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[Doctor Gollum]

Check out @DaveRamsey’s Tweet: https://twitter.com/DaveRamsey/status/1072156609202307075?s=09

Couldn't imagine any company that I have worked for doing anything like this...

Best Christmas work surprise that I have seen was a signed card from the CEO containing a £25 M+S voucher, a six pack of beer and an early shoot

[Andy B]

Not so much a tin of Beanz .....

[TheBoy]

I had to let Mr Angry out to play this morning.  It was a necessary evil to focus some minds to stop wanking about with irrevelant sideshows and dealing with the real issues in hand.

But they are all from Ipswich, so I expect their focus to be shortlived.

[Nick W]

I had to let Mr Angry out to play this morning.  It was a necessary evil to focus some minds to stop wanking about with irrevelant sideshows and dealing with the real issues in hand.

But they are all from Ipswich, so I expect their focus to be shortlived.

Good for you.


So where are you putting the christmas tree? 

[STEMO]

I had to let Mr Angry out to play this morning.  It was a necessary evil to focus some minds to stop wanking about with irrevelant sideshows and dealing with the real issues in hand.

But they are all from Ipswich, so I expect their focus to be shortlived.

Good for you.


So where are you putting the christmas tree? 

I know where the tractor boys would like to shove put the Christmas tree. 

[TheBoy]

So where are you putting the christmas tree? 

Working for a large corporation that positively goes in for positive discrimination, we are not allowed Christmas Trees for fear of upsetting other religions and beliefs.

[iansoutham]

Well, we are having our Christmas hampers from our owner tomorrow (over 400 staff) paid directly from his own pocket if that helps??

[Doctor Gollum]

Well, we are having our Christmas hampers from our owner tomorrow (over 400 staff) paid directly from his own pocket if that helps??

Not a bad effort 

[biggriffin]

We might get a sweet from the Christmas quality street tin .. Christmas box was withdrawn 8years ago due to tough trading conditions,, (nothing to do with a new director)

[Lazydocker]

So where are you putting the christmas tree? 

Working for a large corporation that positively goes in for positive discrimination, we are not allowed Christmas Trees for fear of upsetting other religions and beliefs.

I call bullshit on that - as there is a bloody great big tree on the tower at Adastral Park

[Nick W]

So where are you putting the christmas tree? 

Working for a large corporation that positively goes in for positive discrimination, we are not allowed Christmas Trees for fear of upsetting other religions and beliefs.

My sister works for an Indian company, who have no problems with Christmas celebrations for their staff. Or Diwali for themselves.

[78bex]

From my new employer, one of the largest  global aerospace & defence companies in the US;  I got a "Happy Holidays " card emailed to me 
 There were just 2 versions available & the other one was in Spanish

Let me wish everyone on OOF a "Merry Christmas " 
      Fade to music & take it away Jose Feliciano
                  https://youtu.be/c3hVoG2qiyM

 

[Doctor Gollum]

So where are you putting the christmas tree? 

Working for a large corporation that positively goes in for positive discrimination, we are not allowed Christmas Trees for fear of upsetting other religions and beliefs.

I call bullshit on that - as there is a bloody great big tree on the tower at Adastral Park

TB is positively not allowed a tree as there's no limit to who he might hang from it

[Sir Tigger KC]

Can we have the Christmas smilies please? 

[Lazydocker]

So where are you putting the christmas tree? 

Working for a large corporation that positively goes in for positive discrimination, we are not allowed Christmas Trees for fear of upsetting other religions and beliefs.

I call bullshit on that - as there is a bloody great big tree on the tower at Adastral Park

TB is positively not allowed a tree as there's no limit to who he might hang from it

That’s far more likely 

[TheBoy]

So where are you putting the christmas tree? 

Working for a large corporation that positively goes in for positive discrimination, we are not allowed Christmas Trees for fear of upsetting other religions and beliefs.

I call bullshit on that - as there is a bloody great big tree on the tower at Adastral Park

That's in Suffolk, therefore normal rules don't apply...   ...even more so from that side on the Orwell.

Ask anybody who has been there will confirm you can only work there if your sister is your wife.


But seriously, its not those of other faiths who complain, its the pointless, waste of space, useless knobjockeys who have nothing better to do.

[omegod]

Spent time with a patient who I think will be dead within a month such is their hopeless addiction to IV drugs, been working with these people for over 20 yrs and I very rarely get upset but for some reason this one got through my defences,   

Hey Ho

[tunnie]

Luckily, Sky like a few big tree's about the place:



They also decided to build as a perk, Europes largest out door ice rink 

[Lazydocker]

So where are you putting the christmas tree? 

Working for a large corporation that positively goes in for positive discrimination, we are not allowed Christmas Trees for fear of upsetting other religions and beliefs.

I call bullshit on that - as there is a bloody great big tree on the tower at Adastral Park

That's in Suffolk, therefore normal rules don't apply...   ...even more so from that side on the Orwell.

Ask anybody who has been there will confirm you can only work there if your sister is your wife.


But seriously, its not those of other faiths who complain, its the pointless, waste of space, useless knobjockeys who have nothing better to do.

Isn’t it always?

[Mister Rog]

Can we have the Christmas smilies please? 

        

We're well into December. I think they're allowed

[Rods2]

So where are you putting the christmas tree? 

Working for a large corporation that positively goes in for positive discrimination, we are not allowed Christmas Trees for fear of upsetting other religions and beliefs.

I call bullshit on that - as there is a bloody great big tree on the tower at Adastral Park

TB is positively not allowed a tree as there's no limit to who he might hang from it

TB with a real tree with real candles, what could possibly go wrong?

[aaronjb]

They also decided to build as a perk, Europes largest out door ice rink 

If I worked there, they'd have to be OK with me being off work for a while with a broken ankle..

I see Sky were also in the news today because they are axing the Sky Cycling team next year..

[Gaffers]

What did I do at work today?  I hired my first employee. 

S#!ts getting serious now.

[aaronjb]

Let me know when you're paying six figures, Matt  

[Gaffers]

Let me know when you're paying six figures, Matt  

To the right candidate I already can.  It all depends on how much I think you can earn so you would need to be an experienced CISO for that money 

[aaronjb]

Let me rephrase then .. let me know when you're paying that for non C-level staff 

And apologies if it came across as dismissive earlier, though I don't think you took it that way anyway - it wasn't meant to be Congrats on the milestone!

[edit] And I don't think you'd get a CISO on £100k, even in the UK? Maybe I'm wrong.. I suspect [redacted] might have been paying theirs around that level, based on my conversations during interview (for the role under him)

[Gaffers]

Ta

I know you well enough to have interpreted that in the way it was intended   And I agree, a CISO will be anywhere from 120-180k at the moment.  DPO roles are a lot easier but also commanding near or at 6 figures in many circles.  I, of course, pay myself a pitance in the vague hope of having success one day but yes the milestone is an important one.  Especially as the new hire has the exact mindset I need to help me grow the business.

[Doctor Gollum]

Congratulations 

May or may not be your cup off tea, but have a read of Entreleadership

[aaronjb]

Congratulations 

May or may not be your cup off tea, but have a read of Entreleadership

Our illustrious leader (where I work, not TB ) swears by "Zone to Win" and suggested everyone here read it.


.. I haven't 

[Gaffers]

I still have my original copy of 'Serve to Lead' from Sandhurst, and I lean on my training and experience from there.  Plus this employee is ex Army so I fear we will get on fine.  I'll give it a read but if it is like any of the others I have read there is little on actual leadership but rather more on look at how good I am for taking this risk and having it pay off for me.

I do however lack the commercial experience I need going forward but I will be getting a business/commercial manager as soon as I can afford it as history showed from the French side that this resulted in the average 30-40% annual growth we have today in Frogland.

The first employee is significant because it gives me the momentum to get things going.  It hasn't been easy to find the right person.

[Doctor Gollum]

Indeed, it's as much about being the right employer for the prospective employee as it is the other way around... Even more important for first employee because you're looking for a right hand to help grow your business. 

[aaronjb]

"This time next year, Rodney..." 

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

"This time next year, Rodney..." 

I have this old watch......  a squirt of WD 40 will soon have it going again.

[Lizzie Zoom]

I still have my original copy of 'Serve to Lead' from Sandhurst, and I lean on my training and experience from there.  Plus this employee is ex Army so I fear we will get on fine.  I'll give it a read but if it is like any of the others I have read there is little on actual leadership but rather more on look at how good I am for taking this risk and having it pay off for me.

I do however lack the commercial experience I need going forward but I will be getting a business/commercial manager as soon as I can afford it as history showed from the French side that this resulted in the average 30-40% annual growth we have today in Frogland.

The first employee is significant because it gives me the momentum to get things going.  It hasn't been easy to find the right person.

My old company's directors, senior, middle, and junior management was entirely ex-military and the organisation was run on those grounds.  It was extremely well disciplined and aimed usually to recruit from the military, with a great deal of success.  I coming from a military family fitted right in, and throughout my career I highly valued ex-military personnel when I could recruit them to my team.  Through that I found success and I know if I was recruiting now I would still go down that road. They make the best members of any team, as my ex-Royal Marine son is now also proving in civvie street.

 The one problem is Gaffer there are not enough ex-service personnel around now. The one key thing is that you have the disciplines to take your career forward in the commercial world and you will learn quickly the rules of that game.  It is fairly easy to do that, but the other way round it is not; as you know discipline is a set of skills you do not learn overnight!

[Andy B]

....

 The one problem is Gaffer  .....

agreed ..... 

[Gaffers]

....

 The one problem is Gaffer  .....

agreed ..... 

Haven't you got some cars to turn in to tins of baked beans?

[Gaffers]

I still have my original copy of 'Serve to Lead' from Sandhurst, and I lean on my training and experience from there.  Plus this employee is ex Army so I fear we will get on fine.  I'll give it a read but if it is like any of the others I have read there is little on actual leadership but rather more on look at how good I am for taking this risk and having it pay off for me.

I do however lack the commercial experience I need going forward but I will be getting a business/commercial manager as soon as I can afford it as history showed from the French side that this resulted in the average 30-40% annual growth we have today in Frogland.

The first employee is significant because it gives me the momentum to get things going.  It hasn't been easy to find the right person.

My old company's directors, senior, middle, and junior management was entirely ex-military and the organisation was run on those grounds.  It was extremely well disciplined and aimed usually to recruit from the military, with a great deal of success.  I coming from a military family fitted right in, and throughout my career I highly valued ex-military personnel when I could recruit them to my team.  Through that I found success and I know if I was recruiting now I would still go down that road. They make the best members of any team, as my ex-Royal Marine son is now also proving in civvie street.

 The one problem is Gaffer there are not enough ex-service personnel around now. The one key thing is that you have the disciplines to take your career forward in the commercial world and you will learn quickly the rules of that game.  It is fairly easy to do that, but the other way round it is not; as you know discipline is a set of skills you do not learn overnight!

Military types are very well suited to Cyber security, something about the mindset.  A lot of my peers are training up and getting out to greener pastures, so no disparity of ex-mil types in this field as such.  One of my mates is getting out in 10 months and he may even try for a position with me, we'll see.  He and I have many nights of heavy drinking and nearly getting arrested in several different countries yet it is unclear who is the bad influence on whom.

The biggest problem is not finding business but finding suitably qualified and experienced people.  In france the average growth rate would be at least 10 points higher if we could find more suitable employees to join the team, ex-mil or not.

[aaronjb]

Yup, lots of ex military in security - our ex CISO, now Twitter CISO is ex US Army, IIRC; my SANS GCIH instructor is ex RAF (https://uk.sans.org/instructors/steve-armstrong)

I think being ex military helps in Incident Response roles, too, because your significant other is already used to you grabbing a bag and poking off for a couple of weeks at a moments notice

[Gaffers]

Yup, lots of ex military in security - our ex CISO, now Twitter CISO is ex US Army, IIRC; my SANS GCIH instructor is ex RAF (https://uk.sans.org/instructors/steve-armstrong)

I think being ex military helps in Incident Response roles, too, because your significant other is already used to you grabbing a bag and poking off for a couple of weeks at a moments notice

Yeah like when I was on 24 hours notice to ship out to Lebanon back in 2006?  3 days before the UK side of my wedding......

That went down well.

[aaronjb]

Yeah, see, so she's already used to it 

[2boxerdogs]

Lots of ex military in my job (HMPS) and it's great you know your back is covered when it goes tits up , which it does on a regular basis , only problem now is with the new staff that are being recruited the majority have nil life skills or experience  because standards have been lowered on the government's recruitment drive. It will go badly wrong very soon in a lot of establishments, it's a time bomb just waiting to go. Got three nights from Friday then off till Boxing Day.

[scimmy_man]

It was our Xmas meal today, as we left the office my ex assistant decided to get changed,
in the middle of the office,
top off dress on, jeans removed,
apart from the tits barely contained in the bra so far so good,
then asks me if bare legs or tights pulling her dress up to her waist,
I suggested stockings but none to be had.

she made a happy man feel very old today, I`m almost 3 times her age.

[Lizzie Zoom]

It was our Xmas meal today, as we left the office my ex assistant decided to get changed,
in the middle of the office,
top off dress on, jeans removed,
apart from the tits barely contained in the bra so far so good,
then asks me if bare legs or tights pulling her dress up to her waist,
I suggested stockings but none to be had.

she made a happy man feel very old today, I`m almost 3 times her age.

  lol!  She is after something and it's not your body!

You will learn what after Christmas

[ronnyd]

It was our Xmas meal today, as we left the office my ex assistant decided to get changed,
in the middle of the office,
top off dress on, jeans removed,
apart from the tits barely contained in the bra so far so good,
then asks me if bare legs or tights pulling her dress up to her waist,
I suggested stockings but none to be had.

she made a happy man feel very old today, I`m almost 3 times her age.

Maybe not Lizzie.

[scimmy_man]

ex as in I trained her a couple of years ago, I have had 2 more since,

I seem to end up looking after all the young staff at work, they like my laid back attitude.

[aaronjb]

It was our Xmas meal today, as we left the office my ex assistant decided to get changed,
in the middle of the office,
top off dress on, jeans removed,
apart from the tits barely contained in the bra so far so good,
then asks me if bare legs or tights pulling her dress up to her waist,
I suggested stockings but none to be had.

she made a happy man feel very old today, I`m almost 3 times her age.

  lol!  She is after something and it's not your body!

You will learn what after Christmas

She'll wait till then to put in the sexual harassment claim?

[Doctor Gollum]

Currently spending the day running around in a snow plough...

Which is nice

[Rods2]

Currently spending the day running around in a snow plough...

Which is nice

Nothing like preparing for the weekend's weather.

[Doctor Gollum]

If I get called out, happy days... 

[STEMO]

Currently spending the day running around in a snow plough...

Which is nice

Nothing like preparing for the weekend's weather.

I will, no doubt, be spending Saturday parked up on the M62.

[TheBoy]

I suppose one of these days I really should go into work.

But I really CBA.