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[omega2018]

i've contrived for all 4 of my tyres to go illegal at the same time, probably by feb next year. 

so i'm looking at 4 replacements best deal seems to be £46.60 each for Westlake SA07 XL (E,C,74db) (235/45 R17).  the old tyres are westlake AKA goodride sv308s and I liked them. 

BUT i'm tempted by some all season tyres eg Tristar Ecopower 4S 235/45 R17 97W XL (E,C,69db) or the suspiciously similar looking Minerva Emizero 4S 
which i might be able to get for £52.50 each.  Prices inc fitting, disposal, valve, balance, VAT.

so is there a catch with all season tyres?  the wet grip seems to be the same, C, and the noise is a lot lower.  do they wear out faster?

[citroenguy]

They're a compromise.. they won't be good at anything.
Get a set of decent summer tyres and winter tyres instead.

[Doctor Gollum]

Very pleased with my Accelera winters...

£215 fitted for four

[TheBoy]

I couldn't recommend anything less than A rated wet grip - seeing how poor A rated tyres can be, I can only be utterly terrified how bad C rated would be

[Migv6 le Frog Fan]

They're a compromise.. they won't be good at anything.
Get a set of decent summer tyres and winter tyres instead.

Deja vu here , but - no need for winter tyres in the UK, apart from possibly northern parts of Scotland.
If we get 5 days of snow & ice, it will be classed as a hard winter. 

[TheBoy]

When we had those -18C's 4 or 5 years back, my summer tyres were fine.  Occasionally a bit slippery on pure ice patches, but a winter tyre won't help there anyway....

[2boxerdogs]

Been driving for 46 years now & never used winter tyres so don't think I will be considering them now.

[ronnyd]

Never used ,em when we had real winters so don,t think i will bother now. More worried about the habits of all the impatient buggers on the road. Bet they ain,t got winter tyres.

[2boxerdogs]

Never used ,em when we had real winters so don,t think i will bother now. More worried about the habits of all the impatient buggers on the road. Bet they ain,t got winter tyres.

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Be great if the majority of cars even had tyres that are legal horrifies me sometimes when I glance at parked cars and see what they are running on.

[ronnyd]

Looking at the MOT history on some cars it seems the only time some drivers find that their tyres are fooked is at MOT time. My two Granddaughters seem to think that it,s the same as a full service.

[STEMO]

Just the same as you can only go as fast as the car in front, then you can only make progress in the snow if the car in front can.

[omega2018]

When we had those -18C's 4 or 5 years back, my summer tyres were fine.  Occasionally a bit slippery on pure ice patches, but a winter tyre won't help there anyway....

tyresafe.org don't agree with you, see this video.  filmed on an ice rink
https://youtu.be/P95Df1nIFd8

[terry paget]

Impressive film. I did not believe in using winter tyres, but my wife made such a fuss I bought her a  set. They impressed me. Honest John in the Telegraph recommends them too. I understand they are a legal requiredment in the winter months in some European countries.The wife's set is noisier than normal tyres.

[ajsphead]

Wouldn't be without mine, living half way up, or down a hill with off camber sharp corners but still firmly in the South of England.

It's nothing much to do with snow and ice most of the time but more to do with improved stopping distances and lateral grip when the rubber is out of it's operating temperature range. Good driving technique is essential but you can't defeat the laws of physics when you do run out of grip however good you are, and you don't know you've run out until you do. Most public roads don't have enough run off to get away with it so I prefer not to go there.

Of my 4 cars the Omega is also the last one I use if it's properly slippery as it's possible to get the tail out even with a 2.2 diesel and a slimy wet road surface.

[biggriffin]

Well the morning temperature, has been below freezing, so I've  packed the car, I have
Set of snow chains
1 blanket
1 shovel
2 flares
A torch
Gas stove
Kettle
Powdered milk
K rations
Satellite phone,
But l don't know what winter tyre's to get?
Help confused of hoof'land, well below the artic circle.

[Andy A]

I was always told years ago, that if driving local only below 30mph, let 10 psi out of all the tyres and put a couple of bags of sand in the boot for weight. Used to work a treat on my old 2.8i Capri when it snowed. Haven't had any proper snow since owning the Omega so not tried it yet.

[ajsphead]

Well the morning temperature, has been below freezing, so I've  packed the car, I have
Set of snow chains
1 blanket
1 shovel
2 flares
A torch
Gas stove
Kettle
Powdered milk
K rations
Satellite phone,
But l don't know what winter tyre's to get?
Help confused of hoof'land, well below the artic circle.

www.mytyres.co.uk and any recognised good brand. £50-60 per corner has kept me out of trouble for years.

[Mr Gav]

Been driving for 46 years now & never used winter tyres so don't think I will be considering them now.

46 years ago you will have been watching a black and white TV but I bet you`re not watching one now 

If I were using my own car as a daily driver then I would have a spare set of wheels with winter tyres on, apparently they are a lot better than normal tyres when the temperatures are below five degrees.

[Doctor Gollum]

Time for a cuppa then BG, and light a flare for clarity of the situation 

[2boxerdogs]

Been driving for 46 years now & never used winter tyres so don't think I will be considering them now.

46 years ago you will have been watching a black and white TV but I bet you`re not watching one now 

If I were using my own car as a daily driver then I would have a spare set of wheels with winter tyres on, apparently they are a lot better than normal tyres when the temperatures are below five degrees.

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What has Television  got to do with   tyres ? 😂😂

[Doctor Gollum]

Why change the habits of a lifetime...

[omega2018]

www.mytyres.co.uk and any recognised good brand. £50-60 per corner has kept me out of trouble for years.

yep just ordered 4 from them, £52.50 per tyre inc £7 fitting, 'all season' Tristar Ecopower 4S 235/45 R17 97W XL E,C,69db.  fitting seems very cheap but will find out soon. could have had budget summer tyres (Goodride/Westlake SA37 Sport C,B,72db) for £45 each inc fitting.

[TheBoy]

When we had those -18C's 4 or 5 years back, my summer tyres were fine.  Occasionally a bit slippery on pure ice patches, but a winter tyre won't help there anyway....

tyresafe.org don't agree with you, see this video.  filmed on an ice rink
https://youtu.be/P95Df1nIFd8

Trust me, studded wouldn't have helped, so a poxy winter tyre would do SFA

I'm not saying a quality winter won't have better grip in sub zero than a summer type, I'm saying they are not needed in the UK, we don't have enough properly cold days to justify them.  And a quality summer tyre will still outperform some of the lower quality winters I've had the misfortune to use in cold weather.

[Doctor Gollum]

You assume that nobody starts work until 9am...

I for one leave the house at around 4:30 am... If it's -10 outside am I to wait until nine to leave?


I trust TB to read this as said rather than being typed as a rant

[aaronjb]

It's always warm outside TBs garage, Al..

 

[TheBoy]

You assume that nobody starts work until 9am...

I for one leave the house at around 4:30 am... If it's -10 outside am I to wait until nine to leave?


I trust TB to read this as said rather than being typed as a rant

I have had to drive mine to work in -18C before, no issues. Granted, I wasn't throwing it into the corners, as there was likely to be a lot of ice...


And there is on one 4:30 a day .  Although on the rare occasions I go into the main office, I have to leave well before 6am

[TheBoy]

It's always warm outside TBs garage, Al..

 

Happens to all Northamptonshire garages. You'll see

[Doctor Gollum]

You assume that nobody starts work until 9am...

I for one leave the house at around 4:30 am... If it's -10 outside am I to wait until nine to leave?


I trust TB to read this as said rather than being typed as a rant

I have had to drive mine to work in -18C before, no issues. Granted, I wasn't throwing it into the corners, as there was likely to be a lot of ice...


And there is on one 4:30 a day .  Although on the rare occasions I go into the main office, I have to leave well before 6am

You're not wrong... It happens 90 minutes before I finish my day shifts