:(
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Re: So what have you done to your car today?
« Reply #16269 on: 23 May 2018, 15:59:04 »

Picked it up with a shiny new clutch etc and no leaks :)

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Re: So what have you done to your car today?
« Reply #16270 on: 23 May 2018, 16:21:56 »

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Re: So what have you done to your car today?
« Reply #16271 on: 23 May 2018, 16:49:48 »

Picked it up with a shiny new clutch etc and no leaks :)
Nice one, and half the price of the A Class one no doubt :D
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Re: So what have you done to your car today?
« Reply #16272 on: 23 May 2018, 18:12:17 »

Picked it up with a shiny new clutch etc and no leaks :)
Nice one, and half the price of the A Class one no doubt :D
Your Optiness is showing  ;D
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Re: So what have you done to your car today?
« Reply #16273 on: 23 May 2018, 18:15:47 »

Broke it  :-[ :-[ >:( >:(
Well.....come on...spill your guts.
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Re: So what have you done to your car today?
« Reply #16274 on: 23 May 2018, 20:28:22 »

Drove it to Sheffield and back, via Halesowen both times.
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