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Re: Astra cam belt change; do I need a new crankshaft pulley bolt?
« Reply #30 on: 19 April 2019, 18:31:29 »

Right. I have bought the wrong kit. Silly me. What is my best course now? Return it for a refund and buy elsewhere? Seems quickest. Or try to get my supplier to replace his rotten ktr with the right one. He did ask for car reg. no. and I gave it to him, it appears on his order acknowledgement.
the seller you brought off does not have the correct kit listed on ebay Terry
return for refund if possible
buy local or use MY links
gates kit kp15603xs is correct for z16xep https://www.gatesautocat.com/article/KP15603XS

has a"male" torx crankshaft you wanted

if you are cheaping out and not doing the waterpump i will find another link for you
Yes please.

It's a waste of time changing any of it if you are leaving the water pump,nearly every vauxhall belt failure I've ever seen has been water pump related
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Re: Astra cam belt change; do I need a new crankshaft pulley bolt?
« Reply #31 on: 19 April 2019, 18:35:13 »

Right. I have bought the wrong kit. Silly me. What is my best course now? Return it for a refund and buy elsewhere? Seems quickest. Or try to get my supplier to replace his rotten ktr with the right one. He did ask for car reg. no. and I gave it to him, it appears on his order acknowledgement.
the seller you brought off does not have the correct kit listed on ebay Terry
return for refund if possible
buy local or use MY links
gates kit kp15603xs is correct for z16xep https://www.gatesautocat.com/article/KP15603XS

has a"male" torx crankshaft you wanted

if you are cheaping out and not doing the waterpump i will find another link for you
Yes please.

It's a waste of time changing any of it if you are leaving the water pump,nearly every vauxhall belt failure I've ever seen has been water pump related
the water pump runs off the aux belt on the z16xep same as an omega V6
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Re: Astra cam belt change; do I need a new crankshaft pulley bolt?
« Reply #32 on: 19 April 2019, 18:38:34 »

Right. I have bought the wrong kit. Silly me. What is my best course now? Return it for a refund and buy elsewhere? Seems quickest. Or try to get my supplier to replace his rotten ktr with the right one. He did ask for car reg. no. and I gave it to him, it appears on his order acknowledgement.
the seller you brought off does not have the correct kit listed on ebay Terry
return for refund if possible
buy local or use MY links
gates kit kp15603xs is correct for z16xep https://www.gatesautocat.com/article/KP15603XS

has a"male" torx crankshaft you wanted

if you are cheaping out and not doing the waterpump i will find another link for you
Yes please.

It's a waste of time changing any of it if you are leaving the water pump,nearly every vauxhall belt failure I've ever seen has been water pump related
the water pump runs off the aux belt on the z16xep same as an omega V6

Oops :-[, ok then  :y
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Re: Astra cam belt change; do I need a new crankshaft pulley bolt?
« Reply #33 on: 19 April 2019, 18:40:59 »

Right. I have bought the wrong kit. Silly me. What is my best course now? Return it for a refund and buy elsewhere? Seems quickest. Or try to get my supplier to replace his rotten ktr with the right one. He did ask for car reg. no. and I gave it to him, it appears on his order acknowledgement.
the seller you brought off does not have the correct kit listed on ebay Terry
return for refund if possible
buy local or use MY links
gates kit kp15603xs is correct for z16xep https://www.gatesautocat.com/article/KP15603XS

has a"male" torx crankshaft you wanted

if you are cheaping out and not doing the waterpump i will find another link for you
Yes please.

It's a waste of time changing any of it if you are leaving the water pump,nearly every vauxhall belt failure I've ever seen has been water pump related
the water pump runs off the aux belt on the z16xep same as an omega V6

Oops :-[, ok then  :y

I did a Corsa c 1.4 a couple of days ago so blinkered,that one does have pump in the T belt run :-\
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Re: Astra cam belt change; do I need a new crankshaft pulley bolt?
« Reply #34 on: 19 April 2019, 19:06:29 »

Right. I have bought the wrong kit. Silly me. What is my best course now? Return it for a refund and buy elsewhere? Seems quickest. Or try to get my supplier to replace his rotten ktr with the right one. He did ask for car reg. no. and I gave it to him, it appears on his order acknowledgement.
the seller you brought off does not have the correct kit listed on ebay Terry
return for refund if possible
buy local or use MY links
gates kit kp15603xs is correct for z16xep https://www.gatesautocat.com/article/KP15603XS

has a"male" torx crankshaft you wanted

if you are cheaping out and not doing the waterpump i will find another link for you
Yes please.

It's a waste of time changing any of it if you are leaving the water pump,nearly every vauxhall belt failure I've ever seen has been water pump related
the water pump runs off the aux belt on the z16xep same as an omega V6

Oops :-[, ok then  :y

I did a Corsa c 1.4 a couple of days ago so blinkered,that one does have pump in the T belt run :-\
corsa c 1.4 is a timing chain z14xep  :-\



anyway a link for Terry
I'm  a cheap-skate and will admit it by clicking INA brand £62  ;D


or a gates kit
   gates K015603XS kit £78.61

or buy the complete Gates kit with waterpump

£86.75 Buy it now




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Re: Astra cam belt change; do I need a new crankshaft pulley bolt?
« Reply #35 on: 19 April 2019, 19:50:29 »

Gates belt kit is now £66. Did you say this kit includes th crankshaft pulley bolt?
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Re: Astra cam belt change; do I need a new crankshaft pulley bolt?
« Reply #36 on: 19 April 2019, 20:06:34 »

Gates belt kit is now £66. Did you say this kit includes th crankshaft pulley bolt?
probably ,but I can't confirm for sure  :-\
 because i buy with water pump kit complete

also,
you have other astra 1,6 cars , so why not just buy the complete kit including water pump ,if you don't fit the water pump to this car, it's on the shelf for one of the others and delivery is Express Delivery (Other 24 Hour Courier) with the full kit

if you opt for just the £66 gates belt with rollers says friday Economy Delivery (Hermes Tracked)

but that is your choice  :y
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Re: Astra cam belt change; do I need a new crankshaft pulley bolt?
« Reply #37 on: 19 April 2019, 20:18:22 »

That's interseting
Gates belt kit is now £66. Did you say this kit includes th crankshaft pulley bolt?
probably ,but I can't confirm for sure  :-\
 because i buy with water pump kit complete

also,
you have other astra 1,6 cars , so why not just buy the complete kit including water pump ,if you don't fit the water pump to this car, it's on the shelf for one of the others and delivery is Express Delivery (Other 24 Hour Courier) with the full kit

if you opt for just the £66 gates belt with rollers says friday Economy Delivery (Hermes Tracked)

but that is your choice  :y
That's interesting. Both the INA and the Gates say delivery Thursday or Friday, not good. I will check it out.
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Re: Astra cam belt change; do I need a new crankshaft pulley bolt?
« Reply #38 on: 19 April 2019, 20:19:15 »

Two bank holidays this weekend  ::)
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Re: Astra cam belt change; do I need a new crankshaft pulley bolt?
« Reply #39 on: 19 April 2019, 20:31:29 »

Two bank holidays this weekend  ::)
Yes I know. That's why I planned this job for the weekend. Now I am at a loose end, with the Astra on axle stands and with a jack under the sump, hogging the garage. Might a local factor or Europarts sell me a kit?
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Re: Astra cam belt change; do I need a new crankshaft pulley bolt?
« Reply #40 on: 19 April 2019, 20:36:51 »

Two bank holidays this weekend  ::)
Yes I know. That's why I planned this job for the weekend. Now I am at a loose end, with the Astra on axle stands and with a jack under the sump, hogging the garage. Might a local factor or Europarts sell me a kit?
One would certainly hope so... Being as what they purport to do ;)
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Re: Astra cam belt change; do I need a new crankshaft pulley bolt?
« Reply #41 on: 19 April 2019, 20:44:49 »

belt kit dayco £88 at eurocarshyte minus what ever bull**** discount they have  :y
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Re: Astra cam belt change; do I need a new crankshaft pulley bolt?
« Reply #42 on: 20 April 2019, 17:36:37 »

We progress. New belt and piulleys are fitted, now reassembling. I have twice failed to fit the crankshaft pulley concentric with the crankshaft. Engine runs but rattles. There is a shallowlip on the bottom pulley which sjhould locate in the ring on the crank pulley. Here is the bottom belt pulley, on the end of the crankshaft

and here is the crankshaft pulley

I wonder if the slot cut in the pulley is too narrow to accept the locating tongue. How could that be? Perhaps I have flattened it tightening the bolt earlier. Please advise.
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Re: Astra cam belt change; do I need a new crankshaft pulley bolt?
« Reply #43 on: 20 April 2019, 17:41:27 »

Is the cambelt pulley on the correct way?

Is there a washer missing from the aux pulley hub bolt?

What rattles... The aux pulley or the engine?
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Re: Astra cam belt change; do I need a new crankshaft pulley bolt?
« Reply #44 on: 20 April 2019, 18:13:17 »

if the harmonic damper (crankshaft pulley that runs the aux belt) was not in it's keyed slot when you did it up,it could well have spun ,mullered the ability for the key to locate in the damper now  :-\
(looking at the center hole on the damper looks worn  :o )

go check your spares car for harmonic damper and toothed crankshaft cog ? can't think what it's called  :-[
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