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[zirk]

Ive the Following Codes, spanner light on.
0650
2106
1612

3.2, been stood for a while, new battery, fired up first time, no issues, then after a min or 2 starts to stutter, initial thoughts was missfire, restarted, fine then stutter again, go to pull away drops revs, almost like fuel starvation.

Peddle tricked for codes, I think the 0650 may be one of the bulbs is out (airbag?), googled code 2106, comming back as generic, Throttle / Peddle Sender? Is this the case for Omega?

Car now wont start, it does but ticks over low then stalls, any effort on the throttle stalls striaght away. Going to consetrate on this fault first but where to start???, help pleasd.

Code 1612 could be a red herring as batt now low (no flashing Spanner).

[TheBoy]

Not received a status update from TCM for over 10s

[zirk]

Not received a status update from TCM for over 10s

Ok thanks, so what to look for?, plugs / connectors around peddle and TB's, anything else, any part testing I can do?

Anyone had this before, and what was the outcome?

Ta.

[zirk]

Would it be worth swapping over the TB's for a known good one, 3.2 and 2.6 are they the same?

[TheBoy]

Would it be worth swapping over the TB's for a known good one, 3.2 and 2.6 are they the same?

Nothing to do with TB. Its TCM. Is it an auto?

[zirk]

Would it be worth swapping over the TB's for a known good one, 3.2 and 2.6 are they the same?

Nothing to do with TB. Its TCM. Is it an auto?

No 3.2 Manual,

[TheBoy]

Would it be worth swapping over the TB's for a known good one, 3.2 and 2.6 are they the same?

Nothing to do with TB. Its TCM. Is it an auto?

No 3.2 Manual,

Well that's your problem. Find a local Tech2, and set ECU config back to manual

[zirk]

Would it be worth swapping over the TB's for a known good one, 3.2 and 2.6 are they the same?

Nothing to do with TB. Its TCM. Is it an auto?

No 3.2 Manual,

But.... Im trying think,....  did I I borrow the ECU same time back to prove an ECU issue on an Auto? and not put it back, either way it was running fine untill today  .

[zirk]

Would it be worth swapping over the TB's for a known good one, 3.2 and 2.6 are they the same?

Nothing to do with TB. Its TCM. Is it an auto?

No 3.2 Manual,

Well that's your problem. Find a local Tech2, and set ECU config back to manual

I take it you mean Engine ECU, if so thought they were Auto / Manual from a High / Low (Loom) pin on the ECU

[TheBoy]

Would it be worth swapping over the TB's for a known good one, 3.2 and 2.6 are they the same?

Nothing to do with TB. Its TCM. Is it an auto?

No 3.2 Manual,

Well that's your problem. Find a local Tech2, and set ECU config back to manual

I take it you mean Engine ECU, if so thought they were Auto / Manual from a High / Low (Loom) pin on the ECU

Yes, Engine ECU, ie ECM.

Not sure that's the case on the CAN ones. I'd bow to your expertise on that one TBH, regarding the loom mod.

But U2106 is basically it hasn't spoken to the TCM for a few seconds (and presumably it was expecting to).

[zirk]

So, if I borrow ECU (Ring & Trans' Chip) from another Manual that should prove the fault ?

Edit:, actually not too sure about the Loom High Low thing on the 3.2, I know it was the case on the 2.5 and 3.0, so yea, maybe a ECO config, problem is I seem to have gone brain dead today, memory's been erased   

[TheBoy]

yup, ecu swap should prove that

[zirk]

yup, ecu swap should prove that

Ok, Thanks TB, job for tomorrow then as other Car is about 20 miles away. 

I'll post up the results

[serek]

I know sound odd but try disconnect maf sensor
I had 4 or 5 omega 3.2 with same issue
Car start and tick over but won't rev

[zirk]

I know sound odd but try disconnect maf sensor
I had 4 or 5 omega 3.2 with same issue
Car start and tick over but won't rev

Will try that Serek before swapping ECU's

Dziękuję

[zirk]

Ok, just been out again , Sereks suggestion of the Maf was bugging me, so armed with a fully charged battery went back out to play around again.

Its now a non starter, with or without the Maf connected, doesn't want to start, not a sniff, just turns over, Cleared the fault codes, the only one Im getting back now is 0650 (Instrument Bulb?) this particular car (explod) has no SRS/Air Bag Light at all, never has, but has always past the MOT as an advisory (apparently SRS bulb On is a Fail, missing illumination (no bulb) is an advisory), Ive had this before with Ex Plods, something to do with the Fold Flat passenger seat fitted to Plods and Door SRS Seat Sensor?, anyway thats bye the bye, a Police thing maybe, but its not going to effect the starting, so effectively no fault codes.

On the Code 2106 (Autobox TCM fail) ive come to the concussion, that I did swap the ECU years ago for another 3.2 Auto to prove a point and maybe this Code has just stored itself and may or may not have an effect, Ive swapped 3.2 Auto and Manual's ECU in the past and has never been an issue (thats not to say it may bring up a stored code 2106???), all I know for certain is the ECU Mapping is different between the Auto and Manual but not enough to change starting or tickover values   

So, thinking back to basics, Crank Sensor or Fuel Delivery (fuel Pump?) and also not going to rule out faulty ECU (ECM for TB), if it is ECU this could be my 3rd one on a 3.2, or 4th if you include a 2.6 

More test tomorrow then, but heres a question, if the Crank Sensor fails does it still pump fuel?, I really cant remember, Ive had a 2.6 (MY2001) that fairly sure did pump fuel and a 3.2 (MY2002) that didn't, but in both cases a replacement CS cured the problem, and , would a faulty Crank Sensor give a rough running before it fails?, Ive always found they can be intermittent but either start or dont start  .

Bearing in mind no (real) fault codes now, anything else I may have missed or should be looking for?, car by the way is 3.2 Manual, late 2003 Ex Police, that run effortlessly until today 

[Doctor Gollum]

Purple relays? Fuel pump (assuming fuel in the tank)? Fuse 18?

[zirk]

Purple relays? Fuel pump (assuming fuel in the tank)? Fuse 18?

Thanks, must admit that wasn't on my list, yea being an 'Estate' it was low (been there, done that), but now has 3rd tank.  also cant help felling were its been stood for a while poss with low fuel, crap from the bottom of the tank  but its been gradual from ok to worse and now bad as in wont start, again making me think fuel pump 

[Doctor Gollum]

Unless the fuel is really old and jellified, it should burn with a degree of enthusiasm...

[zirk]

Unless the fuel is really old and jellified, it should burn with a degree of enthusiasm...

its been stood for about 8 months, but during that time its had a few short blasts to clear the cobwebs.  .