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Title: In the Major Service deep end again
Post by: Lizzie Zoom on 24 September 2018, 18:34:43
I have a 3.2 with individual power packs across 3 spark plugs on each bank. I need urgently one of the rubber sleeves that go on top of each plug.  Anyone get a spare please?

I need that as I did what so many have recommended I should do; carryout my own servicing again to save money away from using the Vx dealer. So I swollowed my pride, and have done what I said I wouldn't do in my "wishbone" post ;D

Trouble is as I was closing up one bank of plugs the rubber sleeve disappeared, and that was after everything that could go wrong did go wrong!!  It started so well with the oil and filter change going ever so smoothly, although the first odd thing or two was that the Allen key I had to use on the sump plug, and the socket on the oil filter housing, was Imperial sizes; never encountered that before on my previous miggies! :D

Anyway, if anyone can send me a spare rubber sleeve please PM for my address and costs. :y

Many thanks :-* ;)
Title: Re: In the Major Service deep end again
Post by: Migv6 le Frog Fan on 24 September 2018, 18:58:51
Where did the rubber sleeve disappear to ? Did it run away ? disappear into the engine bay  ? Im confused.  ??? ;D
Title: Re: In the Major Service deep end again
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 24 September 2018, 19:05:05
Hopefully not into the cylinder!  :-X  ;D
Title: Re: In the Major Service deep end again
Post by: dave the builder on 24 September 2018, 19:30:22
Do you mean the rubber boot that goes on one of the spark plugs (3 stick out the coil pack , black rubber with a spring in ) ?
i've a spare coil pack that i could remove a boot from ,if that is all you need ?
free post for you ,so long as it's your UK address ,not airmail to Malta  ;)
could get it on the mail stage coach Wednesday
unless someone else is quicker or local to you  :-\

I bet Bigron will offer,just to get your UK address ,so he can pay you a late night visit  :-X as you know ,I have an ultra rare star silver 3 omega ,so ,have no need to steal your lovely v̶a̶u̶x̶h̶a̶l̶l̶ ̶p̶i̶n̶k̶ red one  ;)
Title: Re: In the Major Service deep end again
Post by: Lizzie Zoom on 24 September 2018, 19:34:37
Do you mean the rubber boot that goes on one of the spark plugs (3 stick out the coil pack , black rubber with a spring in ) ?
i've a spare coil pack that i could remove a boot from ,if that is all you need ?
free post for you ,so long as it's your UK address ,not airmail to Malta  ;)
could get it on the mail stage coach Wednesday
unless someone else is quicker or local to you  :-\

I bet Bigron will offer,just to get your UK address ,so he can pay you a late night visit  :-X as you know ,I have an ultra rare star silver 3 omega ,so ,have no need to steal your lovely v̶a̶u̶x̶h̶a̶l̶l̶ ̶p̶i̶n̶k̶ red one  ;)


Thanks Dave, you're a star coming to a damsels distress! :D :-* :-* :y

I'll pm my real address ;D ;D ;D

Thanks again  :-* :-* :y
Title: Re: In the Major Service deep end again
Post by: Lizzie Zoom on 24 September 2018, 19:46:45
Where did the rubber sleeve disappear to ? Did it run away ? disappear into the engine bay  ? Im confused.  ??? ;D

Somewhere in the engine bay, but I did have the fuel intake openings covered.

The large rubber 'trumpets' that connect into the front of the plenum were open though.  If it did fall into those, where would it fall to, would it cause any problems, and how do you get to the bottom of those?  I really believe the bloody thing is elsewhere in the engine bay as it should of fallen off downwards towards the sump area, but I am just asking now if the worst has happened.  I ran out of good daylight so had to give up the hunt.  I know from experience how 'things' can end up in the most inaccessible places around a V6 engine!  :o ;D ;)
Title: Re: In the Major Service deep end again
Post by: tigers_gonads on 24 September 2018, 19:48:35
Which side ?
Title: Re: In the Major Service deep end again
Post by: Lizzie Zoom on 24 September 2018, 19:48:45
Hopefully not into the cylinder!  :-X  ;D

No all the fuel intake openings were covered thanks Sir Tigger :y
Title: Re: In the Major Service deep end again
Post by: Lizzie Zoom on 24 September 2018, 19:49:24
Which side ?

Passenger side :y
Title: Re: In the Major Service deep end again
Post by: dave the builder on 24 September 2018, 19:53:12


I'll pm my real address ;D ;D ;D

Thanks again  :-* :-* :y
no worries
got your pm , will pm you when in post  ;)
Title: Re: In the Major Service deep end again
Post by: tigers_gonads on 24 September 2018, 19:53:25
Have a look around the ABS pump and battery  ;)
Title: Re: In the Major Service deep end again
Post by: Migv6 le Frog Fan on 24 September 2018, 19:54:42
If it fell into the trumpets it would just sit harmlessly in the bottom. Only way to get it out would be to remove and turn it upside down.
It will probably turn up sat on the undertray after you have driven a few miles. Most things that get dropped end up there.
Title: Re: In the Major Service deep end again
Post by: dave the builder on 24 September 2018, 19:58:36
trumpets come out to do the cambelt
that sounds wrong  :D
Title: Re: In the Major Service deep end again
Post by: Lizzie Zoom on 24 September 2018, 20:34:00


I'll pm my real address ;D ;D ;D

Thanks again  :-* :-* :y
no worries
got your pm , will pm you when in post  ;)

 :-* :-* 8) :y
Title: Re: In the Major Service deep end again
Post by: Lizzie Zoom on 24 September 2018, 20:36:17
If it fell into the trumpets it would just sit harmlessly in the bottom. Only way to get it out would be to remove and turn it upside down.
It will probably turn up sat on the undertray after you have driven a few miles. Most things that get dropped end up there.

Thanks Mig6, it amazing what I have found when servicing my past Omega,s. Spanners, screwdrivers, nuts, bolts, screws, old can of coke...... ::) ;D ;D ;)
Title: Re: In the Major Service deep end again
Post by: amba on 24 September 2018, 21:09:35
Ebay have set of new if you need them in the future..302464175896
Title: Re: In the Major Service deep end again
Post by: VXL V6 on 24 September 2018, 21:57:34
All the VX oil drain plugs I have seen have been Torx not Alan?
Title: Re: In the Major Service deep end again
Post by: terry paget on 24 September 2018, 22:35:55
All the VX oil drain plugs I have seen have been Torx not Alan?
I had a 2.5 petrol Omega saloon, right hand drive, badged as an Opel, with an external hexagon oil drain plug.
Title: Re: In the Major Service deep end again
Post by: Lizzie Zoom on 24 September 2018, 22:40:34
Ebay have set of new if you need them in the future..302464175896

Thanks amba :-* :y
Title: Re: In the Major Service deep end again
Post by: Lizzie Zoom on 24 September 2018, 22:44:18
All the VX oil drain plugs I have seen have been Torx not Alan?

Indeed, you are right comes to think about it, my other Omega's did.  But today it was the Allen key that worked! :o :y

Believe me it has been a strange bastard day when nothing seemed right!  Am I getting too old for all this; a woman at 65 just shouldn't, but hey ho, I do not like the big garage bills :P :P
Title: Re: In the Major Service deep end again
Post by: amba on 24 September 2018, 22:53:52
Fair play to you,Lizzie,for having a go and just think of all that money you are saving and the certain knowledge that the work is done the way you want it to be  :y

Some days just go like that ..1 step forward and several back ..as long as you get there in the end that's all that matters and is quite satisfying  :)
Title: Re: In the Major Service deep end again
Post by: Lizzie Zoom on 24 September 2018, 22:55:52
...........Whilst on the subject of what I found today that seemed very different to past 3.0 and 2.6. Omega's I have worked on...............

The cable tray over the passenger spark plug bank seemed in the way far more than normal.  In the past I have managed to pull it up and tie it so I can work underneath on the plugs and cam covers, but this model gives me a distinct lack of options. I may want to work on the cam covers, but with this cable tray it is near on impossible without removing it, and dealing with the spark plug right at the rear on the passenger side has caused me very real difficulties. :o

Is there a way you can disconnect the ruddy cable tray and move it away from the area?

Do you know, in all honesty, I wish I had'nt started this today. I'm tired, have a half dismantled top half of the engine - at least I have re-installed the fuel intake assembly -  on a car siting useless in the garage!!! >:( >:(

Who'd be a mechanic eh? ::) ::) ;)

Oh yes, with everything else, almost forgot.  The plug wells were full of oil!!! >:(

Hence my question about getting to the cam covers.

Lord Opti are you interested in a defunct car? ???

 :D :D ;)
Title: Re: In the Major Service deep end again
Post by: Lizzie Zoom on 24 September 2018, 23:16:55
Fair play to you,Lizzie,for having a go and just think of all that money you are saving and the certain knowledge that the work is done the way you want it to be  :y

Some days just go like that ..1 step forward and several back ..as long as you get there in the end that's all that matters and is quite satisfying  :)

Thanks amba, yes usually with every car repair / maintenance I have undertaken in the past on many vehicles all goes well and I get that great boost of satisfaction at the end.  But today, on this Omega, it was all such hard and frustrating work.

The trouble is I have the cam belt and those wishbones to be fitted, which I am certainly NOT doing myself! :D :D :y
Title: Re: In the Major Service deep end again
Post by: VXL V6 on 24 September 2018, 23:26:49

The cable tray over the passenger spark plug bank seemed in the way far more than normal.  In the past I have managed to pull it up and tie it so I can work underneath on the plugs and cam covers, but this model gives me a distinct lack of options. I may want to work on the cam covers, but with this cable tray it is near on impossible without removing it, and dealing with the spark plug right at the rear on the passenger side has caused me very real difficulties. :o

Is there a way you can disconnect the ruddy cable tray and move it away from the area?

Do you know, in all honesty, I wish I had'nt started this today. I'm tired, have a half dismantled top half of the engine - at least I have re-installed the fuel intake assembly -  on a car siting useless in the garage!!! >:( >:(

Who'd be a mechanic eh? ::) ::) ;)

Oh yes, with everything else, almost forgot.  The plug wells were full of oil!!! >:(

Hence my question about getting to the cam covers.

Lord Opti are you interested in a defunct car? ???

 :D :D ;)

I've always fully removed the cable tray when doing anything on that bank, not doing so risks damaging the loom or plugged connections by putting undue strain on them to my mind.
Title: Re: In the Major Service deep end again
Post by: Andy B on 24 September 2018, 23:40:23
....

Do you know, in all honesty, I wish I had'nt started this today. I'm tired, have a half dismantled top half of the engine - at least I have re-installed the fuel intake assembly -  on a car siting useless in the garage!!! >:( >:(

Who'd be a mechanic eh? ::) ::) ;) .....

If it's any consolation, I removed the door mirror of my Merc (which involves removing the door card) to try to sort the folding mirror. It needs a new/another mirror. So my car is sat on my drive till I sort AN Other, Merc want £260 just for the innards  ??? .... so I'll be sorting one from eBay.

And I'm in work tomorrow  :'( :'(
Title: Re: In the Major Service deep end again
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 25 September 2018, 00:19:36
There's a guide for moving the tray...

There more I read the more concerned I get.
Title: Re: In the Major Service deep end again
Post by: Lizzie Zoom on 25 September 2018, 07:07:46


I'll pm my real address ;D ;D ;D

Thanks again  :-* :-* :y
no worries
got your pm , will pm you when in post  ;)

[
Sorry Dave for being bloody cheeky, but I found overnight that another one of those rubber sp sleeves is split. 

Could I be so bold as to ask if you could send two?

Please let me know how much you want for them and I will send you the money.  Please do not be out of pocket on my account! :D :y

Many thanks

Lizzie  :-* :-* :-*
[/quote]
Title: Re: In the Major Service deep end again
Post by: amba on 25 September 2018, 08:40:33
Best advise Lizzie is to remove the entire cable tray,then you will be able to bundle the wires with couple of bits of string and tie them out of the way to bonnet strut or similar that way you then have good access to the 2/4/6 bank.

If you have found oil in the plug wells it sounds like you will be doing the cam cover seals whilst your at it now as pointless just doing plugs with leaky seals.. >:(

Another day and a fresher look should see you in a better frame of mind to get on with things although you will probably need to order the cam cover seals/0 rings and sealant,as doudt Caffyns would stock them all now, so plans may stop for a while.


Bones and belt set would be wise seeking the advise of friendly forum member imho.
Title: Re: In the Major Service deep end again
Post by: VXL V6 on 25 September 2018, 09:48:59
To be honest, if the boots are split due to oil immersion then you usually find the Dispacks aren't much longer for this World. You can get genuine Bosch Dispacks at reasonable prices now - ie. Cheaper than VX trade / trade club discount.
Title: Re: In the Major Service deep end again
Post by: amba on 25 September 2018, 10:25:46
Yes quite true..coils could well be originals and being "oil bathed" does them no good.Lucky you caught them Lizzie before probable misfires and poor running ..or worse.

Available... 382570247720 & 183446810113....might get a deal for the pair as I would be suggesting both sides are done along with both sets of gaskets  if you want to be totally sure :y
Title: Re: In the Major Service deep end again
Post by: VXL V6 on 25 September 2018, 11:33:32
The thing is, for the sake of another £70ish for the passenger bank Dispack when you have just paid out for camcover gaskets etc plus the time to dismantle all the cable tray again to fit it is a no brainer to me. While the Dispack may be fine at the moment, it's life will have been decreased significantly. I only say the above having been through it multiple times.

Obviously the drivers side is a 2 min job with nothing else to dismantle so not a big issue to sort.
Title: Re: In the Major Service deep end again
Post by: terry paget on 25 September 2018, 12:10:59

The cable tray over the passenger spark plug bank seemed in the way far more than normal.  In the past I have managed to pull it up and tie it so I can work underneath on the plugs and cam covers, but this model gives me a distinct lack of options. I may want to work on the cam covers, but with this cable tray it is near on impossible without removing it, and dealing with the spark plug right at the rear on the passenger side has caused me very real difficulties. :o

Is there a way you can disconnect the ruddy cable tray and move it away from the area?

Do you know, in all honesty, I wish I had'nt started this today. I'm tired, have a half dismantled top half of the engine - at least I have re-installed the fuel intake assembly -  on a car siting useless in the garage!!! >:( >:(

Who'd be a mechanic eh? ::) ::) ;)

Oh yes, with everything else, almost forgot.  The plug wells were full of oil!!! >:(

Hence my question about getting to the cam covers.

Lord Opti are you interested in a defunct car? ???

 :D :D ;)

I've always fully removed the cable tray when doing anything on that bank, not doing so risks damaging the loom or plugged connections by putting undue strain on them to my mind.
Good advice. That involves removing the lid of the cable tray and getting all the cables out, then tying them out of the way. Before removing the cables from the tray I recommend noting where they all emerge from the tray, otherwise you will struggle to put them back correctly.
Title: Re: In the Major Service deep end again
Post by: amba on 25 September 2018, 12:23:30
Photo,s on a phone are your friend if you are pulling things apart for the first time,Lizzie.

It is quite obvious though where things go back,but the job is a whole lot easier with the tray and wiring pulled well away.

Do cam cover seals on that side along with ignition coil to be certain  :y
Title: Re: In the Major Service deep end again
Post by: Lizzie Zoom on 25 September 2018, 12:34:16
There's a guide for moving the tray...

There more I read the more concerned I get.

Thanks for those words of encouragement! ::) ::) ;D ;D ;D

You are right though DG; at the moment I am feeling it just can't get any worse.  Fed up and pissed off!! :'( :'( :'(
Title: Re: In the Major Service deep end again
Post by: Lizzie Zoom on 25 September 2018, 12:35:00
To be honest, if the boots are split due to oil immersion then you usually find the Dispacks aren't much longer for this World. You can get genuine Bosch Dispacks at reasonable prices now - ie. Cheaper than VX trade / trade club discount.

Irt is all getting worse!! :'( :'(

But thanks! :y
Title: Re: In the Major Service deep end again
Post by: Lizzie Zoom on 25 September 2018, 12:36:03
Best advise Lizzie is to remove the entire cable tray,then you will be able to bundle the wires with couple of bits of string and tie them out of the way to bonnet strut or similar that way you then have good access to the 2/4/6 bank.

If you have found oil in the plug wells it sounds like you will be doing the cam cover seals whilst your at it now as pointless just doing plugs with leaky seals.. >:(

Another day and a fresher look should see you in a better frame of mind to get on with things although you will probably need to order the cam cover seals/0 rings and sealant,as doudt Caffyns would stock them all now, so plans may stop for a while.


Bones and belt set would be wise seeking the advise of friendly forum member imho.

Thanks amba :y.  Cam cover seals are now £66 from Vx :'( :'(
Title: Re: In the Major Service deep end again
Post by: Lizzie Zoom on 25 September 2018, 12:40:47
Yes quite true..coils could well be originals and being "oil bathed" does them no good.Lucky you caught them Lizzie before probable misfires and poor running ..or worse.

Available... 382570247720 & 183446810113....might get a deal for the pair as I would be suggesting both sides are done along with both sets of gaskets  if you want to be totally sure :y


Indeed, she has been running extremely well with no clue at all of cam cover gasket failure / oil in wells! ;)

The Vx dealer can take the problem on for the tune of £466 all in! :'( :'( :'(  They reckon they may need to disconnect the a/c to remove that pipe across the passenger bank :o :o :o :o

Weighing up options now.

Want to walk away really; why did I start that major service?!!! ::) ::) ::) :P

Title: Re: In the Major Service deep end again
Post by: amba on 25 September 2018, 12:41:15
Does that include the 8# 0 rings and a tube of black goo ?

Tbh Lizzie if they haven't been changed for years they will be well past their due date and if you are genuine about keeping the car then its a small price and they should almost be treated as a service item anyway every 4-5 years.The number of hot/cold cycles the plastic covers get in the cars life I would just do them and move on.

You might be able to get pattern parts cheaper ,and reports on forum do give mixed opinions on quality though.
Title: Re: In the Major Service deep end again
Post by: Lizzie Zoom on 25 September 2018, 12:42:45
The thing is, for the sake of another £70ish for the passenger bank Dispack when you have just paid out for camcover gaskets etc plus the time to dismantle all the cable tray again to fit it is a no brainer to me. While the Dispack may be fine at the moment, it's life will have been decreased significantly. I only say the above having been through it multiple times.

Obviously the drivers side is a 2 min job with nothing else to dismantle so not a big issue to sort.

Thanks VXL V6 :y :y

As I have stated in the other post, now weighing up my options.

There is only so much I physically can do now! :'( :'( :'(
Title: Re: In the Major Service deep end again
Post by: dave the builder on 25 September 2018, 12:43:39
stop being negative,
look at it on a positive note
you'd have spent 1600 ? for wishbones and belt,then get another bill for the missfire etc ,sorting the gaskets
now you can adjust your plans to know everything is good ,breathers,coil packs,belt replaced,wishbones etc and still be under your original budget
plus you will know for sure it has been done and all is good
(my stamped history said plugs changed several times,found out that was bull by spending a little time doing it all myself)
chin up and crack on
Title: Re: In the Major Service deep end again
Post by: amba on 25 September 2018, 12:44:33
You don't need to touch any A/C pipework and they should know that. >:(

Think they are inflating work to justify huge costs...to replace both coil packs is a mornings easy labour at a gentle pace and £150 in parts tops for genuine Bosch OEM parts
Title: Re: In the Major Service deep end again
Post by: Lizzie Zoom on 25 September 2018, 12:52:19
You don't need to touch any A/C pipework and they should know that. >:(

Think they are inflating work to justify huge costs...to replace both coil packs is a mornings easy labour at a gentle pace and £150 in parts tops for genuine Bosch OEM parts
d

..........and Vx dealer want another £400 for labour to fit the already paid for cam belt, belts, water pump, whilst doing the cam cover gaskets ::) ;)
Title: Re: In the Major Service deep end again
Post by: Lizzie Zoom on 25 September 2018, 12:55:01
You don't need to touch any A/C pipework and they should know that. >:(

Think they are inflating work to justify huge costs...to replace both coil packs is a mornings easy labour at a gentle pace and £150 in parts tops for genuine Bosch OEM parts

Thanks amba yet again for your supportive words.  I am going to take a long rest from this for about two days and just wait for the parts being sent kindly by Dave the builder.  I will then decide what I can do :y
Title: Re: In the Major Service deep end again
Post by: amba on 25 September 2018, 13:09:28
Sensible choice.

Trouble is as you have now found out these cars can prove pricey for repairs hence why 2nd hand they are cheap for a lot of car ,and if not regularly maintain you end up facing a big bill .Think what VX would be charging for that all that work using genuine parts and dubious quality labour .

Think Ron amongst other suggested travelling up to see Serek .Perhaps get him to quote you for all that now seems necessary and make a plan /decision

Tbh excluding the timing belt kit and possibly bones all the rest is quite doable and not I’m sure beyond your ability albeit other factors do come into play
Title: Re: In the Major Service deep end again
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 25 September 2018, 15:53:54
Give Nick W a shout.

It will be time and money well spent :y

Not trying to be negative, but phrases like 'complete fuel injection system' and 'service' really don't belong in the same post :-\
Nothing you are discovering is insurmountable, and all standard Omega fare... Usually you hit all of them at 80-120k miles, but yours is obviously there on age... Welcome to the reality of owning an Omega, however shiny.
Title: Re: In the Major Service deep end again
Post by: Lizzie Zoom on 25 September 2018, 16:19:06
Give Nick W a shout.

It will be time and money well spent :y

Not trying to be negative, but phrases like 'complete fuel injection system' and 'service' really don't belong in the same post :-\
Nothing you are discovering is insurmountable, and all standard Omega fare... Usually you hit all of them at 80-120k miles, but yours is obviously there on age... Welcome to the reality of owning an Omega, however shiny.

Yep, and thanks you are right DG :-* :-* :y

I have owned some 4 Omega's, apart from one Omega company vehicle, and know all too well the negatives about their maintenance  But this has proved something else.

Now got plans afoot to remedy the situation 8) 8) :y
Title: Re: In the Major Service deep end again
Post by: Lizzie Zoom on 25 September 2018, 16:27:35
Thanks to you all for your input on this one, it is very, very much appreciated!! :-* :-* :-*

It has helped clear my mind on a day away from the car, which will last until Friday.

After all your input I have now sourced a local highly recommendation garage owner, with a fully fitted unit in Ashford who is a classic car enthusiast; he owns a 25 year old car himself and knows Omega's for the great car they are!

He is coming over to see my car, with the plenum off, on Friday afternoon/ evening after he closes his garage.  He is going to give me a labour only price for everything required, which he has already promised will be nothing like what Vx charge (he even could EXACTLY quote what they were going to charge after I gave him my list!!).  He says he can even collect my non-working car if necessary.

Not counting my chickens yet, and the Forums Serek is still a possiblity, but this guy is very local to me and is a lovely guy to talk to who knows what he is doing.  We shall see :D ;)

Thanks again, I feel a lot happier! 8) 8) 8) :y
Title: Re: In the Major Service deep end again
Post by: ronnyd on 25 September 2018, 18:27:07
If this indy guy works out ok then you will have cracked it Lizzie. I have a real gem in my town and as i can,t work on the Desmond myself he,s saved me a fortune on stealer prices. :y
Title: Re: In the Major Service deep end again
Post by: TheBoy on 25 September 2018, 18:36:32
All the VX oil drain plugs I have seen have been Torx not Alan?
From about 98 onwards they are Torx, with a rubber o-ring. Earlier ones were a traditional bolt and copper washer.
Title: Re: In the Major Service deep end again
Post by: TheBoy on 25 September 2018, 18:37:58
although the first odd thing or two was that the Allen key I had to use on the sump plug, and the socket on the oil filter housing, was Imperial sizes
Which shows whomever normally services your car is slapdash, and used odd parts.
Title: Re: In the Major Service deep end again
Post by: BazaJT on 25 September 2018, 18:48:22
I can relate to where you're coming from Lizzie.For my cam belt I paid DLK to come over and fit it for me.The oil cooler change I did myself[took me 9hrs :o]now I'm on with changing thermostat,coolant temperature sensor and temperature sender unit.4hrs in and I've got the sensor and sender fitted and also the thermostat itself,just have to wrestle with the transfer pipe now :D and then put it all back together again! Cam cover seals I did some while ago and from memory took me 2hrs start to finish.It's all a bit slow and steady for me as while I still enjoy doing such things the aches and pains do get the better of me,hence the time taken,but I do have the V70 to use while the Omega is "down" for repair so no big rush.
Title: Re: In the Major Service deep end again
Post by: Lizzie Zoom on 26 September 2018, 12:43:54
I can relate to where you're coming from Lizzie.For my cam belt I paid DLK to come over and fit it for me.The oil cooler change I did myself[took me 9hrs :o]now I'm on with changing thermostat,coolant temperature sensor and temperature sender unit.4hrs in and I've got the sensor and sender fitted and also the thermostat itself,just have to wrestle with the transfer pipe now :D and then put it all back together again! Cam cover seals I did some while ago and from memory took me 2hrs start to finish.It's all a bit slow and steady for me as while I still enjoy doing such things the aches and pains do get the better of me,hence the time taken,but I do have the V70 to use while the Omega is "down" for repair so no big rush.

Thanks! :-* :-* :y

Well Baza, another day and I was all fresh ready to go.  So I have completed the major service part of my maintenance schedule and fitted back everything apart from the dis packs, as I await the rubber sleeves being very kindly sent by Dave the builder, and of course the plenum.  I have fully cleaned the breathers as well.

Just waiting now for, hopefully, my new found garage man locally to quote for what is required in terms of cam belts, etc, and cam cover gaskets. After reviewing the situation this morning, there IS a lot more in the way over the passenger side bank of the engine on this 3.2 compared to the 3.0's I have replaced cam belts on before; don't know why there should be but the design of the covers is different.

It is such a pity that serek and anyone who could help are so far away from me!! :'( :'(

Anyway resting now!! 8) 8) ;)
Title: Re: In the Major Service deep end again
Post by: aaronjb on 26 September 2018, 12:52:21
It is such a pity that serek and anyone who could help are so far away from me!! :'( :'(

130 miles, assuming you live in the arse end of MaltaKent.. just a little jaunt.
Title: Re: In the Major Service deep end again
Post by: amba on 26 September 2018, 13:15:49
If you want something fixed properly ,the distance is irrelevant if the right man for the job is available and willing. :y

I travelled 250 miles last week to get a 15 year old out of date navigation system fixed.Some may think that's just crazy :D ,but for the right man its only time and a tank of fuel.What the hell :)
Title: Re: In the Major Service deep end again
Post by: Kevin Wood on 26 September 2018, 13:17:21
although the first odd thing or two was that the Allen key I had to use on the sump plug, and the socket on the oil filter housing, was Imperial sizes
Which shows whomever normally services your car is slapdash, and used odd parts.
.. unless it's still a torx. You can always find a size of allen key that fits them - sort of, and while it's on the sump it's difficult to see what you're dealing with .
Title: Re: In the Major Service deep end again
Post by: Lizzie Zoom on 26 September 2018, 13:28:03
If you want something fixed properly ,the distance is irrelevant if the right man for the job is available and willing. :y

I travelled 250 miles last week to get a 15 year old out of date navigation system fixed.Some may think that's just crazy :D ,but for the right man its only time and a tank of fuel.What the hell :)

I agree, but my car is not fit to travel now apart from maybe locally (once I get the dispacks, with the rubber sleeves complete, back on) and could do some serious damage with the cam covers leaking over the (new) plugs, now I have broken the seals that was apparently keeping the oil from frying the electrics!  The local man will even collect the car with his breakdown truck.

So my options are very limited, apart from doing it all myself, but frankly at 65 I have had enough of doing all this 5 spanner work!  20, or even 10 years ago I would have got stuck in, even stripping an engine right down, but physically I am past these complex mechanics now.

Thanks for the valuable input though amba :-* :-* :y
Title: Re: In the Major Service deep end again
Post by: amba on 26 September 2018, 13:44:18
You were driving it last week before you started taking things apart ?

You have only removed the 2/4/6 coil pack...found oil inside the plug wells and then discovered the rubber boots are damaged/lost 1.

Put it back together, as it was before, the rubber seal on the coil pack will stop almost all the oil entering the plug area for the shortish drive to Huntingdon and go from there .Worse case is you knacker and already knackered coil pack surely,or have you taken the cam covers off ?
Title: Re: In the Major Service deep end again
Post by: Migv6 le Frog Fan on 26 September 2018, 13:50:16
When this is all over. Make sure you keep the breathers clean, as this is the cause of all your troubles.  ;)……….apart from the wishbones, obviously.  :D
Title: Re: In the Major Service deep end again
Post by: Lizzie Zoom on 26 September 2018, 15:27:46
You were driving it last week before you started taking things apart ?

You have only removed the 2/4/6 coil pack...found oil inside the plug wells and then discovered the rubber boots are damaged/lost 1.

Put it back together, as it was before, the rubber seal on the coil pack will stop almost all the oil entering the plug area for the shortish drive to Huntingdon and go from there .Worse case is you knacker and already knackered coil pack surely,or have you taken the cam covers off ?

Oh yes amba, the worst I have ever seen out of all my Omega's!! :o :o :o

But she was driving fine but now, with what others have said about frying the dis packs, I am very reluctant to put the dis packs back on knowing there is THE problem.  I just know I could take it 30 minutes up the road and once the oil is hot and running well one of the dis packs could give up.  Then the AA would have to relay back home, all for what.

No, I will see my the garage guy Chris says as he was very knowledgeable and sympathetic towards Omega's and older cars generally; he seemed to understand fully what was required. He would also get it back to his workshop without risking a drive.

But I will make decisions over the next few days.  Serek is over 2+ hours away up some of the busiest roads, and the Dart toll.  But as I said, it is a great shame he is no closer as it would be a no brainer! If fact none of the OOF mobile mechanic friends are close to my part of Kent!! ;)
Title: Re: In the Major Service deep end again
Post by: Nick W on 26 September 2018, 15:48:59

But I will make decisions over the next few days.  Serek is over 2+ hours away up some of the busiest roads, and the Dart toll.  But as I said, it is a great shame he is no closer as it would be a no brainer! If fact none of the OOF mobile mechanic friends are close to my part of Kent!! ;)


You're only twenty minutes away......
Title: Re: In the Major Service deep end again
Post by: Lizzie Zoom on 26 September 2018, 15:49:51
Although after saying all that;  can anyone say how long the existing cam cover gaskets could last in keeping oil out of the plug wells now I have cleaned the breathers?

Is it a viable option to drive the car for 2 hours+ without them 'bursting'? ??? ???

Thanks :-* :-*
Title: Re: In the Major Service deep end again
Post by: Lizzie Zoom on 26 September 2018, 15:51:02

But I will make decisions over the next few days.  Serek is over 2+ hours away up some of the busiest roads, and the Dart toll.  But as I said, it is a great shame he is no closer as it would be a no brainer! If fact none of the OOF mobile mechanic friends are close to my part of Kent!! ;)


You're only twenty minutes away......

Are you!  Are you a mobile mechanic?  Didn't know that!! :o :o

I'll PM you :-* :-*
Title: Re: In the Major Service deep end again
Post by: Kevin Wood on 26 September 2018, 15:53:15
I would say they only ever weep quite slowly, so I would think you'd be fine to put it together and drive it to a garage, to be honest. Especially if you've cleared the breathers. Nip up the cam cover bolts to their specified 8nm as well, just in case the leak has been precipitated by one of two of them working loose.

If it hadn't taken months for that oil to build up the plug wells would have overflowed all over the place and the problem would have been very obvious before stripping it down.
Title: Re: In the Major Service deep end again
Post by: Lizzie Zoom on 26 September 2018, 15:55:22
I would say they only ever weep quite slowly, so I would think you'd be fine to put it together and drive it to a garage, to be honest. Especially if you've cleared the breathers. Nip up the cam cover bolts to their specified 8nm as well, just in case the leak has been precipitated by one of two of them working loose.

If it hadn't taken months for that oil to build up the plug wells would have overflowed all over the place and the problem would have been very obvious before stripping it down.

Thanks Kevin, that is very reassuring :-* :-* :y
Title: Re: In the Major Service deep end again
Post by: amba on 26 September 2018, 16:16:32
Oil only lightly seeps from the joint of cover and head,and as said if leak was major you would know it well before now as would be oil everywhere and smell like a kebab shop .

You have little to loose now as they need replacing but a few hours drive on even the M25 isn't going to make them any worse imho.

NickW is by far the closest and very capable of doing all that you are seeking to an extremely high standard as I can vouch for,so a 40 minute drive to him may be your even better option if he,s offering assistance
Title: Re: In the Major Service deep end again
Post by: Lizzie Zoom on 26 September 2018, 16:23:50
Oil only lightly seeps from the joint of cover and head,and as said if leak was major you would know it well before now as would be oil everywhere and smell like a kebab shop .

You have little to loose now as they need replacing but a few hours drive on even the M25 isn't going to make them any worse imho.

NickW is by far the closest and very capable of doing all that you are seeking to an extremely high standard as I can vouch for,so a 40 minute drive to him may be your even better option if he,s offering assistance

Thanks amba for that :-* :-* 8) :y

As you can see I am now seeking out all my options.  Gone is my swagger and stubbornness, trying to keep everything stamped by my Vx dealer, and with all the genuine Vx parts for all the work secured and awaiting my collection on Friday I can now calmly consider what is best for my Omega. At least I have the parts I wanted!

I am awaiting Nick to PM me on what I have asked, and at just 20 minutes away, so local, he is now a very good option. 8) 8) :y
Title: Re: In the Major Service deep end again
Post by: amba on 26 September 2018, 16:26:13
He will be a better choice than any VX Dealer and you wont be unhappy with his work I assure you :y
Title: Re: In the Major Service deep end again
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 26 September 2018, 16:33:52
Seconded without hesitation :y
Title: Re: In the Major Service deep end again
Post by: Lizzie Zoom on 26 September 2018, 16:41:59
Seconded without hesitation :y

Thanks DG! :-* :y

He now seems to be the man if he will do the work for me :D ;)
Title: Re: In the Major Service deep end again
Post by: Lizzie Zoom on 26 September 2018, 17:42:15
I would say they only ever weep quite slowly, so I would think you'd be fine to put it together and drive it to a garage, to be honest. Especially if you've cleared the breathers. Nip up the cam cover bolts to their specified 8nm as well, just in case the leak has been precipitated by one of two of them working loose.

If it hadn't taken months for that oil to build up the plug wells would have overflowed all over the place and the problem would have been very obvious before stripping it down.

Thanks Kevin, that is very reassuring :-* :-* :y


Just one more thing Kevin, as the rubber sleeves that cover the plugs got soaked inside with oil as I pulled the dis packs off, will they be ok to put back on with just a good wipe as already done?  Should I degrease them anymore to avoid arcing? ??? ???

Thanks ;)
Title: Re: In the Major Service deep end again
Post by: Tick Tock on 26 September 2018, 17:51:26
I would say they only ever weep quite slowly, so I would think you'd be fine to put it together and drive it to a garage, to be honest. Especially if you've cleared the breathers. Nip up the cam cover bolts to their specified 8nm as well, just in case the leak has been precipitated by one of two of them working loose.

If it hadn't taken months for that oil to build up the plug wells would have overflowed all over the place and the problem would have been very obvious before stripping it down.

I'd agree with that, the oil doesn't gush out, so weeping seals shouldn't be a problem if you're only driving a few miles, especially as you've cleaned up the most of the mess anyway.

Contrary to popular belief, oil in the plug wells shouldn't cause any major problems to the engine running, it's just the mess it creates and when it gets really bad it will burn on the manifolds and start to smoke badly - don't ask me how I know! It's more embarrassing than anything else, but leave it long enough (and we're talking extremes here) there is the potential for the oil to combust. If it's not smoking yet, you should be good for a couple of hundred miles.

High tension electrical transformers use oil as a coolant, so it's very rare for it to cause firing problems on an Omega, but water in the plug wells (dripping from the scuttle) is a different matter all together, and that does cause firing problems and ultimately damage. Oil itself won't cause arcing problems.
Title: Re: In the Major Service deep end again
Post by: Lizzie Zoom on 26 September 2018, 17:55:10
I would say they only ever weep quite slowly, so I would think you'd be fine to put it together and drive it to a garage, to be honest. Especially if you've cleared the breathers. Nip up the cam cover bolts to their specified 8nm as well, just in case the leak has been precipitated by one of two of them working loose.

If it hadn't taken months for that oil to build up the plug wells would have overflowed all over the place and the problem would have been very obvious before stripping it down.

I'd agree with that, the oil doesn't gush out, so weeping seals shouldn't be a problem if you're only driving a few miles, especially as you've cleaned up the most of the mess anyway.

Contrary to popular belief, oil in the plug wells shouldn't cause any major problems to the engine running, it's just the mess it creates and when it gets really bad it will burn on the manifolds and start to smoke badly - don't ask me how I know! It's more embarrassing than anything else, but leave it long enough (and we're talking extremes here) there is the potential for the oil to combust. If it's not smoking yet, you should be good for a couple of hundred miles.

High tension electrical transformers use oil as a coolant, so it's very rare for it to cause firing problems on an Omega, but water in the plug wells (dripping from the scuttle) is a different matter all together, and that does cause firing problems and ultimately damage. Oil itself won't cause arcing problems.

Ah right,  that's very reassuring Tick Tock.  Many thanks :-* :-* :-* :y
Title: Re: In the Major Service deep end again
Post by: robson on 27 September 2018, 08:56:46
Lizzie if another pair of hands can help let me know
Ron
Title: Re: In the Major Service deep end again
Post by: Lizzie Zoom on 27 September 2018, 09:32:11
Lizzie if another pair of hands can help let me know
Ron

That's very kind of you Ron. Thanks. :-* :-* :-* :y
Title: Re: In the Major Service deep end again
Post by: Lizzie Zoom on 27 September 2018, 11:43:48
Lizzie if another pair of hands can help let me know
Ron

That's very kind of you Ron. Thanks. :-* :-* :-* :y

I am awaiting a reply to my PM's to Nick W as he is highly recommended and close to our town so I could take it to him for everything that needs doing, that I,can't do now. But I will certainly keep you in mind Ron for offering to help me. That is very kind of you! :-* :-* :-*
Title: Re: In the Major Service deep end again
Post by: Kevin Wood on 27 September 2018, 12:13:01
I would say they only ever weep quite slowly, so I would think you'd be fine to put it together and drive it to a garage, to be honest. Especially if you've cleared the breathers. Nip up the cam cover bolts to their specified 8nm as well, just in case the leak has been precipitated by one of two of them working loose.

If it hadn't taken months for that oil to build up the plug wells would have overflowed all over the place and the problem would have been very obvious before stripping it down.

Thanks Kevin, that is very reassuring :-* :-* :y


Just one more thing Kevin, as the rubber sleeves that cover the plugs got soaked inside with oil as I pulled the dis packs off, will they be ok to put back on with just a good wipe as already done?  Should I degrease them anymore to avoid arcing? ??? ???

Thanks ;)
Yep, just dry them off and re-fit. Give them a wash in some soapy water if you're feeling especially keen.
Title: Re: In the Major Service deep end again
Post by: Lizzie Zoom on 27 September 2018, 12:46:15
I would say they only ever weep quite slowly, so I would think you'd be fine to put it together and drive it to a garage, to be honest. Especially if you've cleared the breathers. Nip up the cam cover bolts to their specified 8nm as well, just in case the leak has been precipitated by one of two of them working loose.

If it hadn't taken months for that oil to build up the plug wells would have overflowed all over the place and the problem would have been very obvious before stripping it down.

Thanks Kevin, that is very reassuring :-* :-* :y


Just one more thing Kevin, as the rubber sleeves that cover the plugs got soaked inside with oil as I pulled the dis packs off, will they be ok to put back on with just a good wipe as already done?  Should I degrease them anymore to avoid arcing? ??? ???

Thanks ;)
Yep, just dry them off and re-fit. Give them a wash in some soapy water if you're feeling especially keen.

Cheers Kevin, will do :-* :y
Title: Re: In the Major Service deep end again
Post by: New POD on 27 September 2018, 21:13:12
There's a guide for moving the tray...

There more I read the more concerned I get.

There's so many great guides, and yet I've not come across that. 

When I did my cam cover gasket, the cable tray was properly in the rather way.
Title: Re: In the Major Service deep end again
Post by: Lizzie Zoom on 27 September 2018, 21:42:25
There's a guide for moving the tray...

There more I read the more concerned I get.

There's so many great guides, and yet I've not come across that. 

When I did my cam cover gasket, the cable tray was properly in the rather way.

Yes, I always found they were on my previous 3.0's, but on my current 3.2 it is even worse.  Even getting to the plugs on that side, especially the rear one is more difficult. :(
Title: Re: In the Major Service deep end again
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 27 September 2018, 22:12:22
There was one, possibly buried in another thread :-\

iirc, it involved dismantling the tray, unplugging it from the body loom and tying what's left to the bonnet strut... complete pita and the as the plugs can be swapped in twenty minutes, a complete waste of effort. ;)
Title: Re: In the Major Service deep end again
Post by: Lizzie Zoom on 28 September 2018, 15:29:30
I have that wonderful feeling of achievement again!!! :D :D :D :D :D

Today I got the sixth new spark plug in, after removing the loom plastic tray, completed the major service, cleaned in washing up liquid the rubber boots (including those kindly sent to me by Dave the builder) and surrounding area to degrease, refitted the dis packs and reassembled the plenum. 

After doubly checking all I turned the ignition on once; all warning lights came up, including engine management and the one with a car and a spanner through it (never seen that one before!) and the engine wouldn't start.  Turned the key again, and again, then she fired up, with a cloud of blue smoke from the rear, obviously from the oil that I couldn't get out of the wells before removing the plugs that then was on the top of the pistons.  She then settled down and all lights, apart from the car with a spanner went out, then after another minute it did as well!!

Given the car a good test drive around Ashford, picking up all the parts required, for the rest of the works schedule, from Caffyn's, and is running very sweetly!! 8) 8) 8) 8) 8)

After a feeling of absolute despair on Monday when I had to walk away from my beloved miggie, with all the great support and spot on advice from everyone who has contributed to this and my other "wishbone" threads, which I appreciate more than you shall ever know, I have gone back to my old (well not so old!!) confident car mechanic self!!

The car is now ready though for a true professional / specialist Omega mechanic to do the cam belts, all belts, water pump, cam cover gaskets, and lower front wishbones / control arms x2!!  And no, I will not reconsider that as I am old enough to know when I should leave it to more experienced others to do what I now cannot (happily) do.  10 years ago, maybe, but not now!

Anyway thanks everyone again, and this is why I returned to the OOF; what a great bunch of people we now have on here!! :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* 8) :y :y
Title: Re: In the Major Service deep end again
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 28 September 2018, 17:10:23
That's good news Lizzie and we all have our 'moments' when projects don't go to plan!  ;)

So don't worry about it!  :y
Title: Re: In the Major Service deep end again
Post by: Lizzie Zoom on 28 September 2018, 17:10:58
That's good news Lizzie and we all have our 'moments' when projects don't go to plan!  ;)

So don't worry about it!  :y

Thanks Sir Tigger! :-* :y

This one certainly had me going that's for sure! :D :D
Title: Re: In the Major Service deep end again
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 28 September 2018, 17:16:25
That's good news Lizzie and we all have our 'moments' when projects don't go to plan!  ;)

So don't worry about it!  :y

Thanks Sir Tigger! :-* :y

This one certainly had me going that's for sure! :D :D

I had one yesterday when I was refitting a bathroom sink.  ::)

Same sink, same place, same screws in the same holes, but could I get it to sit on the pedestal properly and screw it to the wall?  >:(  I walked away in the end as it was going to end up in a thousand pieces!  ::)

I'll have another go at it next week...  ;D
Title: Re: In the Major Service deep end again
Post by: Lizzie Zoom on 28 September 2018, 17:22:23
Well, after all the splendid and very helpful recommendations from you guys, I have made a decision on who will do the full works schedule of cam belt, all belts, water pump, cam cover gaskets and front wishbone / control arms replacement, with me supplying all the genuine GM/Vx parts required:  Serek at Huntingdon!

As some of you made clear he is the man with all the facilities and knowledge of Omega's (I think unlike my local garage man that I was considering) and he quoted the type of price you expected him to, which is very fair and competitive (unlike Vx dealer labour costs now!!)  I just could not ignore his reviews on the OOF and on his website; WOW!!! :D :D 8) :y :y

Thanks again for everyone's help in persuading me to choose this option!  I am a stubborn cow at times, but in the end reality kicks in ::) ::)
Title: Re: In the Major Service deep end again
Post by: Lizzie Zoom on 28 September 2018, 17:23:28
That's good news Lizzie and we all have our 'moments' when projects don't go to plan!  ;)

So don't worry about it!  :y

Thanks Sir Tigger! :-* :y

This one certainly had me going that's for sure! :D :D

I had one yesterday when I was refitting a bathroom sink.  ::)

Same sink, same place, same screws in the same holes, but could I get it to sit on the pedestal properly and screw it to the wall?  >:(  I walked away in the end as it was going to end up in a thousand pieces!  ::)

I'll have another go at it next week...  ;D

Yep, I think that comes with maturity; a recognition that sometimes it is not your day and it is best to walk away.  Then return to the job another day, when like me this week, everything goes right again :D ;)
Title: Re: In the Major Service deep end again
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 28 September 2018, 17:29:17
Well done, Lizzie. :-* :-* :-* :-* :-*
Title: Re: In the Major Service deep end again
Post by: Lizzie Zoom on 28 September 2018, 17:36:12
Well done, Lizzie. :-* :-* :-* :-* :-*

Thanks Opti for all your support :-* :-* :-* 8) :y
Title: Re: In the Major Service deep end again
Post by: amba on 28 September 2018, 18:44:07
Glad to hear car is up and running and you have now made a decision on the work required
Title: Re: In the Major Service deep end again
Post by: Lizzie Zoom on 28 September 2018, 19:32:07
Glad to hear car is up and running and you have now made a decision on the work required

 :y :y
Title: Re: In the Major Service deep end again
Post by: Andy B on 28 September 2018, 19:51:04
I have that wonderful feeling of achievement again!!! :D :D :D :D :D

Today I got the sixth new spark plug in,  ....

6 plugs on an Omega are easy  ::) ::)
To change them on my Smart Roadster you need to remove the back end panels first clicky (https://www.fq101.co.uk/how-to-guides/fortwo-452/panels/350-brabus-rear-removal)  :y :y
Title: Re: In the Major Service deep end again
Post by: BazaJT on 28 September 2018, 20:14:53
Well done for persevering[albeit with a break]and getting done what you have.Must admit I bottled out of doing the timing belt[although I have done the auxiliary belt and cam covers]and paid DLK to come and do that for me.Although I've had no dealings with Serek myself everything I've read about him on here says you've made a very wise choice for someone to do the rest of your work. :y
Title: Re: In the Major Service deep end again
Post by: Lizzie Zoom on 28 September 2018, 20:17:33
Well done for persevering[albeit with a break]and getting done what you have.Must admit I bottled out of doing the timing belt[although I have done the auxiliary belt and cam covers]and paid DLK to come and do that for me.Although I've had no dealings with Serek myself everything I've read about him on here says you've made a very wise choice for someone to do the rest of your work. :y

Yes, thanks Baza :y

I am sleeping easy tonight with the knowledge Serek is doing the rest 8) ;)
Title: Re: In the Major Service deep end again
Post by: Lizzie Zoom on 28 September 2018, 20:22:48
I have that wonderful feeling of achievement again!!! :D :D :D :D :D

Today I got the sixth new spark plug in,  ....

6 plugs on an Omega are easy  ::) ::)
To change them on my Smart Roadster you need to remove the back end panels first clicky (https://www.fq101.co.uk/how-to-guides/fortwo-452/panels/350-brabus-rear-removal)  :y :y

Blimey!! What a palava!!

My nail lady had one of the original type "Smart" cars, and from what she said it was anything but when it needed maintenance.  If I remember correctly the Merc technicians had to virtually dismantle the engine to replace the exhaust, or some such part that on any other car would be easily replaced without taking the car apart.

Yes, my sixth plug, albeit after dismantling a plastic loom holder, was easy to do, like all the other 5 plugs.  Just a shame about the bloody oil!! :o :o :( :y

I always will wonder if car designers ever really consider how their creations can be maintained. I can just imagine what maintenance problems there would have been on the proposed V8 Omega!! :D :D
Title: Re: In the Major Service deep end again
Post by: tunnie on 28 September 2018, 20:33:19
Excellent!

Neither you, the car or your wallet will regret a trip to Serek.

It will leave Huntingdon running better than ever, for the best ever price you could do  :y
Title: Re: In the Major Service deep end again
Post by: Andy B on 28 September 2018, 20:37:48
.....  If I remember correctly the Merc technicians had to virtually dismantle the engine to replace the exhaust, or some such part that on any other car would be easily replaced without taking the car apart.
 ....

There are quite a few jobs that officially require the engine to be lowered (there are some long engine bolts available) some you have to lower the engine, others you can get away without doing so.
Title: Re: In the Major Service deep end again
Post by: Lizzie Zoom on 28 September 2018, 21:11:46
Excellent!

Neither you, the car or your wallet will regret a trip to Serek.

It will leave Huntingdon running better than ever, for the best ever price you could do  :y

Thanks tunnie, I think you are absolutely right :-* :y
Title: Re: In the Major Service deep end again
Post by: Lizzie Zoom on 28 September 2018, 21:13:18
.....  If I remember correctly the Merc technicians had to virtually dismantle the engine to replace the exhaust, or some such part that on any other car would be easily replaced without taking the car apart.
 ....

There are quite a few jobs that officially require the engine to be lowered (there are some long engine bolts available) some you have to lower the engine, others you can get away without doing so.

 :o :o :o  I'm glad I have my Omega Andy ;D ;D ;)
Title: Re: In the Major Service deep end again
Post by: terry paget on 29 September 2018, 12:44:25
I suppose Serek will change 2 wishbones, cam belt, cam cover gaskets and water pump in a morning, easy, and have time for a coffee break and a chat with his customer. JamesV6CDX says I should be able to change a clutch in 4 hours - not me. I like to savour such jobs and take my time. I am forever putting down spanners amd losing them, reassembling things in the wrong order and finding I have bought the wrong parts.
Title: Re: In the Major Service deep end again
Post by: dave the builder on 29 September 2018, 13:07:43
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Title: Re: In the Major Service deep end again
Post by: TheBoy on 29 September 2018, 16:08:26
I had one yesterday when I was refitting a bathroom sink.  ::)

Same sink, same place, same screws in the same holes, but could I get it to sit on the pedestal properly and screw it to the wall?  >:(  I walked away in the end as it was going to end up in a thousand pieces!  ::)

I'll have another go at it next week...  ;D
And you'll find its just goes together when you do. Sometimes, just walking away until tomorrow fixes everything.
Title: Re: In the Major Service deep end again
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 29 September 2018, 17:39:46
I had one yesterday when I was refitting a bathroom sink.  ::)

Same sink, same place, same screws in the same holes, but could I get it to sit on the pedestal properly and screw it to the wall?  >:(  I walked away in the end as it was going to end up in a thousand pieces!  ::)

I'll have another go at it next week...  ;D
And you'll find its just goes together when you do. Sometimes, just walking away until tomorrow fixes everything.

Yes that was my thinking....  ::)
Title: Re: In the Major Service deep end again
Post by: Lizzie Zoom on 29 September 2018, 19:25:52
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Yep, that is me!! ;D ;D :y
Title: Re: In the Major Service deep end again
Post by: Lizzie Zoom on 29 September 2018, 19:28:50
I suppose Serek will change 2 wishbones, cam belt, cam cover gaskets and water pump in a morning, easy, and have time for a coffee break and a chat with his customer. JamesV6CDX says I should be able to change a clutch in 4 hours - not me. I like to savour such jobs and take my time. I am forever putting down spanners amd losing them, reassembling things in the wrong order and finding I have bought the wrong parts.

Serek tells me it will be a long day! :D ;)

It will be for me that's for sure.  I will be setting off at 0500 to get to his garage for 0830.  From down here to there is the dreaded M25 and the Dart crossing.  Setting off one hour later would be disastrous! ::) ::) ;)
Title: Re: In the Major Service deep end again
Post by: Bigron on 29 September 2018, 21:05:48
If you can cross the river before 6 AM, Lizzie, it will be free!  ::) :y

Ron.

P.S. Also free after 10 PM, if you have a REALLY long day!!!
Title: Re: In the Major Service deep end again
Post by: dave the builder on 29 September 2018, 21:12:52
Safe journey
take a few snacks and drinks in case you hit traffic jams  ;)
no speeding on the way home  ;D
Title: Re: In the Major Service deep end again
Post by: terry paget on 30 September 2018, 08:54:36
I suppose Serek will change 2 wishbones, cam belt, cam cover gaskets and water pump in a morning, easy, and have time for a coffee break and a chat with his customer. JamesV6CDX says I should be able to change a clutch in 4 hours - not me. I like to savour such jobs and take my time. I am forever putting down spanners amd losing them, reassembling things in the wrong order and finding I have bought the wrong parts.

Serek tells me it will be a long day! :D ;)

It will be for me that's for sure.  I will be setting off at 0500 to get to his garage for 0830.  From down here to there is the dreaded M25 and the Dart crossing.  Setting off one hour later would be disastrous! ::) ::) ;)
Will you hang around and watch, or explore the town and sit in the library for hours? I am curious how many of those operations can be done simultaneously without conflict. Do let us know. Serek must be very confident, nothing must go wrong and it must be done in the day!
Title: Re: In the Major Service deep end again
Post by: Lizzie Zoom on 30 September 2018, 18:41:14
If you can cross the river before 6 AM, Lizzie, it will be free!  ::) :y

Ron.

P.S. Also free after 10 PM, if you have a REALLY long day!!!

That is true Ron! :y :y

I had forgotten that, and I certainly will have a free crossing at least in one direction 8) 8) :D :y
Title: Re: In the Major Service deep end again
Post by: Lizzie Zoom on 30 September 2018, 18:42:03
Safe journey
take a few snacks and drinks in case you hit traffic jams  ;)
no speeding on the way home  ;D

Thanks Dave.  I never speed now.......... ::) ::) ::) :D ;)
Title: Re: In the Major Service deep end again
Post by: Lizzie Zoom on 30 September 2018, 18:43:15
I suppose Serek will change 2 wishbones, cam belt, cam cover gaskets and water pump in a morning, easy, and have time for a coffee break and a chat with his customer. JamesV6CDX says I should be able to change a clutch in 4 hours - not me. I like to savour such jobs and take my time. I am forever putting down spanners amd losing them, reassembling things in the wrong order and finding I have bought the wrong parts.

Serek tells me it will be a long day! :D ;)

It will be for me that's for sure.  I will be setting off at 0500 to get to his garage for 0830.  From down here to there is the dreaded M25 and the Dart crossing.  Setting off one hour later would be disastrous! ::) ::) ;)
Will you hang around and watch, or explore the town and sit in the library for hours? I am curious how many of those operations can be done simultaneously without conflict. Do let us know. Serek must be very confident, nothing must go wrong and it must be done in the day!

Yes, I will be doing that as without a car................ :o :o :D ;)
Title: Re: In the Major Service deep end again
Post by: Mr Gav on 08 October 2018, 11:46:03
I have that wonderful feeling of achievement again!!! :D :D :D :D :D

Today I got the sixth new spark plug in,  ....

6 plugs on an Omega are easy  ::) ::)
To change them on my Smart Roadster you need to remove the back end panels first clicky (https://www.fq101.co.uk/how-to-guides/fortwo-452/panels/350-brabus-rear-removal)  :y :y

Serves you right for buying a Smart  ;D
Title: Re: In the Major Service deep end again
Post by: Andy B on 14 October 2018, 18:29:23
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Serves you right for buying a Smart  ;D

Not content with one .... I also have a Fortwo too  ;D
Title: Re: In the Major Service deep end again
Post by: Migv6 le Frog Fan on 14 October 2018, 19:51:05
Well, you do need one for each foot.  :y ;D
Title: Re: In the Major Service deep end again
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 14 October 2018, 19:57:37
Well, you do need one for each foot.  :y ;D
That won't work... Andy would then have four pedals to contend with, and we all know he can barely manage two :D