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Title: Might change the Hyundai tomorrow.
Post by: 2boxerdogs on 28 July 2019, 20:50:28
The old Terracan is getting a bit worn round the edges now, so tomorrow going to take a look at a one owner 08 Shogun Diamond LWB got all the bells & whistles full history at local Mitsubishi dealership.
Title: Re: Might change the Hyundai tomorrow.
Post by: dave the builder on 28 July 2019, 21:22:43
The old Terracan is getting a bit worn round the edges now, so tomorrow going to take a look at a one owner 08 Shogun Diamond LWB got all the bells & whistles full history at local Mitsubishi dealership.
:o
didn't you just spend 4 weeks pocket money having the clutch and flywheel replaced  :-\
if you've got too much spare money , buy a boat or get Koi carp in a little garden pond  :P
Title: Re: Might change the Hyundai tomorrow.
Post by: Nick W on 28 July 2019, 21:25:09
The old Terracan is getting a bit worn round the edges now, so tomorrow going to take a look at a one owner 08 Shogun Diamond LWB got all the bells & whistles full history at local Mitsubishi dealership.
:o
didn't you just spend 4 weeks pocket money having the clutch and flywheel replaced  :-\
if you've got too much spare money , buy a boat or get Koi carp in a little garden pond  :P


Owning a Mitsubishi is a cure for wallet over-thickness.
Title: Re: Might change the Hyundai tomorrow.
Post by: STEMO on 28 July 2019, 21:27:37
The old Terracan is getting a bit worn round the edges now, so tomorrow going to take a look at a one owner 08 Shogun Diamond LWB got all the bells & whistles full history at local Mitsubishi dealership.
:o
didn't you just spend 4 weeks pocket money having the clutch and flywheel replaced  :-\
if you've got too much spare money , buy a boat or get Koi carp in a little garden pond  :P


Owning a Mitsubishi is a cure for wallet over-thickness.
I think most cars relieve the symptoms, but some are more effective than others.
Title: Re: Might change the Hyundai tomorrow.
Post by: 2boxerdogs on 29 July 2019, 00:06:05
The old Terracan is getting a bit worn round the edges now, so tomorrow going to take a look at a one owner 08 Shogun Diamond LWB got all the bells & whistles full history at local Mitsubishi dealership.
:o
didn't you just spend 4 weeks pocket money having the clutch and flywheel replaced  :-\
if you've got too much spare money , buy a boat or get Koi carp in a little garden pond  :P
.   



Had it all replaced in April that's correct, but have had enough of towing with a manual,  used a friends Shogun on Wednesday to bring a caravan from  Birmingham back to Norfolk and was very impressed the automatic box was brilliant , plus the diamond model has absolutely everything, if this one's as good as it looks it's time to move on, had the Hyundai for 7 years now so it's had a good run.😎
Title: Re: Might change the Hyundai tomorrow.
Post by: 2boxerdogs on 29 July 2019, 16:42:16
Looked at it didn't bother with a road test simply not up to my standard for a 1 owner vehicle.
Title: Re: Might change the Hyundai tomorrow.
Post by: dave the builder on 29 July 2019, 17:02:25
best to do a lot of research into likely common faults etc and the costs involved before buying something new or newer ,
you test drove your friend's and liked it, test drive a few other makes and models
the in-laws just PXed a santa fe with nothing wrong with it against a Fraud Kuga tractor juice edition  :o
I had the manuals and code reader that worked on the santa fe , I have no ford stuff
so one car less to repair  for me ;D

they have a tin shed they drag about too  :P
Title: Re: Might change the Hyundai tomorrow.
Post by: 2boxerdogs on 29 July 2019, 17:57:04
It had an excellent service history no expense spared, but had not been prepared properly in my opinion by the dealership several scratches & supermarket dents caused by idiots flinging their doors open, one of the alloys was pitted badly so couldn't be bothered negotiating if they can't be bothered doing  their bit properly.
Title: Re: Might change the Hyundai tomorrow.
Post by: TheBoy on 29 July 2019, 18:00:11
Driven no end of 2.8d Shoguns from that sort of era, and they are all clunky poor interior build.  The 2.8 is also a dog.
Title: Re: Might change the Hyundai tomorrow.
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 29 July 2019, 18:30:36
best to do a lot of research into likely common faults etc and the costs involved before buying something new or newer ,


The Shogun has a plastic cam chain guide that have been known to go brittle, break up and wreck the timing gear.  ::)

I think it was a recall where they swapped the plastic guide for a steel one, but best to check if it has been done.  If not I think it is a fairly cheap and easy job to do, as the part costs about £15.  :y

As I recall you can see the guide through the oil filler cap, so have a look when you go and view, and if the guide is plastic then it's a terrible thing that will cost ££££ to sort out!  ;)  :)
Title: Re: Might change the Hyundai tomorrow.
Post by: 2boxerdogs on 29 July 2019, 18:41:26
Driven no end of 2.8d Shoguns from that sort of era, and they are all clunky poor interior build.  The 2.8 is also a dog.
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This is the newer 3.2 model the 2.8s were phased out several years ago.
Title: Re: Might change the Hyundai tomorrow.
Post by: Viral_Jim on 29 July 2019, 21:50:59
Next door neighbour has a black 55 plate he's owned since it was ex demo. Looks smart and tows his burger van well. Claims he's never had any issues with it.

At the other end of the scale I've got an auto terracan you can have for under a grand, new timing belt and everything  :y
Title: Re: Might change the Hyundai tomorrow.
Post by: STEMO on 29 July 2019, 21:53:08
Next door neighbour has a black 55 plate he's owned since it was ex demo. Looks smart and tows his burger van well. Claims he's never had any issues with it.

At the other end of the scale I've got an auto terracan you can have for under a grand, new timing belt and everything  :y
Why you selling, Jimmy?
Title: Re: Might change the Hyundai tomorrow.
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 29 July 2019, 23:07:42
Driven no end of 2.8d Shoguns from that sort of era, and they are all clunky poor interior build.  The 2.8 is also a dog.
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This is the newer 3.2 model the 2.8s were phased out several years ago.
A previous job still runs some newer to new ones, but the security ones they replaced with Hilux last year were '57/'08 with well over 200k on them... Apparently they were pretty reliable, but cost a small fortune to maintain. I suspect that this is due to a combination of Mitsubishi parts prices and really short service intervals.

Not too bad on the road though and they seem better built than a Range Rooney ;)
Title: Re: Might change the Hyundai tomorrow.
Post by: Viral_Jim on 29 July 2019, 23:14:07
Next door neighbour has a black 55 plate he's owned since it was ex demo. Looks smart and tows his burger van well. Claims he's never had any issues with it.

At the other end of the scale I've got an auto terracan you can have for under a grand, new timing belt and everything  :y
Why you selling, Jimmy?

Simply too many cars Ste. We both have a daily/commuter, so then its down to keeping either the Terracan or the Berlingo. Simply put the Berlingo holds more 'stuff' and is £100 a year to tax and not £300. Also, given I haven't done my trailer test I can (legally) tow about the same weight with either car, although its a MUCH nicer experience in the Terracan.

I'll probably lose about £500 on it, but its done 10,000 pretty much trouble free miles, and to my mind neither of those is a bad deal given that the car was a mistake (with Hindsight, it was right at the time). I will definitely miss the old girl and rate them infinitely higher than anything JLR produced at a similar time.  :y
Title: Re: Might change the Hyundai tomorrow.
Post by: Viral_Jim on 29 July 2019, 23:22:39
Not too bad on the road though and they seem better built than a Range Rooney ;)

So in that respect they are like pretty much every other car on the road, and the majority of garden sheds...  ;D
Title: Re: Might change the Hyundai tomorrow.
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 30 July 2019, 00:56:08
 ;D
Title: Re: Might change the Hyundai tomorrow.
Post by: 2boxerdogs on 30 July 2019, 07:56:15
Next door neighbour has a black 55 plate he's owned since it was ex demo. Looks smart and tows his burger van well. Claims he's never had any issues with it.

At the other end of the scale I've got an auto terracan you can have for under a grand, new timing belt and everything  :y
.     

Thanks for the offer but want something newer , always liked the Shogun's & Land cruisers so I think it will be between one of these , just got to wait till I see one that ticks all the boxes.
Title: Re: Might change the Hyundai tomorrow.
Post by: 2boxerdogs on 30 July 2019, 08:47:21
Driven no end of 2.8d Shoguns from that sort of era, and they are all clunky poor interior build.  The 2.8 is also a dog.
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This is the newer 3.2 model the 2.8s were phased out several years ago.
A previous job still runs some newer to new ones, but the security ones they replaced with Hilux last year were '57/'08 with well over 200k on them... Apparently they were pretty reliable, but cost a small fortune to maintain. I suspect that this is due to a combination of Mitsubishi parts prices and really short service intervals.

Not too bad on the road though and they seem better built than a Range Rooney ;)
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This was a 2008 with only 65,000 miles with an excellent service history but unfortunately the bodywork had too many imperfections for my liking ( scratches & supermarket dings) which in my mind made it overpriced they should have attended to those before putting it on the forecourt.
Title: Re: Might change the Hyundai tomorrow.
Post by: aaronjb on 30 July 2019, 09:19:21
This was a 2008 with only 65,000 miles with an excellent service history but unfortunately the bodywork had too many imperfections for my liking ( scratches & supermarket dings) which in my mind made it overpriced they should have attended to those before putting it on the forecourt.

In my (recent) experience, dealers don't bother "preparing" cars anymore; they stick them on the forecourt and hope that someone will buy them without noticing the faults.. if they do notice the faults, they promise to fix them and then hope you won't notice they've half assed it (or not bothered at all) when you come to pick it up and will take it anyway since you've already paid the deposit, got a lift there, etc...
Title: Re: Might change the Hyundai tomorrow.
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 30 July 2019, 12:40:51
This was a 2008 with only 65,000 miles with an excellent service history but unfortunately the bodywork had too many imperfections for my liking ( scratches & supermarket dings) which in my mind made it overpriced they should have attended to those before putting it on the forecourt.

In my (recent) experience, dealers don't bother "preparing" cars anymore; they stick them on the forecourt and hope that someone will buy them without noticing the faults.. if they do notice the faults, they promise to fix them and then hope you won't notice they've half assed it (or not bothered at all) when you come to pick it up and will take it anyway since you've already paid the deposit, got a lift there, etc...


In my experience car dealers have absolutely no interest in selling cars.The primary interest being the sale of extended warranties and overpriced 'add ons'.....such as alloy wheel  cover and interior stain cover. All crap. All virtually worthless. :-\
Title: Re: Might change the Hyundai tomorrow.
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 30 July 2019, 12:48:30
.......and of course leading the customer down the road marked PCP.
Title: Re: Might change the Hyundai tomorrow.
Post by: Viral_Jim on 30 July 2019, 12:58:23
Next door neighbour has a black 55 plate he's owned since it was ex demo. Looks smart and tows his burger van well. Claims he's never had any issues with it.

At the other end of the scale I've got an auto terracan you can have for under a grand, new timing belt and everything  :y
.     

Thanks for the offer but want something newer , always liked the Shogun's & Land cruisers so I think it will be between one of these , just got to wait till I see one that ticks all the boxes.


Ha, no worries, the offer was fairly tongue in cheek, I know you're looking for something smart, and mine falls firmly into 'shed' territory.
Title: Re: Might change the Hyundai tomorrow.
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 30 July 2019, 14:28:32
The old Terracan is getting a bit worn round the edges now, so tomorrow going to take a look at a one owner 08 Shogun Diamond LWB got all the bells & whistles full history at local Mitsubishi dealership.
:o
didn't you just spend 4 weeks pocket money having the clutch and flywheel replaced  :-\
if you've got too much spare money , buy a boat or get Koi carp in a little garden pond  :P
.   



Had it all replaced in April that's correct, but have had enough of towing with a manual,  used a friends Shogun on Wednesday to bring a caravan from  Birmingham back to Norfolk and was very impressed the automatic box was brilliant , plus the diamond model has absolutely everything, if this one's as good as it looks it's time to move on, had the Hyundai for 7 years now so it's had a good run.😎


Mr Tilbo.......

1.....What year is your Hyundai?

2......How much do you want for it?

3.......How much did you recently spend on it?

If the figure for number 3 is larger than for number 2 somebody will get a good deal. :y

Title: Re: Might change the Hyundai tomorrow.
Post by: 2boxerdogs on 30 July 2019, 19:18:15
1...2005
2...As much as possible !
3... In the last 12 months £3000
Timing belt etc all new discs & pads 4 new tyres new clutch etc.+ every filter has been replaced car has been maintained regardless of cost.
Just to make it clear that the Terracan is not for sale will probably just px it when I find the right vehicle top book price is £1375. Mileage is 85,000
Title: Re: Might change the Hyundai tomorrow.
Post by: 2boxerdogs on 30 July 2019, 19:24:57
This was a 2008 with only 65,000 miles with an excellent service history but unfortunately the bodywork had too many imperfections for my liking ( scratches & supermarket dings) which in my mind made it overpriced they should have attended to those before putting it on the forecourt.

In my (recent) experience, dealers don't bother "preparing" cars anymore; they stick them on the forecourt and hope that someone will buy them without noticing the faults.. if they do notice the faults, they promise to fix them and then hope you won't notice they've half assed it (or not bothered at all) when you come to pick it up and will take it anyway since you've already paid the deposit, got a lift there, etc...



These are the exact same thoughts I have, unless the car meets my standard at the time of viewing I just walk away.
Title: Re: Might change the Hyundai tomorrow.
Post by: dave the builder on 30 July 2019, 20:35:17
1...2005
2...As much as possible !
3... In the last 12 months £3000
Timing belt etc all new discs & pads 4 new tyres new clutch etc.+ every filter has been replaced car has been maintained regardless of cost.
Just to make it clear that the Terracan is not for sale will probably just px it when I find the right vehicle top book price is £1375. Mileage is 85,000
Sounds like a keeper  ::)

Title: Re: Might change the Hyundai tomorrow.
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 31 July 2019, 11:05:54
1...2005
2...As much as possible !
3... In the last 12 months £3000
Timing belt etc all new discs & pads 4 new tyres new clutch etc.+ every filter has been replaced car has been maintained regardless of cost.
Just to make it clear that the Terracan is not for sale will probably just px it when I find the right vehicle top book price is £1375. Mileage is 85,000
Sounds like a keeper  ::)


Yep........ :)