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all season tyre thread
« on: 28 November 2016, 00:25:46 »

i've contrived for all 4 of my tyres to go illegal at the same time, probably by feb next year. 

so i'm looking at 4 replacements best deal seems to be £46.60 each for Westlake SA07 XL (E,C,74db) (235/45 R17).  the old tyres are westlake AKA goodride sv308s and I liked them. 

BUT i'm tempted by some all season tyres eg Tristar Ecopower 4S 235/45 R17 97W XL (E,C,69db) or the suspiciously similar looking Minerva Emizero 4S 
which i might be able to get for £52.50 each.  Prices inc fitting, disposal, valve, balance, VAT.

so is there a catch with all season tyres?  the wet grip seems to be the same, C, and the noise is a lot lower.  do they wear out faster?
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Re: all season tyre thread
« Reply #1 on: 28 November 2016, 13:13:51 »

They're a compromise.. they won't be good at anything.
Get a set of decent summer tyres and winter tyres instead.
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Re: all season tyre thread
« Reply #2 on: 28 November 2016, 17:29:19 »

Very pleased with my Accelera winters...

£215 fitted for four 8)
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Re: all season tyre thread
« Reply #3 on: 28 November 2016, 18:16:37 »

I couldn't recommend anything less than A rated wet grip - seeing how poor A rated tyres can be, I can only be utterly terrified how bad C rated would be :o
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Re: all season tyre thread
« Reply #4 on: 28 November 2016, 18:26:08 »

They're a compromise.. they won't be good at anything.
Get a set of decent summer tyres and winter tyres instead.

Deja vu here , but - no need for winter tyres in the UK, apart from possibly northern parts of Scotland.
If we get 5 days of snow & ice, it will be classed as a hard winter.  ;)
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Re: all season tyre thread
« Reply #5 on: 28 November 2016, 18:57:39 »

When we had those -18C's 4 or 5 years back, my summer tyres were fine.  Occasionally a bit slippery on pure ice patches, but a winter tyre won't help there anyway....
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Re: all season tyre thread
« Reply #6 on: 28 November 2016, 22:19:53 »

Been driving for 46 years now & never used winter tyres so don't think I will be considering them now.
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Re: all season tyre thread
« Reply #7 on: 28 November 2016, 22:33:37 »

Never used ,em when we had real winters so don,t think i will bother now. More worried about the habits of all the impatient buggers on the road. Bet they ain,t got winter tyres. :D
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Re: all season tyre thread
« Reply #8 on: 30 November 2016, 11:53:50 »

Never used ,em when we had real winters so don,t think i will bother now. More worried about the habits of all the impatient buggers on the road. Bet they ain,t got winter tyres. :D
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Be great if the majority of cars even had tyres that are legal horrifies me sometimes when I glance at parked cars and see what they are running on.
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Re: all season tyre thread
« Reply #9 on: 30 November 2016, 19:31:54 »

Looking at the MOT history on some cars it seems the only time some drivers find that their tyres are fooked is at MOT time. My two Granddaughters seem to think that it,s the same as a full service. :o
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Re: all season tyre thread
« Reply #10 on: 30 November 2016, 19:39:12 »

Just the same as you can only go as fast as the car in front, then you can only make progress in the snow if the car in front can.
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Re: all season tyre thread
« Reply #11 on: 01 December 2016, 02:04:29 »

When we had those -18C's 4 or 5 years back, my summer tyres were fine.  Occasionally a bit slippery on pure ice patches, but a winter tyre won't help there anyway....

tyresafe.org don't agree with you, see this video.  filmed on an ice rink
https://youtu.be/P95Df1nIFd8

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Re: all season tyre thread
« Reply #12 on: 01 December 2016, 07:06:57 »

Impressive film. I did not believe in using winter tyres, but my wife made such a fuss I bought her a  set. They impressed me. Honest John in the Telegraph recommends them too. I understand they are a legal requiredment in the winter months in some European countries.The wife's set is noisier than normal tyres.
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Re: all season tyre thread
« Reply #13 on: 01 December 2016, 07:47:50 »

Wouldn't be without mine, living half way up, or down a hill with off camber sharp corners but still firmly in the South of England.

It's nothing much to do with snow and ice most of the time but more to do with improved stopping distances and lateral grip when the rubber is out of it's operating temperature range. Good driving technique is essential but you can't defeat the laws of physics when you do run out of grip however good you are, and you don't know you've run out until you do. Most public roads don't have enough run off to get away with it so I prefer not to go there.

Of my 4 cars the Omega is also the last one I use if it's properly slippery as it's possible to get the tail out even with a 2.2 diesel and a slimy wet road surface.
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Re: all season tyre thread
« Reply #14 on: 01 December 2016, 07:53:45 »

Well the morning temperature, has been below freezing, so I've  packed the car, I have
Set of snow chains
1 blanket
1 shovel
2 flares
A torch
Gas stove
Kettle
Powdered milk
K rations
Satellite phone,
But l don't know what winter tyre's to get?
Help confused of hoof'land, well below the artic circle.
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