Topic: Dasboard display icons. (Read 4946 times)

egcc · « **on:** 26 August 2006, 09:25:52 »

My 2001 omega has a engine icon(yellow) on the dashboard which lit up yesterday continuous

, looked in the owners manual and the reasons to why this has happened are very vaige and opt for the ' consult your main dealer'.

What it does say is - there is a a problem with emmissions or immobiliser and while the icon is lit a safety backup is in force and the car will not perform as it would normally do so don't use it for long periods.

Has anybody any further info on this or had the same problem.
I will take it to vauxhall on monday.. and i'm guessing it will cost alot of money to put right.. hope somebody can help.

Dave.

TheBoy · « **Reply #1 on:** 26 August 2006, 10:28:17 »

A dealer will likely charge you £45 + VAT to read the fault codes via Tech2 before even starting to work on it. Then they will probably say the ECU is knackered, and what you to take out a mortgage.

Alas, being a 2.6, you can't do the 'paperclip' test. Find an independent with a generic code reader (or buy one yourself - they can be cheaper than paying the £45 for Vx - but make sure its compatible with your 2.6 Omega). Post the codes here, and we can advise.

tunnie · « **Reply #2 on:** 26 August 2006, 10:48:55 »

Yup, as above a sensor has most likley died someware.

Kev · « **Reply #3 on:** 26 August 2006, 10:56:00 »

And if you are unsure of the 'Paperclip' test, you can read all about it here...

http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1152601768

Flash out the code and the guys on here will help you as much as they can. [smiley=thumbsup.gif]

TheBoy · « **Reply #4 on:** 26 August 2006, 10:59:08 »

2.6 cannot do paperclip test....

tunnie · « **Reply #5 on:** 26 August 2006, 11:05:53 »

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2.6 cannot do paperclip test....

Nor the 2.2 or 3.2

egcc · « **Reply #6 on:** 26 August 2006, 11:38:18 »

Just a thought - My breakdown recovery service.. Do they carry this piece of kit with them and able to give me the codes or at least tell me where the fault lies or advise me to take it to my dealer?

TheBoy · « **Reply #7 on:** 26 August 2006, 11:57:56 »

Both RAC and AA carry fairly comprehensive readers. But you haven't broken done (yet) - at worst, you are in limp...

Is the light permenently on, is it flashing, or has it gone back out?

egcc · « **Reply #8 on:** 26 August 2006, 12:36:33 »

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Both RAC and AA carry fairly comprehensive readers. But you haven't broken done (yet) - at worst, you are in limp...

Is the light permenently on, is it flashing, or has it gone back out?

The light is on permanent,lit up yesterday while driving, i tried it again this morning and is still lit while engine is running.... the car starts and runs normal thou.

B52 · « **Reply #9 on:** 26 August 2006, 13:26:33 »

Have u had any work done on or near the exhaust? I had this once before when the garage didnt put a lambda sensor back on secure.

egcc · « **Reply #10 on:** 26 August 2006, 14:15:14 »

Had no work to the exhaust system, breakdown guy has been, "sorry cant help you we don't carry diagnostic equipment because they cost too much and if we did carry the equipment it would only give you a code and tell you where the problem lies(well yes thats what i want), so we can take you to a garage.. Oh no that won't be of use to you it's a bank holiday".. bye.!! Crazy!!

I suppose its my fault for taking up the offer of breakdown assistance offered by my insurance company... Europ Assistance I won't be using again.

tunnie · « **Reply #11 on:** 26 August 2006, 16:23:05 »

How are the Vx dealers around you? - If you can talk to the actual Vx mechanics, and not the people in shirt & tie they might give you a quick diagnose. Explain your situation, and that you only want the fault codes.....

Maybe dontate to their favorite charity as well

Is there anyone up north ish with Tech2?

Martin_1962 · « **Reply #12 on:** 26 August 2006, 18:04:08 »

Mine runs well despite a pemanent icon on - something to do with running slightly lean on gas

Tezray · « **Reply #13 on:** 26 August 2006, 18:34:24 »

How exactly does it run? Will it rev past 4500rpm? Does it stutter? Cut out? etc....

Taxi_Driver · « **Reply #14 on:** 26 August 2006, 19:14:19 »

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My 2001 omega has a engine icon(yellow) on the dashboard which lit up yesterday continuous , looked in the owners manual and the reasons to why this has happened are very vaige and opt for the ' consult your main dealer'.

What it does say is - there is a a problem with emmissions or immobiliser and while the icon is lit a safety backup is in force and the car will not perform as it would normally do so don't use it for long periods.

Has anybody any further info on this or had the same problem.
I will take it to vauxhall on monday.. and i'm guessing it will cost alot of money to put right.. hope somebody can help.

Dave.

If its the symbol of the engine....then it is the emissions light.....perfectly fine to drive with it on.....only a prob if it starts flashing iirc

Think you might find vx dealer closed Monday......its a bank holiday

Mine comes on and off as well....but like Martin....mine runs on lpg too.

Be worth getting the codes read......but prob just a faulty sensor.....theres 2 off them (lambda sensors)

One you can see from the engine bay.....on the exhaust pipe off the manifold (well you can on a 2.2, not sure on V6's) Other one is after the cat and 1st exhaust box ( 1st time i saw the second one today....as my meega had it wheels up in air dangling.....having an oil change)

egcc · « **Reply #15 on:** 26 August 2006, 20:12:32 »

If its the symbol of the engine....then it is the emissions light.....perfectly fine to drive with it on.....only a prob if it starts flashing iirc

Think you might find vx dealer closed Monday......its a bank holiday

Mine comes on and off as well....but like Martin....mine runs on lpg too.

Be worth getting the codes read......but prob just a faulty sensor.....theres 2 off them (lambda sensors)

One you can see from the engine bay.....on the exhaust pipe off the manifold (well you can on a 2.2, not sure on V6's) Other one is after the cat and 1st exhaust box ( 1st time i saw the second one today....as my meega had it wheels up in air dangling.....having an oil change)
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I gave it a run today alls normal, it does sound like the sensors on the exhaust, looking briefly i found 2 one each side approx under the front seats most of the exhaust is covered with a plate so i'm not sure if there are more, maybe one is faulty.

Does anyone know where i can purchase a diagnostic kit.. it would save alot of time and worry.
Thanks all for your input.
Regards
Dave.

Taxi_Driver · « **Reply #16 on:** 27 August 2006, 17:05:04 »

You could get something like this off ebay

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Opel-Vauxhall-OBD2-OBD-II-Interface-Tech2-Opel-Tech-2_W0QQitemZ160023835172QQihZ006QQcategoryZ30921QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

It looks very similar to the one I have

It should work ok on your Omega......you will need a laptop or desktop (with a long serial lead) with a serial port

It can read and reset most codes, but the software is very buggy for it.....so somethings it carnt read.....but engine codes it seems fine with (Unless anyone else has found some better software for it?)

Its cheap and cheerful, so dont expect too much......next decent code reader ive seen is about £500

HTH

TheBoy · « **Reply #17 on:** 27 August 2006, 20:29:38 »

Or buy a real Tech2 for several thousand pounds

- and even more to get it enabled for all tasks

Taxi_Driver · « **Reply #18 on:** 28 August 2006, 07:15:55 »

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Or buy a real Tech2 for several thousand pounds - and even more to get it enabled for all tasks

I would have suggested that.....if egcc had lived in Swindon

egcc · « **Reply #19 on:** 28 August 2006, 21:32:35 »

Hi all, i have seen this http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=300019125452&fromMakeTrack=true#ebayphotohosting

Do you all think this kit will do the trick on a omega 2001.

Any basic instructions of how to use it would be appreciated... I only have a desktop pc wow the lead will have to be long.

Regards dave.

TheBoy · « **Reply #20 on:** 28 August 2006, 21:34:34 »

Thats what we call the 'cheapo tech2 lead' - software is awful, but it *may* do what you want it to do...

egcc · « **Reply #21 on:** 28 August 2006, 21:39:39 »

Any suggestions for a decent unit and cost?
Dave.

TheBoy · « **Reply #22 on:** 28 August 2006, 21:49:08 »

Yours is OBDII, so scantool.net may be worth a look, but this only does engine. The cheapo Tech2 'does' all onboard systems (usually, though the flaky software often lets it down). I borrowed a members cheapo lead, and I did do a table of what it worked on on my 98 MV6.

egcc · « **Reply #23 on:** 03 September 2006, 18:08:38 »

On a independant mechanics diagnostic kit codes shown were 090/091 related to fuel trim... engine light was cleared at the time of the test but lit up again a day later, so it's off to the garage.

egcc · « **Reply #24 on:** 06 September 2006, 13:08:08 »

Just a Update visited my vaux dealer today codes found -

TC P0170 Fuel trim
TC P0173 Fuel trim
TC PO100 Mass air volume flow low.

The mechanic has tested all these areas but found no fault.

The light at present is out just hope it stays that way :-? if the light comes back on again and i have it tested another £50 and maybe for nothing.

Any ideas?

nixoro · « **Reply #25 on:** 06 September 2006, 13:35:40 »

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Just a Update visited my vaux dealer today codes found -

TC P0170 Fuel trim
TC P0173 Fuel trim
TC PO100 Mass air volume flow low.

The mechanic has tested all these areas but found no fault.

The light at present is out just hope it stays that way :-? if the light comes back on again and i have it tested another £50 and maybe for nothing.

Any ideas?

Not sure what the first two codes are but the bottom one maybe related to the mass airflow sensor.

HTH

TheBoy · « **Reply #26 on:** 06 September 2006, 14:57:24 »

Check engine Earths, and earths to lamda sensors...

egcc · « **Reply #27 on:** 06 September 2006, 15:39:26 »

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Check engine Earths, and earths to lamda sensors...

lamda sensors sorry any clues where to look

(or are they the sensors on the exhaust system) if they are i believe i have 2. oh just found this link - http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1155557056/0#0

thanks

Dave

TheBoy · « **Reply #28 on:** 06 September 2006, 16:33:20 »

yes, lamdas on exhausts. Also, should be some earths between engine and battery -ve.

egcc · « **Reply #29 on:** 06 September 2006, 18:22:51 »

Thanks alot i will try everything... damn light as come back on.....lol, can't understand why vauxhall could not find a fault with codes in hand, they assure me they've checked all areas concerned but all is well... weird.

I think this will be an ongoing thing if i were to find the problem and fix it would the light go out on its own or will it need to be cleared with the diagnostic kit? if i disconnect the battery will this turn off the light all be it temporary.

Dave

Taxi_Driver · « **Reply #30 on:** 06 September 2006, 19:32:20 »

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Thanks alot i will try everything... damn light as come back on.....lol, can't understand why vauxhall could not find a fault with codes in hand, they assure me they've checked all areas concerned but all is well... weird.

I think this will be an ongoing thing if i were to find the problem and fix it would the light go out on its own or will it need to be cleared with the diagnostic kit? if i disconnect the battery will this turn off the light all be it temporary.

Dave

Thats usual vx fix when there not sure.....reset the codes and hope it goes away

If you find the fault and fix it....the light will go out on its own but probably not immediately.....if you want instant light off after fixing the fault then it'll have to be reset and Im pretty sure disconnecting the battery on yours will not do it

cheers

TheBoy · « **Reply #31 on:** 06 September 2006, 19:34:09 »

If you have a laptop with a proper COM port, it may be worth your while investing in a fault code reader, such as cheapo tech2, or scantool.net depending on age of car. Probably cost less than Vx code reset...

Taxi_Driver · « **Reply #32 on:** 06 September 2006, 19:34:27 »

Other cheap fix is......have the emissions tested to make sure there is nothing wrong.....then just take the bulb out

egcc · « **Reply #33 on:** 06 September 2006, 19:38:35 »

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Other cheap fix is......have the emissions tested to make sure there is nothing wrong.....then just take the bulb out

just disconnected the battery your right it doesn't cancel the light, taking the bulb out sounds good at this time...lol

TheBoy · « **Reply #34 on:** 06 September 2006, 19:43:13 »

We could work through the issues first

- there are a couple of multimeter measurements to take.

The EML comes on for a reason, so its worth trying to resolve...

egcc · « **Reply #35 on:** 06 September 2006, 19:56:46 »

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We could work through the issues first - there are a couple of multimeter measurements to take.

The EML comes on for a reason, so its worth trying to resolve...

Was only joking.... would never remove the bulb... fixing the problem is paramount, but if the light is on all the time like it is now and vauxhall say there is no fault on my vehicle, if a fault was to occur apart from the car running badly i don't think i'd know.. bit worrying.

Taxi_Driver · « **Reply #36 on:** 07 September 2006, 07:07:45 »

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We could work through the issues first - there are a couple of multimeter measurements to take.

The EML comes on for a reason, so its worth trying to resolve...

I thought it was the emissions light that was on :-/

egcc · « **Reply #37 on:** 07 September 2006, 10:09:34 »

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We could work through the issues first - there are a couple of multimeter measurements to take.

The EML comes on for a reason, so its worth trying to resolve...

I thought it was the emissions light that was on :-/

It's the yellow/amber coloured engine icon on the dashboard which is lit the icon above the handbrake light found a pic on ebay - http://www.autoquake.com/auctioning4u-motors/index.php?module=thumbnail&image=./images/archive/709-X817HNT/DSC_0026.JPG&maxw=1024&maxh=768 , is this icon not the EML also.. i'm a bit confused now.

egcc · « **Reply #38 on:** 11 September 2006, 11:48:45 »

Problem sorted.. 1 of the sensor wires on the exhaust system not sure how it was missed by vaux but replaced it and the dreaded light is out.. vaux kindly gave me a free diagnostic test so can't really complain.

Now i can move onto my heater problem and that lazy central locking motor on the drivers door. (keeping me busy anyway) lol.

Thanks all for your help
Dave.

Taxi_Driver · « **Reply #39 on:** 12 September 2006, 07:19:54 »

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We could work through the issues first - there are a couple of multimeter measurements to take.

The EML comes on for a reason, so its worth trying to resolve...

I thought it was the emissions light that was on :-/

It's the yellow/amber coloured engine icon on the dashboard which is lit the icon above the handbrake light found a pic on ebay - http://www.autoquake.com/auctioning4u-motors/index.php?module=thumbnail&image=./images/archive/709-X817HNT/DSC_0026.JPG&maxw=1024&maxh=768 , is this icon not the EML also.. i'm a bit confused now.

The light above the one lit in the piccy is the emissions light.....the EML is the one far left in the piccy (car with spanner sticking thro its roof)
I believe they changed it like this on facelifts. prefacelifts the engine symbol is the EML i think.

Glad its now sorted tho [smiley=thumbsup.gif]

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