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[TD]

I don't believe it! 

So, lets have a little guess/competition at what was wrong.....or what the garage diagnosed/changed...

Phone call to the garage went like this...

Me....Its broke
Garage...How is it broke
Me...Its got no power...it will rev ok in neutral....put it in gear and try to pull away it keeps cutting out...push the clutch in and it will rev happily ....let the clutch out and it doesn't want to go....oh and it keeps putting up the display "Engine malfunction"
Garage...Whats its saying outside temp is?
Me....-6C
Garage....Let it idle for 30 mins and then try to drive it to us.....if it still wont behave phone us back and we'll get it lifted.

It did behave after 30mins of idling and I drove it to the garage...

When I got there...Garage boss (who I was speaking to on the phone) said it sounded like..................

But said i'll put it on the code reader to see what its complaining about......fault codes came up....and said "yup just as I suspected, we'll get a new........fitted"

So....any ideas? Its a 1.6TD Mondeo....

[Doctor Gollum]

Outside temperature sender...

Or coolant temperature sender...

[TD]

Outside temperature sender...

Or coolant temperature sender...

Nope.....it was that cold this morning, in coldest Swindon...it was reading nearly 90C on temp gauge when it broke down...nearly 90C is normal for it....

[TheBoy]

MAP

[citroenguy]

MAF, MAP or EGR ? possibly frozen/slushy fuel in the filter?

[STEMO]

Couldn't give the tiniest shite. 

[Sir Tigger KC]

Couldn't give the tiniest shite. 

Prunes are supposed to be good for that! 

[ronnyd]

It,s a Dagenham dustbin, get over it.

[STEMO]

Couldn't give the tiniest shite. 

Prunes are supposed to be good for that! 

Prunes? You're kidding me....right? 

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

Couldn't give the tiniest shite. 

Prunes are supposed to be good for that! 

Prunes? You're kidding me....right? 

Works best when mixed with sprouts and mush peas.

[STEMO]

Couldn't give the tiniest shite. 

Prunes are supposed to be good for that! 

Prunes? You're kidding me....right? 

Works best when mixed with sprouts and mush peas.

I've no doubt it works....but with my predisposition? 

[Doctor Gollum]

Couldn't give the tiniest shite. 

Prunes are supposed to be good for that! 

Prunes? You're kidding me....right? 

Works best when mixed with sprouts and mush peas.

I've no doubt it works....but with my predisposition? 

When summat really grips your shit, it's the only solution 

[TD]

MAF, MAP or EGR ? possibly frozen/slushy fuel in the filter?

Well done that man 

Garage thought it sounded like fuel starvation ...

ECU was complaining of low fuel pressure..

So the Garage thought it was partially clogged fuel filter along with the extreme cold making the diesel a bit thicker than normal....and their idea of letting it idle for 30mins would warm it all up.....the fuel filter is on top of the engine ...

New fuel filter fitted 

[citroenguy]

MAF, MAP or EGR ? possibly frozen/slushy fuel in the filter?

Well done that man 

Garage thought it sounded like fuel starvation ...

ECU was complaining of low fuel pressure..

So the Garage thought it was partially clogged fuel filter along with the extreme cold making the diesel a bit thicker than normal....and their idea of letting it idle for 30mins would warm it all up.....the fuel filter is on top of the engine ...

New fuel filter fitted 

  

[tunnie]

New fuel filter is on my to do list on the VW, now I have VCDS software.

Glad it was a simple fix 

[citroenguy]

New fuel filter is on my to do list on the VW, now I have VCDS software.

Glad it was a simple fix 

Is it necessary to go into the software to change the fuel filter??

[Doctor Gollum]

Wouldn't have that problem if it ran on proper fuel

[biggriffin]

Must have been, some serious water in that fuel, or just crap fuel, to start waxing at such a temperature, diesel nowdays in the northern hemisphere is good to at least -15, before winter additives.
Best start putting a drop of petrol in the tank (old skool rules)

[Marks DTM Calib]

New fuel filter is on my to do list on the VW, now I have VCDS software.

Glad it was a simple fix 

Is it necessary to go into the software to change the fuel filter??

You would hope not!

Should be a change and cycle the ignition 3 times for 30 seconds or so to re-prime the setup, I thought it was only Merc who required random programming for simple changes. 

[Marks DTM Calib]

Must have been, some serious water in that fuel, or just crap fuel, to start waxing at such a temperature, diesel nowdays in the northern hemisphere is good to at least -15, before winter additives.
Best start putting a drop of petrol in the tank (old skool rules)

Its all this cheapo stuff TD keeps getting off his dodgy punters. 

[biggriffin]

Must have been, some serious water in that fuel, or just crap fuel, to start waxing at such a temperature, diesel nowdays in the northern hemisphere is good to at least -15, before winter additives.
Best start putting a drop of petrol in the tank (old skool rules)

Its all this cheapo stuff TD keeps getting off his dodgy punters. 

You mean the bleached red, from that Irish fella.

[Marks DTM Calib]

Must have been, some serious water in that fuel, or just crap fuel, to start waxing at such a temperature, diesel nowdays in the northern hemisphere is good to at least -15, before winter additives.
Best start putting a drop of petrol in the tank (old skool rules)

Its all this cheapo stuff TD keeps getting off his dodgy punters. 

You mean the bleached red, from that Irish fella.

Or the stuff some bloke recovered from a Milford Haven beach some years ago.

[tunnie]

New fuel filter is on my to do list on the VW, now I have VCDS software.

Glad it was a simple fix 

Is it necessary to go into the software to change the fuel filter??

You would hope not!

Should be a change and cycle the ignition 3 times for 30 seconds or so to re-prime the setup, I thought it was only Merc who required random programming for simple changes. 

VCDS triggers the prime cycle for the fuel pump/filter, so gets rid of the air. Forums suggest the ignition method was not advised on the later TDI's

Also need VCDS to put rear electric hand brake in service mode, so you can change the pads.

[Marks DTM Calib]

New fuel filter is on my to do list on the VW, now I have VCDS software.

Glad it was a simple fix 

Is it necessary to go into the software to change the fuel filter??

You would hope not!

Should be a change and cycle the ignition 3 times for 30 seconds or so to re-prime the setup, I thought it was only Merc who required random programming for simple changes. 

VCDS triggers the prime cycle for the fuel pump/filter, so gets rid of the air. Forums suggest the ignition method was not advised on the later TDI's

Also need VCDS to put rear electric hand brake in service mode, so you can change the pads.

Shite.design.com 

[Nick W]

New fuel filter is on my to do list on the VW, now I have VCDS software.

Glad it was a simple fix 

Is it necessary to go into the software to change the fuel filter??

You would hope not!

Should be a change and cycle the ignition 3 times for 30 seconds or so to re-prime the setup, I thought it was only Merc who required random programming for simple changes. 

BMW have done that for years too, battery changes on the 7-series for example.

[tunnie]

New fuel filter is on my to do list on the VW, now I have VCDS software.

Glad it was a simple fix 

Is it necessary to go into the software to change the fuel filter??

You would hope not!

Should be a change and cycle the ignition 3 times for 30 seconds or so to re-prime the setup, I thought it was only Merc who required random programming for simple changes. 

VCDS triggers the prime cycle for the fuel pump/filter, so gets rid of the air. Forums suggest the ignition method was not advised on the later TDI's

Also need VCDS to put rear electric hand brake in service mode, so you can change the pads.

Shite.design.com 

Perhaps from DIY work point of view, but when I considered the Insignia that had a shite.design.com/interior 

[Marks DTM Calib]

New fuel filter is on my to do list on the VW, now I have VCDS software.

Glad it was a simple fix 

Is it necessary to go into the software to change the fuel filter??

You would hope not!

Should be a change and cycle the ignition 3 times for 30 seconds or so to re-prime the setup, I thought it was only Merc who required random programming for simple changes. 

VCDS triggers the prime cycle for the fuel pump/filter, so gets rid of the air. Forums suggest the ignition method was not advised on the later TDI's

Also need VCDS to put rear electric hand brake in service mode, so you can change the pads.

Shite.design.com 

Perhaps from DIY work point of view, but when I considered the Insignia that had a shite.design.com/interior 

#mostirrelevantstatementever

[Doctor Gollum]

 

Would certainly rather sit in an Insignia than drive a VW

[Andy H]

New fuel filter is on my to do list on the VW, now I have VCDS software.

Glad it was a simple fix 

Have you tried a full scan yet?

[tunnie]

New fuel filter is on my to do list on the VW, now I have VCDS software.

Glad it was a simple fix 

Have you tried a full scan yet?

Yes, everything works. Took a scan few weeks ago, will take another one soon.

Just setting a laptop up with VCDS so I can keep an eye DPF, after about 3,000 miles it was fine, just 0.008g in there, having done a cycle fairly recently. Interested to see how quickly it builds up

[tunnie]

New fuel filter is on my to do list on the VW, now I have VCDS software.

Glad it was a simple fix 

Is it necessary to go into the software to change the fuel filter??

You would hope not!

Should be a change and cycle the ignition 3 times for 30 seconds or so to re-prime the setup, I thought it was only Merc who required random programming for simple changes. 

VCDS triggers the prime cycle for the fuel pump/filter, so gets rid of the air. Forums suggest the ignition method was not advised on the later TDI's

Also need VCDS to put rear electric hand brake in service mode, so you can change the pads.

Shite.design.com 

Perhaps from DIY work point of view, but when I considered the Insignia that had a shite.design.com/interior 

#mostirrelevantstatementever

Is it?

I'd change a fuel filter about once every 2 years, so having do press a couple of buttons on a computer afterwards is no hard ship.

Sitting in the interior of the god-awful sack of shite that is the Insignia every day, I am quite happy to do that tiny bit of extra work on the filter.

I tried to like the Insignia, I really, really did. Huge resources here for support, GM, trade links I already have etc. I really, really tried to like it. Head said get one...

Only one issue, it's a faking horrible shite box with terrible interior, terrible looks... there is nothing to like about it.

VW on other hand is such a nice place to be, seats far, far more supportive. Dash does not rattle and made of wheelie bin plastics. VW feels so much better made (is it? dunno, but feels it)

Also CC's fairly rare, even more rare soon VW stopped producing them.

[Marks DTM Calib]

Yes it is, totally and utterly (and you know it really!  ).

One is an opinion on a cars interior, the other is a fact about the basic design of a system such that the competent DIYer and independent garage can no longer do such basics as pad change and fuel filter change without computer kit.

I mean, a filter change!

[Migv6 le Frog Fan]

I fully agree with Tunnie, re the Insignificant. Its a hideous contraption. How the VX brand has fallen to the depths it has is a sad state of affairs. 

[aaronjb]

Yes it is, totally and utterly (and you know it really!  ).

One is an opinion on a cars interior, the other is a fact about the basic design of a system such that the competent DIYer and independent garage can no longer do such basics as pad change and fuel filter change without computer kit.

I mean, a filter change!

It's only poor design if the design does not meet the manufacturers intent.. and I doubt their intent was to let anyone DIY anything on any of their cars, ever, if at all possible, so that their dealers can collect the revenue and they the revenue for genuine parts.  I'm sure they'd also rather indies disappear, along with the DIYer..

So, given that, surely it's very good design.

[tunnie]

Yes it is, totally and utterly (and you know it really!  ).

One is an opinion on a cars interior, the other is a fact about the basic design of a system such that the competent DIYer and independent garage can no longer do such basics as pad change and fuel filter change without computer kit.

I mean, a filter change!

Don't forget rear brake pad change!   

[Andy H]

New fuel filter is on my to do list on the VW, now I have VCDS software.

Glad it was a simple fix 

Have you tried a full scan yet?

Yes, everything works. Took a scan few weeks ago, will take another one soon.

Just setting a laptop up with VCDS so I can keep an eye DPF, after about 3,000 miles it was fine, just 0.008g in there, having done a cycle fairly recently. Interested to see how quickly it builds up

I was wondering if it had turned up any modules that you weren't expecting?

[tunnie]

New fuel filter is on my to do list on the VW, now I have VCDS software.

Glad it was a simple fix 

Have you tried a full scan yet?

Yes, everything works. Took a scan few weeks ago, will take another one soon.

Just setting a laptop up with VCDS so I can keep an eye DPF, after about 3,000 miles it was fine, just 0.008g in there, having done a cycle fairly recently. Interested to see how quickly it builds up

I was wondering if it had turned up any modules that you weren't expecting?

How so? It all appears as it would, took me a while to dive into certin modules to get DPF data.

I've not really done as much as I wanted, only 30 min play some time ago. But as I'm setting up a laptop for it now as well, intend to be able to check more often, such as when I arrive at work or popout at lunch time.

[Andy H]

A full scan checks every possible (probable?) address and waits for it to time out before moving on to the next one so it takes ages.

If you have a car with a long options list it might turn up some option you weren't aware had been fitted.

[TheBoy]

Having driven a basic, (underpowered - 130bhp) 2.0CDTi to the South of France 3 or 4 years ago, I'd have to say its not that bad a place to be over distance.  Its far more comfortable then it initially appears. It was economical enough, despite trying to keep up with my mate's ash tree Morgan, and handled as well as could be expected - right up until it ran out of pads about 700 miles in  , when I then had to behave, until we could get some pads shipped over.  No silly tools needed to change the pads either - saving us a fortune in what would otherwise be an Opel dealer job if GM were as daft as VAG. Stupidly economical as well - averaged mid 50's, despite the constant ragging it got, and the windy roads at the foot of the Pyrenees are hardy the most economical to start with.

My only complaints were poor rearward visibility and it was quite small in the cabin and boot.


Would I buy one? Probably not...  ...unless it was really cheap. Its a good enough car, just FWD, with all the FWS flaws.  But I'd have one over a 2l Passat any day - VAG's 2.0 diesel was such a step backwards over their previous, and quite good in its day, 1.9TDi

[TD]

Must have been, some serious water in that fuel, or just crap fuel, to start waxing at such a temperature, diesel nowdays in the northern hemisphere is good to at least -15, before winter additives.
Best start putting a drop of petrol in the tank (old skool rules)

Its all this cheapo stuff TD keeps getting off his dodgy punters. 

You mean the bleached red, from that Irish fella.

Or the stuff some bloke recovered from a Milford Haven beach some years ago.

Nope it only gets the good stuff.....or whatever Tesco/Asda/Apple Green/Sainsbury/etc sell 

Tho its probably its first fuel filter change......and its nearly done 150k now, so probably needed a new one 

Since ive got it back.....Ive noticed two things...

Its idle is nice and smooth....was a bit 'lumpy' for the last few months

And its seems to have gained some extra 'oomph'......definitely up on power 

[TD]

Also apart form a quick read of the codes......no 'clever' software need for mine....

Fuel filter changed....and what looked like a vacuum pump hooked up the fuel filter....couple of pumps on it....pump taken off and another pipe re attached .....mechanic turned the key and it burst into life 

[Doctor Gollum]

Also apart form a quick read of the codes......no 'clever' software need for mine....

Fuel filter changed....and what looked like a vacuum pump hooked up the fuel filter....couple of pumps on it....pump taken off and another pipe re attached .....mechanic turned the key and it burst into life 

Those Ford Tds either bleed perfectly at the first attempt, or they're a complete shit... No middle ground.

[citroenguy]

On Peugeots and Citroëns there is always a bladder or button pump there  ,so no worries

[tunnie]

A full scan checks every possible (probable?) address and waits for it to time out before moving on to the next one so it takes ages.

If you have a car with a long options list it might turn up some option you weren't aware had been fitted.

Mine appears to have most things enabled, which were tweaks a few years before. Looking here:

http://wiki.ross-tech.com/wiki/index.php/VW_Passat_(36)_Tweaks

There is not much I can enable, also I checked with VW and got the full factory spec order