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Title: Cruise control on my Vectra does not work
Post by: terry paget on 06 July 2019, 08:10:11
2008 Vectra 1.8 SRi petrol manual
I bought this car 2 weeks ago. I took it on the M4 yesterday, clicked on the cruise, but nothing happened. I thought on a canbus car with an electonic throttle connection there was nothing that could go wrong with the cruise control. Any suggestions?
Title: Re: Cruise control on my Vectra does not work
Post by: ronnyd on 06 July 2019, 08:24:19
Does the light on dash come on when you depress the button on the stalk?
Title: Re: Cruise control on my Vectra does not work
Post by: terry paget on 06 July 2019, 10:27:45
Does the light on dash come on when you depress the button on the stalk?
No. I did not see it yesterday. Furthermore, it does not come on when I switch on the ignition, as the handbook says it should.
Title: Re: Cruise control on my Vectra does not work
Post by: STEMO on 06 July 2019, 10:42:10
Not helping your problem, but I can't remember the last time any motorway was clear enough for long enough to use cruise control.
Title: Re: Cruise control on my Vectra does not work
Post by: Andy B on 06 July 2019, 10:51:50
Not helping your problem, but I can't remember the last time any motorway was clear enough for long enough to use cruise control.
I frequently set cruise .... most often through speed cameras but I do use it on the motorways when I'm towing.  :y
Title: Re: Cruise control on my Vectra does not work
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 06 July 2019, 11:53:59
Clutch and brake pedal switches working correctly?

Did you read the instructions?

Will need plugging in to establish that it is activated and working...
Title: Re: Cruise control on my Vectra does not work
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 06 July 2019, 12:09:02
Hate cruise. Never use it.
Title: Re: Cruise control on my Vectra does not work
Post by: Andy B on 06 July 2019, 12:28:05
Hate cruise. .....

Why?  :-\ :-\
Title: Re: Cruise control on my Vectra does not work
Post by: henryd on 06 July 2019, 13:05:56
Hate cruise. Never use it.

Me too,not a fan,I only use it on motorway roadwork sections :y
Title: Re: Cruise control on my Vectra does not work
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 06 July 2019, 13:11:13
I'm a big fan and always use it on the motorway.   :y

It's especially useful through roadworks where there are average speed cameras.  :)

I had an old Merc that had a speed limiter and I wish that more cars had them, as that was also useful through roadworks or in areas where camera vans hang out.  :y
Title: Re: Cruise control on my Vectra does not work
Post by: Andy B on 06 July 2019, 13:17:14
I'm a big fan and always use it on the motorway.   :y

It's especially useful through roadworks where there are average speed cameras.  :)

I had an old Merc that had a speed limiter and I wish that more cars had them, as that was also useful through roadworks or in areas where camera vans hang out.  :y

Conversely I'm not keen using the limiter on my Merc  ..... don't like the feeling of nothing as you get to the set max speed  :-\

I've yet to drive a car with adaptive cruise ....
Title: Re: Cruise control on my Vectra does not work
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 06 July 2019, 13:27:37
I'm a big fan and always use it on the motorway.   :y

It's especially useful through roadworks where there are average speed cameras.  :)

I had an old Merc that had a speed limiter and I wish that more cars had them, as that was also useful through roadworks or in areas where camera vans hang out.  :y

My Tata also has one .....which I never use.

I tend to use the fleshy bony thing that has been attached to my ankle since birth. I believe it is called a 'foot' and has enough flexibility of movement to allow both upward (less speed) and downward (more speed) changes. :)



 
Title: Re: Cruise control on my Vectra does not work
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 06 July 2019, 13:44:28
I'm a big fan and always use it on the motorway.   :y

It's especially useful through roadworks where there are average speed cameras.  :)

I had an old Merc that had a speed limiter and I wish that more cars had them, as that was also useful through roadworks or in areas where camera vans hang out.  :y

My Tata also has one .....which I never use.

I tend to use the fleshy bony thing that has been attached to my ankle since birth. I believe it is called a 'foot' and has enough flexibility of movement to allow both upward (less speed) and downward (more speed) changes. :)

 

My fleshy bony thing tends to get a bit heavy at times and the interface with the lump of jelly like ECU at the top can be unreliable!  ::)

Hence I need all the help I can get!  :D
Title: Re: Cruise control on my Vectra does not work
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 06 July 2019, 13:46:12
I'm a big fan and always use it on the motorway.   :y

It's especially useful through roadworks where there are average speed cameras.  :)

I had an old Merc that had a speed limiter and I wish that more cars had them, as that was also useful through roadworks or in areas where camera vans hang out.  :y

My Tata also has one .....which I never use.

I tend to use the fleshy bony thing that has been attached to my ankle since birth. I believe it is called a 'foot' and has enough flexibility of movement to allow both upward (less speed) and downward (more speed) changes. :)

The very same fleshy bony implement can be used for the purpose of walking or kicking the dog up the arse when it shits in the corner. :)



 
Title: Re: Cruise control on my Vectra does not work
Post by: Andy B on 06 July 2019, 13:46:50
.....

My fleshy bony thing tends to get a bit heavy at times and the interface with the lump of jelly like ECU at the top can be unreliable!  ::)

Hence I need all the help I can get!  :D

 ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Cruise control on my Vectra does not work
Post by: Varche on 06 July 2019, 16:58:03
I'm a big fan and always use it on the motorway.   :y

It's especially useful through roadworks where there are average speed cameras.  :)

I had an old Merc that had a speed limiter and I wish that more cars had them, as that was also useful through roadworks or in areas where camera vans hang out.  :y

Conversely I'm not keen using the limiter on my Merc  ..... don't like the feeling of nothing as you get to the set max speed  :-\

I've yet to drive a car with adaptive cruise ....

We have done 11,600 miles so far this year including two trips to Scotland. Cruise is a godsend. You would get a wallet depleting amount of speeding tickets in France.( we only managed one in an 80 that I thought was a 90)

Adaptive cruise is very good but does see vehicles in other lanes on bendy motorways ( same degree on left hand or right hand drive roads). You can always tell when someone is using adapative cruise. They have caught someone up in lane two waiting for a car to go by in lane three. They then pull out neatly into lane three and wait till the adapative bit no longer sees the car in front of them before the acceleration kicks in. No leg cramps. Lane assist makes me smile as it expects you to make periodic corrections. If you don't it gives you a reminder. It is quite a good party trick to do an input just before a bend and then let it steer you handsfree through it. Obviously not me but people on Utube.   
Title: Re: Cruise control on my Vectra does not work
Post by: Shackeng on 06 July 2019, 19:39:25
Hate cruise. Never use it.

I use cruise and the limiter as required all the time on the Mondeo. I find them both extremely useful, especially with the clever way they are programmed. :y
Title: Re: Cruise control on my Vectra does not work
Post by: terry paget on 06 July 2019, 20:39:35
Clutch and brake pedal switches working correctly?

Did you read the instructions?

Will need plugging in to establish that it is activated and working...
Clutch and brake pedal switches working - don't know.
I did not readthe instructions before Friday, saw no reason to, I have cruise on my Omega CDX cars and it worked without instuction. I have subsequently read the instructions in the driver's manual. As said before the symbol below fuel gauge does not illuninate on ignition switch on. Further nothing happened when I pressed the cruise on button while humming along the M4 = worrying.
I can see neither clutch or brake switch so far, I suppose I shall have to remove the panel beneath the steering column.

I plugged in my diagnoser and 3 fault codes came up. P00597-61 and P0014-were unknown DTC.
The third was P0704-05 clutch switch input circuit malfunction.
Please advise.
Title: Re: Cruise control on my Vectra does not work
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 06 July 2019, 20:54:58
Start with the clutch switch :y

From memory, the lower dash panel has three torx screws under the front edge. Might be a hidden one in the light switch hole, but it's been a while since I have had one of those apart... Haynes is your friend for trim removal :y
Title: Re: Cruise control on my Vectra does not work
Post by: terry paget on 06 July 2019, 22:45:01
Start with the clutch switch :y

From memory, the lower dash panel has three torx screws under the front edge. Might be a hidden one in the light switch hole, but it's been a while since I have had one of those apart... Haynes is your friend for trim removal :y
Thanks. I cannot find any mention of the cruise control or the clutch switch in Haynes. I think I have found the facia footwell trim panel removal instructions in 11.29, 7-10. I shall find out in the morning.
Title: Re: Cruise control on my Vectra does not work
Post by: zirk on 06 July 2019, 23:00:28
On the Veccy C's its normally the Stalk switch that starts to become intermittant, normly a quick wringle or hard button pushes can give a temp but limted fix.

Another on these Cars is once the Cruise detects an issues, (Main ECU) it wont work again untill you do an Ing. Restart, assumi,g the stalked wringle did its job.
Title: Re: Cruise control on my Vectra does not work
Post by: TheBoy on 07 July 2019, 10:44:11
Back on topic, check the fuses related to brakes in the passenger side A pillar fuse box. Seeems to be a common fault, judging by the number I've had to look at.
Title: Re: Cruise control on my Vectra does not work
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 07 July 2019, 14:14:38
Start with the clutch switch :y

From memory, the lower dash panel has three torx screws under the front edge. Might be a hidden one in the light switch hole, but it's been a while since I have had one of those apart... Haynes is your friend for trim removal :y
Thanks. I cannot find any mention of the cruise control or the clutch switch in Haynes. I think I have found the facia footwell trim panel removal instructions in 11.29, 7-10. I shall find out in the morning.
What I meant., and thought I had typed was:

1. You have a clutch switch code. Ergo this should be the initial focus of your investigation.

2. From memory how the dash panel comes off, it's a large single piece (same for glovebox). Sounds like you have found the trim removal instructions in Haynes  :y

New Haynes separate body trim from body electrical. Column switch removal will be clearly identified in the electrical section. At least it really should be... (try steering/suspension if it isn't)  ;)
Title: Re: Cruise control on my Vectra does not work
Post by: terry paget on 07 July 2019, 16:12:25
On the Veccy C's its normally the Stalk switch that starts to become intermittant, normly a quick wringle or hard button pushes can give a temp but limted fix.

Another on these Cars is once the Cruise detects an issues, (Main ECU) it wont work again untill you do an Ing. Restart, assumi,g the stalked wringle did its job.
Thanks for suggestion. I have rocked the stalk switch vigorously, switched on ignition, no change. Worth a try though.
Title: Re: Cruise control on my Vectra does not work
Post by: terry paget on 07 July 2019, 16:15:23
Back on topic, check the fuses related to brakes in the passenger side A pillar fuse box. Seeems to be a common fault, judging by the number I've had to look at.
Thanks for the tip TB. I removed the fuses cover, found no spare fuses or fuse removal tool in the cover, interesting. Renoved every fuse in turn with pliers, none blown. Worth checking though. I wonder where on e-bay I can get a box of Vectra miniature fuses with a fuse rmoval tool.
Title: Re: Cruise control on my Vectra does not work
Post by: terry paget on 07 July 2019, 18:34:39
Start with the clutch switch :y

From memory, the lower dash panel has three torx screws under the front edge. Might be a hidden one in the light switch hole, but it's been a while since I have had one of those apart... Haynes is your friend for trim removal :y
Thanks. I cannot find any mention of the cruise control or the clutch switch in Haynes. I think I have found the facia footwell trim panel removal instructions in 11.29, 7-10. I shall find out in the morning.
What I meant., and thought I had typed was:

1. You have a clutch switch code. Ergo this should be the initial focus of your investigation.

2. From memory how the dash panel comes off, it's a large single piece (same for glovebox). Sounds like you have found the trim removal instructions in Haynes  :y

New Haynes separate body trim from body electrical. Column switch removal will be clearly identified in the electrical section. At least it really should be... (try steering/suspension if it isn't)  ;)
Thanks. Driver's side lower trim panel removal is Haynes 11.29, 19 -20. Done that, now I can see the clutch switch.
(https://www.dropbox.com/s/o0aw8ex0uav50n8/clutchSWITCH.27.jpg?dl=1)
Not very accessible, hopefully it will unclip from its bracket. I suppose it doesn't matter if I break it. Next thing to do is obtain a replacement. Vx or e-bay?
Title: Re: Cruise control on my Vectra does not work
Post by: ronnyd on 07 July 2019, 18:36:44
Was cruise standard on the SRI? If not, perhaps the first purchaser didn,t opt for it. :-\
Title: Re: Cruise control on my Vectra does not work
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 07 July 2019, 18:44:36
Red collar should pull down. You should then be able to press in the grey tabs and release the switch straight up :y

Switch should be cheap enough from VX...
Title: Re: Cruise control on my Vectra does not work
Post by: terry paget on 07 July 2019, 19:28:20
Was cruise standard on the SRI? If not, perhaps the first purchaser didn,t opt for it. :-\
I bought the brochures and checked. In the astra range only the Elite model had cruise. In the Vectra range all models have cruise, even the bottom of the range Life. This SRi I purchased was advertised as having cruise control, and it has the cruise switches on the left hand stalk.
Title: Re: Cruise control on my Vectra does not work
Post by: terry paget on 07 July 2019, 19:38:38
Red collar should pull down. You should then be able to press in the grey tabs and release the switch straight up :y

Switch should be cheap enough from VX...
In the photograph the clutch pedal is depressed. With pedal at rest the switch plunger touches the pedal.
I imagine all will become clear when I get the new switch.
Title: Re: Cruise control on my Vectra does not work
Post by: terry paget on 07 July 2019, 20:06:09
The only reference I have found so far in Haynes of cruise control and the clutch switch is the instruction in Clutch 6.5, 18 where it tells me 'where fitted, to refit the clutch switch to the pedal bracket'.

I wonder where else he covers it.
Title: Re: Cruise control on my Vectra does not work
Post by: dave the builder on 07 July 2019, 20:19:29
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Vauxhall-ASTRA-AGILA-CORSA-MERIVA-TIGRA-VECTRA-ZAFIRA-CLUTCH-PEDAL-SWITCH-NEW/173200816137?fits=Car+Make%3AVauxhall%7CModel%3AVectra%7CCars+Type%3A1.8+16V%7CPlat_Gen%3AMK+II%7CCars+Year%3A2008%7CVariant%3AMK+II+%5B2000-2009%5D+Hatchback&epid=7032047618&hash=item285392b809:g:fz8AAOSw9N1an85S (https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Vauxhall-ASTRA-AGILA-CORSA-MERIVA-TIGRA-VECTRA-ZAFIRA-CLUTCH-PEDAL-SWITCH-NEW/173200816137?fits=Car+Make%3AVauxhall%7CModel%3AVectra%7CCars+Type%3A1.8+16V%7CPlat_Gen%3AMK+II%7CCars+Year%3A2008%7CVariant%3AMK+II+%5B2000-2009%5D+Hatchback&epid=7032047618&hash=item285392b809:g:fz8AAOSw9N1an85S)

cheap enough part ,even genuine
Title: Re: Cruise control on my Vectra does not work
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 07 July 2019, 20:24:08
Red collar should pull down. You should then be able to press in the grey tabs and release the switch straight up :y

Switch should be cheap enough from VX...
In the photograph the clutch pedal is depressed. With pedal at rest the switch plunger touches the pedal.
I imagine all will become clear when I get the new switch.
That was the instructions for removing the switch. Pedal position is largely irrelevant, although wedging the pedal down might make life a bit easier :)
Title: Re: Cruise control on my Vectra does not work
Post by: Viral_Jim on 07 July 2019, 23:24:50

I've yet to drive a car with adaptive cruise ....

The milk float has it and for UK commuting, I love it. On motorways I now set it to either 75, or whatever the smart motorway speed limit is +3 mph. It then keeps me a sensible distance from the car Infront at all times and ensures I don't get pinged for speeding.

It's pretty smart on the golf too, if I go to overtake it will start building the speed immediately I indicate, so it's up to the speed of the next lane by the time I  pull out. It also won't undertake unless I dab the throttle to tell it that it can.   :y

It also will do stop start traffic for you and will slow you depending on steering angle, so you don't get catapulted off at the first bend.

It's probably second only to air con now on My list of "features a commuter car should have".
Title: Re: Cruise control on my Vectra does not work
Post by: aaronjb on 08 July 2019, 08:52:10
Yep - loved that on the Skoda in stop-start traffic.. stop behind the traffic automagically, tap the button when they start moving again.

The RRS, on the other hand, makes a big deal in the manual that the adaptive cruise will not come to a complete stop if the traffic in front of you stops .. it just beeps at you ;D ;D
Title: Re: Cruise control on my Vectra does not work
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 08 July 2019, 10:01:08
Yep - loved that on the Skoda in stop-start traffic.. stop behind the traffic automagically, tap the button when they start moving again.

The RRS, on the other hand, makes a big deal in the manual that the adaptive cruise will not come to a complete stop if the traffic in front of you stops .. it just expects everyone to get out of the way! ;D ;D

FTFY Aaron!  :)
Title: Re: Cruise control on my Vectra does not work
Post by: zirk on 08 July 2019, 15:24:12
On the Veccy C's its normally the Stalk switch that starts to become intermittant, normly a quick wringle or hard button pushes can give a temp but limted fix.

Another on these Cars is once the Cruise detects an issues, (Main ECU) it wont work again untill you do an Ing. Restart, assumi,g the stalked wringle did its job.
Thanks for suggestion. I have rocked the stalk switch vigorously, switched on ignition, no change. Worth a try though.
Yep, worth a try, remember the having to do a Ing. Restart, for the future though or if you do end up changing Clutch / Brake switch.

As far vas I can remeber both the Brake and the clutch switch at as a closed loop ie, short cct, for the Cruise to operate so you could probably bypass and the test again to confirm, check with a meter to confirm first though.  :y
Title: Re: Cruise control on my Vectra does not work
Post by: terry paget on 08 July 2019, 17:26:45
You reckon that ifs
On the Veccy C's its normally the Stalk switch that starts to become intermittant, normly a quick wringle or hard button pushes can give a temp but limted fix.

Another on these Cars is once the Cruise detects an issues, (Main ECU) it wont work again untill you do an Ing. Restart, assumi,g the stalked wringle did its job.
Thanks for suggestion. I have rocked the stalk switch vigorously, switched on ignition, no change. Worth a try though.
Yep, worth a try, remember the having to do a Ing. Restart, for the future though or if you do end up changing Clutch / Brake switch.

As far vas I can remeber both the Brake and the clutch switch at as a closed loop ie, short cct, for the Cruise to operate so you could probably bypass and the test again to confirm, check with a meter to confirm first though.  :y
You reckon the cruise only operates when both clutch and brake switches are closed, i.e. brake and clutch not applied. So if I short out the possibly faulty clutch switch, the cruise ought to function normally. Interesting.
I cannot find any wiring diagram in Haynes for the cruise control, though it is fitted to all Vectras. Curiouser and curiouser.
Title: Re: Cruise control on my Vectra does not work
Post by: henryd on 08 July 2019, 17:57:59
You reckon that ifs
On the Veccy C's its normally the Stalk switch that starts to become intermittant, normly a quick wringle or hard button pushes can give a temp but limted fix.

Another on these Cars is once the Cruise detects an issues, (Main ECU) it wont work again untill you do an Ing. Restart, assumi,g the stalked wringle did its job.
Thanks for suggestion. I have rocked the stalk switch vigorously, switched on ignition, no change. Worth a try though.
Yep, worth a try, remember the having to do a Ing. Restart, for the future though or if you do end up changing Clutch / Brake switch.

As far vas I can remeber both the Brake and the clutch switch at as a closed loop ie, short cct, for the Cruise to operate so you could probably bypass and the test again to confirm, check with a meter to confirm first though.  :y
You reckon the cruise only operates when both clutch and brake switches are closed, i.e. brake and clutch not applied. So if I short out the possibly faulty clutch switch, the cruise ought to function normally. Interesting.
I cannot find any wiring diagram in Haynes for the cruise control, though it is fitted to all Vectras. Curiouser and curiouser.

Just change the switch Terry,no need to over think it as you had a fault code for the clutch switch so cruise won't work till thats fixed anyway :y
Title: Re: Cruise control on my Vectra does not work
Post by: TheBoy on 08 July 2019, 18:53:14
I wonder where on e-bay I can get a box of Vectra miniature fuses with a fuse rmoval tool.
Why ebay?  I most definitely would not buy a fuse from egay, or an unbranded one.

They are a bog standard mini blade type. Every single factor in the whole world will stock them.  FFS, tell me what values you need, and I'll post you some.
Title: Re: Cruise control on my Vectra does not work
Post by: terry paget on 08 July 2019, 19:13:59
You reckon that ifs
On the Veccy C's its normally the Stalk switch that starts to become intermittant, normly a quick wringle or hard button pushes can give a temp but limted fix.

Another on these Cars is once the Cruise detects an issues, (Main ECU) it wont work again untill you do an Ing. Restart, assumi,g the stalked wringle did its job.
Thanks for suggestion. I have rocked the stalk switch vigorously, switched on ignition, no change. Worth a try though.
Yep, worth a try, remember the having to do a Ing. Restart, for the future though or if you do end up changing Clutch / Brake switch.

As far vas I can remeber both the Brake and the clutch switch at as a closed loop ie, short cct, for the Cruise to operate so you could probably bypass and the test again to confirm, check with a meter to confirm first though.  :y
You reckon the cruise only operates when both clutch and brake switches are closed, i.e. brake and clutch not applied. So if I short out the possibly faulty clutch switch, the cruise ought to function normally. Interesting.
I cannot find any wiring diagram in Haynes for the cruise control, though it is fitted to all Vectras. Curiouser and curiouser.

Just change the switch Terry,no need to over think it as you had a fault code for the clutch switch so cruise won't work till thats fixed anyway :y
Come to think of it,I don't find ABS system wiring in Haynes either. The suggestion was that I could check whether the fault was the clutch switch by shorting it out. To do so I would need to know which wires to connect. I have odered a new clutch switch, so I shall change that next.
My sister recently bought a 2010 Corsa. On the Corsa she cannot start the engine until she depresses the clutch pedal - same switch presumably. At least I can still drive my car.
Title: Re: Cruise control on my Vectra does not work
Post by: terry paget on 08 July 2019, 21:26:57
I wonder where on e-bay I can get a box of Vectra miniature fuses with a fuse rmoval tool.
Why ebay?  I most definitely would not buy a fuse from egay, or an unbranded one.

They are a bog standard mini blade type. Every single factor in the whole world will stock them.  FFS, tell me what values you need, and I'll post you some.
I was suprised they were missing, along with the extraction tool. Never happened before on used Omegas. It was mainly the tool I was looking for.  I'll check the dead Astra in the morning.
Title: Re: Cruise control on my Vectra does not work
Post by: Nick W on 08 July 2019, 22:23:12
I wonder where on e-bay I can get a box of Vectra miniature fuses with a fuse rmoval tool.
Why ebay?  I most definitely would not buy a fuse from egay, or an unbranded one.

They are a bog standard mini blade type. Every single factor in the whole world will stock them.  FFS, tell me what values you need, and I'll post you some.
I was suprised they were missing, along with the extraction tool. Never happened before on used Omegas. It was mainly the tool I was looking for.  I'll check the dead Astra in the morning.


Surely you have some small pliers, or even some sturdy tweezers? And as TB said, any supplier will have any size of the modern blade fuses in any quantity you want from 1 to 100s for pennies over the counter. Or a selection pack of mixed values, which is probably the best approach.
Title: Re: Cruise control on my Vectra does not work
Post by: terry paget on 08 July 2019, 22:30:40
I wonder where on e-bay I can get a box of Vectra miniature fuses with a fuse rmoval tool.
Why ebay?  I most definitely would not buy a fuse from egay, or an unbranded one.

They are a bog standard mini blade type. Every single factor in the whole world will stock them.  FFS, tell me what values you need, and I'll post you some.
I was suprised they were missing, along with the extraction tool. Never happened before on used Omegas. It was mainly the tool I was looking for.  I'll check the dead Astra in the morning.


Surely you have some small pliers, or even some sturdy tweezers? And as TB said, any supplier will have any size of the modern blade fuses in any quantity you want from 1 to 100s for pennies over the counter. Or a selection pack of mixed values, which is probably the best approach.
Yes, I managed with a pair of lomg slim pliers, to remove and examine all the fuses in the A pillar fuse box - all OK. I was dismayed to discover that the tool and spare fuses were all missing from the cover, a situation I wished to rectify. I shall check my donor Astra tomorrow.
Title: Re: Cruise control on my Vectra does not work
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 09 July 2019, 01:41:41
Terry, the car has given you a code for the clutch switch. Replace it with a new one from Vauxhall and report back.
Apologies for shouting, but it really isn't difficult.  ;)
Title: Re: Cruise control on my Vectra does not work
Post by: terry paget on 09 July 2019, 11:19:03
Terry, the car has given you a code for the clutch switch. Replace it with a new one from Vauxhall and report back.
Apologies for shouting, but it really isn't difficult.  ;)
Yes, Doc, The e-bay switch looks genuine, but best to be sure. They should both arrive tomorrow.
I hope replacing it really isn't difficult.
Title: Re: Cruise control on my Vectra does not work
Post by: terry paget on 09 July 2019, 11:30:46
I wonder where on e-bay I can get a box of Vectra miniature fuses with a fuse rmoval tool.
Why ebay?  I most definitely would not buy a fuse from egay, or an unbranded one.

They are a bog standard mini blade type. Every single factor in the whole world will stock them.  FFS, tell me what values you need, and I'll post you some.
Thanks for the jolt, TB. Looked in the boot of my donor Astra, and there found fuse extractor tool and lots of fuses.
Title: Re: Cruise control on my Vectra does not work
Post by: STEMO on 09 July 2019, 11:34:17
I have never had to change a fuse in any car that I have owned. I don't know where the fuse box is in my astra, I've never felt the need to look.  ;D
Title: Re: Cruise control on my Vectra does not work
Post by: TheBoy on 09 July 2019, 12:03:01
Terry, the car has given you a code for the clutch switch. Replace it with a new one from Vauxhall and report back.
Apologies for shouting, but it really isn't difficult.  ;)
No, that is incorrect as well you know. Look at the live data first, and see the (ECU's view of) switch in action. Then measure it with a meter to prove/disprove the switch.

You know not to just do what the code reader says - we have dealers and the thicker garages for that ;)
Title: Re: Cruise control on my Vectra does not work
Post by: TheBoy on 09 July 2019, 12:04:00
I have never had to change a fuse in any car that I have owned. I don't know where the fuse box is in my astra, I've never felt the need to look.  ;D
One of our party broke down on the way back from France last month, due to a fuse blowing.
Title: Re: Cruise control on my Vectra does not work
Post by: terry paget on 09 July 2019, 13:47:44
I have never had to change a fuse in any car that I have owned. I don't know where the fuse box is in my astra, I've never felt the need to look.  ;D
One of our party broke down on the way back from France last month, due to a fuse blowing.
My sister broke down in her new Meriva and learned the hard way that she had no spare wheel, just an aerosol pot of useless sealant. I prefer to check these things before I break down.
Title: Re: Cruise control on my Vectra does not work
Post by: STEMO on 09 July 2019, 14:58:38
I have a man who turns up if either of us breaks down.
Title: Re: Cruise control on my Vectra does not work
Post by: terry paget on 10 July 2019, 15:59:55
New Vx clutch switch arrived today, and fitted. No change though, cruise still inoperative. Went through 5 engine start stop cycles, no change. The cruise symbol does not appear left of fuel gauge on ign. switch on, and in short test run at 40mph cruise would not engage.

Put it back on diagnoser. Same fault codes. I cancelled them, stopped and restarted, no DTCs present.
With engine running, cruise control tip switch reads inactive, when pressed in it reads I(set) so the switch is working
Clutch switch reads active
With brake pedal depressed Brake switch 1 reads active
                                      Brake switch 2 reads active

Both old and new switches seemed the same - open circuit extended, closed circuit compressed.

I wonder if the ECU requires many restarts before it regards cruise as operative.

My thanks to DG for wisdom and advice. Haynes was little help.
Title: Re: Cruise control on my Vectra does not work
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 10 July 2019, 17:50:29
At least you can rule out the switches if you can see them working ;)

On the left hand end of the dash, check the following fuses (amps)...

6(7.5)
9(7.5)
10(7.5)
17(15)
26(7.5)

And report back :y

Title: Re: Cruise control on my Vectra does not work
Post by: terry paget on 10 July 2019, 19:13:17
At least you can rule out the switches if you can see them working ;)

On the left hand end of the dash, check the following fuses (amps)...

6(7.5)
9(7.5)
10(7.5)
17(15)
26(7.5)

And report back :y
 
Title: Re: Cruise control on my Vectra does not work
Post by: terry paget on 10 July 2019, 19:20:59
At least you can rule out the switches if you can see them working ;)

On the left hand end of the dash, check the following fuses (amps)...

6(7.5)
9(7.5)
10(7.5)
17(15)
26(7.5)

And report back :y
I checked all the fuses in that box on Sunday, see reply 24. I checked the fuses above tonight, using a continuity meter, all were OK. No.9 had a 30 amp fuse.
Title: Re: Cruise control on my Vectra does not work
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 10 July 2019, 19:24:47
It should be a 7.5 amp. Change it and report back  :y
Title: Re: Cruise control on my Vectra does not work
Post by: terry paget on 10 July 2019, 20:17:44
It should be a 7.5 amp. Change it and report back  :y
Changed fuse 9 to a 7.5 amp fuse. Ran the engine, drove the car up and down the drive. Checked the fuse; it had not blown.

I observed on Sunday that the spare fuses and fuse removal tool that should have been in the cover were absent. Now we find a fuse of the wrong rating in slot 9, protecting the central control unit.
Title: Re: Cruise control on my Vectra does not work
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 10 July 2019, 20:52:27
Cruise control doesn't have its own fuse, but is controlled by several modules, including the central control unit and the steering column control unit (fuse 10).

Are all the tail and brake lights working correctly?

Bulb order top to bottom:

Indicator
Stop/tail
Tail
Fog (driver's side only)
Reverse.

The car will automatically use another tail light if a brake light fails which might knock out the cruise control.
Title: Re: Cruise control on my Vectra does not work
Post by: terry paget on 10 July 2019, 21:08:59
Cruise control doesn't have its own fuse, but is controlled by several modules, including the central control unit and the steering column control unit (fuse 10).

Are all the tail and brake lights working correctly?

Bulb order top to bottom:

Indicator
Stop/tail
Tail
Fog (driver's side only)
Reverse.

The car will automatically use another tail light if a brake light fails which might knock out the cruise control.
All working normally.
Title: Re: Cruise control on my Vectra does not work
Post by: ronnyd on 10 July 2019, 21:13:48
I,m looking at my owners handbook at the moment Terry and every time cruise is mentioned there is an asterisk denoting that it is/was an option when new. Are you sure that you ain,t looking for something that isn,t there?  ???
Title: Re: Cruise control on my Vectra does not work
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 10 July 2019, 21:33:34
It wouldn't have a cruise stalk or clutch switch... Handbook clearly shows light stalk without cruise buttons.

The cruise switch comprises of three switches...

Top nearest driver is the activate/accelerate.
Bottom nearest driver is the resume/decelerate
Furthest from the drive (the single thin button) is Off

If the off switch is sticky, then it could be that it isn't allowing the cruise to activate. Do all three switches operate cleanly and completely?

Also it won't activate until the brake is pressed.

Incidentally hb says to start the car in neutral with both clutch AND brake pedals pressed.

If you press both pedals THEN turn the ignition on, does the light illuminate?
Title: Re: Cruise control on my Vectra does not work
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 10 July 2019, 21:45:53
Also, re your codes, P0597 is a thermostat code and the P0014 relates to the variable valve solenoids... and resolved by removing the gauze filters as per the 1.8 Astra :y
Title: Re: Cruise control on my Vectra does not work
Post by: terry paget on 10 July 2019, 21:49:19
It wouldn't have a cruise stalk or clutch switch... Handbook clearly shows light stalk without cruise buttons.

The cruise switch comprises of three switches...

Top nearest driver is the activate/accelerate.
Bottom nearest driver is the resume/decelerate
Furthest from the drive (the single thin button) is Off

If the off switch is sticky, then it could be that it isn't allowing the cruise to activate. Do all three switches operate cleanly and completely?
The top and bottom switches nearest the driver ar in fact a rocker switch. The slim off switch at the back of the arm seems free enough. Havng pushed it in and had it spring out a few times I turned on the ignition, but the cruise symbol did not appear left of the fuel gauge.
Title: Re: Cruise control on my Vectra does not work
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 10 July 2019, 21:50:49
Have added to that post ;)

Report back :y
Title: Re: Cruise control on my Vectra does not work
Post by: terry paget on 10 July 2019, 22:25:19
I depressed clutch and brake pedals, then switched on ignition, cruise symbol did not appear to the left of the fuel gauge.
Title: Re: Cruise control on my Vectra does not work
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 10 July 2019, 22:51:40
In that case I would arrange a trip to TB or KW for a Tech2 session to investigate and programme your new key(s)  :y
Title: Re: Cruise control on my Vectra does not work
Post by: TheBoy on 11 July 2019, 10:10:32
New Vx clutch switch arrived today, and fitted. No change though, cruise still inoperative. Went through 5 engine start stop cycles, no change. The cruise symbol does not appear left of fuel gauge on ign. switch on, and in short test run at 40mph cruise would not engage.

Put it back on diagnoser. Same fault codes. I cancelled them, stopped and restarted, no DTCs present.
With engine running, cruise control tip switch reads inactive, when pressed in it reads I(set) so the switch is working
Clutch switch reads active
With brake pedal depressed Brake switch 1 reads active
                                      Brake switch 2 reads active

Both old and new switches seemed the same - open circuit extended, closed circuit compressed.

I wonder if the ECU requires many restarts before it regards cruise as operative.

My thanks to DG for wisdom and advice. Haynes was little help.
And a lesson in why you don't just change parts without proper diagnosis ;)


On live data, is it showing the Cruise switch options - can't remember exactly what they are call on Vectra, but On Omega, its called I, 0, R. (guessing short for Increase/Off/Reduce)
Title: Re: Cruise control on my Vectra does not work
Post by: terry paget on 11 July 2019, 14:03:32
Also, re your codes, P0597 is a thermostat code and the P0014 relates to the variable valve solenoids... and resolved by removing the gauze filters as per the 1.8 Astra :y
Thanks for all your help, DG.
Checking faults again this afternoon, P0597 has reappeared, thermostat you say. I believe that, I knew the thermostat was inactive on journey home after purchase. I will change it soon.
Interesting discovery - depressing the brake pedal, brake switches both went from inactive to active; depressing clutch pedal, nothing changed, it read active pressed or relaxed. Contemplate.
Title: Re: Cruise control on my Vectra does not work
Post by: terry paget on 11 July 2019, 14:15:09
New Vx clutch switch arrived today, and fitted. No change though, cruise still inoperative. Went through 5 engine start stop cycles, no change. The cruise symbol does not appear left of fuel gauge on ign. switch on, and in short test run at 40mph cruise would not engage.

Put it back on diagnoser. Same fault codes. I cancelled them, stopped and restarted, no DTCs present.
With engine running, cruise control tip switch reads inactive, when pressed in it reads I(set) so the switch is working
Clutch switch reads active
With brake pedal depressed Brake switch 1 reads active
                                      Brake switch 2 reads active

Both old and new switches seemed the same - open circuit extended, closed circuit compressed.

I wonder if the ECU requires many restarts before it regards cruise as operative.

My thanks to DG for wisdom and advice. Haynes was little help.
And a lesson in why you don't just change parts without proper diagnosis ;)


On live data, is it showing the Cruise switch options - can't remember exactly what they are call on Vectra, but On Omega, its called I, 0, R. (guessing short for Increase/Off/Reduce)
Pressing the top switch, reading goes from inactive to I(set); pressing bottom switch reading goes from inactive to R(resume); presing slim back switch it goes from inactive to O(off).
Title: Re: Cruise control on my Vectra does not work
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 11 July 2019, 14:42:36
Next step then is checking the wiring to the clutch switch might be chafed against the dash structure/steering column.

Had an issue with a Peugeot 405 where adjusting the steering column pinched the immobiliser/alarm wiring, so would not rule that out  ;)
Title: Re: Cruise control on my Vectra does not work
Post by: terry paget on 11 July 2019, 14:55:37
Next step then is checking the wiring to the clutch switch might be chafed against the dash structure/steering column.

Had an issue with a Peugeot 405 where adjusting the steering column pinched the immobiliser/alarm wiring, so would not rule that out  ;)
Will check, though the wiring is very short. I checked the new Vx switch with a meter, worked OK. I swopped the switches, and checked the old switch, also OK. I then noticed that by sticking probes against the 2 pins to check continuity, I had bent one of them. I bent it bck as best I could.

I wonder if the original switch had gone in with bent pins, so when the plug was pushed in it did not go on to the pins, but bent one over. And did I inadvertently bend a pin when testing the new switch?

Am I right in saying that the live data should go from active to inactive on pedal depression, like the brake pedal?
Title: Re: Cruise control on my Vectra does not work
Post by: terry paget on 11 July 2019, 15:15:57
I cannot see any sign of cable snagging or chafing through. It is anchored a short distance fron the switch, to keep it out of harm's way. I gave it a pulling about, then checked whether anything had change, it had not. The Switch plunger is certainly going in and out as the clutch pedal is depressed.
Title: Re: Cruise control on my Vectra does not work
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 11 July 2019, 15:23:30
Don't forget the column on those goes in/out as well as up/down :y
Title: Re: Cruise control on my Vectra does not work
Post by: terry paget on 11 July 2019, 20:03:45
Don't forget the column on those goes in/out as well as up/down :y
I didn't know it did.
Title: Re: Cruise control on my Vectra does not work
Post by: terry paget on 11 July 2019, 20:18:12
My only other car with cruise is my PFL 2.5 Omega estate. I put the diagnoser on it, but its a 2000 car and does not give me brake or clutch switch data. I still wonder whether the clutch switch should go from active to inactive when the clutch pedal is depressed.
Title: Re: Cruise control on my Vectra does not work
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 11 July 2019, 20:27:00
My only other car with cruise is my PFL 2.5 Omega estate. I put the diagnoser on it, but its a 2000 car and does not give me brake or clutch switch data. I still wonder whether the clutch switch should go from active to inactive when the clutch pedal is depressed.
Completely different set up, so don't confuse yourself ;)

Don't forget the column on those goes in/out as well as up/down :y
I didn't know it did.
It's in the manual... ::)
Title: Re: Cruise control on my Vectra does not work
Post by: TheBoy on 13 July 2019, 10:22:00
Interesting discovery - depressing the brake pedal, brake switches both went from inactive to active; depressing clutch pedal, nothing changed, it read active pressed or relaxed. Contemplate.
So the ECU cannot see the clutch switch.

I'd check it by replacing clutch switch with a suitable bit of wire, to see if wiring OK (on live data only, not for driving), and if it makes no difference, then get a meter out and start checking the wiring.
Title: Re: Cruise control on my Vectra does not work
Post by: TheBoy on 13 July 2019, 10:23:18
My only other car with cruise is my PFL 2.5 Omega estate. I put the diagnoser on it, but its a 2000 car and does not give me brake or clutch switch data. I still wonder whether the clutch switch should go from active to inactive when the clutch pedal is depressed.
To see the same stuff on that 2.5, you need to look at Cruise Control ECU, not engine ECU, as its a bolt on system.
Title: Re: Cruise control on my Vectra does not work
Post by: terry paget on 13 July 2019, 17:21:48
My only other car with cruise is my PFL 2.5 Omega estate. I put the diagnoser on it, but its a 2000 car and does not give me brake or clutch switch data. I still wonder whether the clutch switch should go from active to inactive when the clutch pedal is depressed.
Completely different set up, so don't confuse yourself ;)

Don't forget the column on those goes in/out as well as up/down :y
I didn't know it did.
It's in the manual... ::)
So it is, page 6. It moves quite a long way, too, quite a useful discovery.
Title: Re: Cruise control on my Vectra does not work
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 13 July 2019, 20:44:21
 :y
Title: Re: Cruise control on my Vectra does not work
Post by: terry paget on 14 July 2019, 15:46:34
Interesting discovery - depressing the brake pedal, brake switches both went from inactive to active; depressing clutch pedal, nothing changed, it read active pressed or relaxed. Contemplate.
So the ECU cannot see the clutch switch.

I'd check it by replacing clutch switch with a suitable bit of wire, to see if wiring OK (on live data only, not for driving), and if it makes no difference, then get a meter out and start checking the wiring.
I removed the clutch switch lead, and after a struggle inserted 2 wires in holes 3 & 4 of the socket. With the 2 wires unconnected, connected diagnoser, and discovered clutch switch was still 'active'. I removed the wires from socket, and diagnoser still said 'active'.
Looks to me that the 2 wires from the clutch switch are shorted together somewhere. I can see some white (masking?) tape around the pair of wires higher up, but can get neither a good photo or conclusive view.
Please advise.
Is the instrument panel easily removed, as on the Omegas?
Title: Re: Cruise control on my Vectra does not work
Post by: TheBoy on 14 July 2019, 16:08:41
look at a wiring diagram first, and look for easy access points (connectors) in it. Then get the meter out ;)

I suspect you'll find a blown fuse.
Title: Re: Cruise control on my Vectra does not work
Post by: terry paget on 14 July 2019, 16:13:56
look at a wiring diagram first, and look for easy access points (connectors) in it. Then get the meter out ;)

I suspect you'll find a blown fuse.
As said before, I cannot find the cruise control or clutch switch wiring in the Haynes manual. Have I missed it?
Title: Re: Cruise control on my Vectra does not work
Post by: TheBoy on 14 July 2019, 16:18:35
Check Fuse F120
Title: Re: Cruise control on my Vectra does not work
Post by: TheBoy on 14 July 2019, 16:19:32
I've made an assumption its an Z18XER
Title: Re: Cruise control on my Vectra does not work
Post by: TheBoy on 14 July 2019, 16:37:18
At Pin 4 on clutch switch, you should have 12v with ignition on. Please confirm.
Title: Re: Cruise control on my Vectra does not work
Post by: TheBoy on 14 July 2019, 16:46:35
And look at...
https://www.motor-talk.de/forum/aktion/Attachment.html?attachmentId=758790

And scroll down a few pages until you see a simple diagram with P128161 in bottom right. This is clutch switch diagram, and the next page gives the initials/labels.


The lower bit of the diagram appears much much lower in link, on page P129040, pin 16 of main ECU.  So that gives you the complete schematics for the clutch switch to follow through, including 2 connectors between the clutch switch and the ECU, where you can do some continuity testing with a meter.
Title: Re: Cruise control on my Vectra does not work
Post by: terry paget on 14 July 2019, 17:35:28
No volts on pin 4, clutch switch socket, with ignition on.
Car is indeed Z18XER.
Could not find Fuse 120. Under bonnet are F1-F36; in boot F6-F29; LH end of dash F10-F26.
Title: Re: Cruise control on my Vectra does not work
Post by: terry paget on 14 July 2019, 18:09:42
Thanks for the wiring diagram. Now I must work out what it means.
Title: Re: Cruise control on my Vectra does not work
Post by: terry paget on 14 July 2019, 19:54:41
 I see fuse 120 at the top of page 128161, feeding power to the clutch switch circuit. Now all I have to do is find it.
Title: Re: Cruise control on my Vectra does not work
Post by: terry paget on 14 July 2019, 20:59:05
On wiring diagram p.129040 it shows FE14 10A and FR10 20A, which sound like fuses, but where they are is a mystery, like F120.
Title: Re: Cruise control on my Vectra does not work
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 14 July 2019, 21:03:25
It's actually fuse FI 20 so Fusebox Instruments 20

End of dash with the fuses you checked previously  :y
Title: Re: Cruise control on my Vectra does not work
Post by: terry paget on 14 July 2019, 22:27:20
It's actually fuse FI 20 so Fusebox Instruments 20

End of dash with the fuses you checked previously  :y
I fear you are right. Magnifying the wiring diagram It says FI whereas a nearby 15 shows the 1 as a 1. I checked all those fuses last Sunday and all seemed OK. The handbook lists fuse 20 as Yaw rate sensor, not clutch switch.
Title: Re: Cruise control on my Vectra does not work
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 14 July 2019, 22:47:16
It's actually fuse FI 20 so Fusebox Instruments 20

End of dash with the fuses you checked previously  :y
I fear you are right. Magnifying the wiring diagram It says FI whereas a nearby 15 shows the 1 as a 1. I checked all those fuses last Sunday and all seemed OK. The handbook lists fuse 20 as Yaw rate sensor, not clutch switch.
The hand book also states that many of the fuses cover several circuits ;)

Follow the wiring diagrams  :y
Title: Re: Cruise control on my Vectra does not work
Post by: TheBoy on 15 July 2019, 10:20:55
Soz for the confusion, trying to use a laptop out in bright sunshine, even now I think it says F120, but could easily be FI20.

TIS shows it as the 2nd column from the right, 3rd one down, 7.5a
Title: Re: Cruise control on my Vectra does not work
Post by: Andy B on 15 July 2019, 10:28:51
and so another Terry sag continues .....  ::) ::)
Title: Re: Cruise control on my Vectra does not work
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 15 July 2019, 12:05:08
Soz for the confusion, trying to use a laptop out in bright sunshine, even now I think it says F120, but could easily be FI20.

TIS shows it as the 2nd column from the right, 3rd one down, 7.5a
It's plain as day on the key/index for that diagram ;)
Title: Re: Cruise control on my Vectra does not work
Post by: terry paget on 15 July 2019, 16:39:33
It's actually fuse FI 20 so Fusebox Instruments 20

End of dash with the fuses you checked previously  :y
I suppose Fuse FE14 is near the engine and fuse FR10 is at the rear of the car; except the diagram is in German, never mind.
Checked fuse FI20 again, found fuse slot FI20 empty. Popped in a 7.5amp fuse, checked clutch switch pin 4, ign. on, now showing 12 volts, Replaced socket on clutch switch, plugged in diagnoser, now clutch switch goes from inactive to active on depressing clutch pedal. Started engine, no cruise symbol.
Took car for test run, cruise now operates normally. After 5 miles the green cruise symbol lit up.

My thanks again to DG and TB, wthout whose help I would never have solved this problem.
Title: Re: Cruise control on my Vectra does not work
Post by: STEMO on 15 July 2019, 16:54:01
What a great result! Well done Al and Jaime  :y
Title: Re: Cruise control on my Vectra does not work
Post by: STEMO on 15 July 2019, 16:55:32
No fuse in place and no spare fuses suggests to me that this one had been 'borrowed' to get something else working.
Title: Re: Cruise control on my Vectra does not work
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 15 July 2019, 17:59:20
and so another Terry sag continues .....  ::) ::)

Terry sag.... Is that a curry?  ::)  ;D
Title: Re: Cruise control on my Vectra does not work
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 15 July 2019, 18:03:02
No fuse in place and no spare fuses suggests to me that this one had been 'borrowed' to get something else working.
I don't remember owning a Vectra Sri...  ::)
Title: Re: Cruise control on my Vectra does not work
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 15 July 2019, 18:12:11
Job jobbed :y

FI(nstrument) is the dash one
FH(inter) is the rear one, aka rear body module :y and is in the boot next to the NSR light in a boot cubby :y
Title: Re: Cruise control on my Vectra does not work
Post by: ronnyd on 15 July 2019, 19:06:43
Nice one Terry :y. I,d have given up weeks ago. ;D
Title: Re: Cruise control on my Vectra does not work
Post by: Andy B on 15 July 2019, 20:03:18
and so another Terry sag continues .....  ::) ::)

Terry sag.... Is that a curry?  ::)  ;D

Ooops! I suppose I should have read what I wrote before pressing 'enter'   ;D
Title: Re: Cruise control on my Vectra does not work
Post by: terry paget on 18 July 2019, 20:42:17
Fuse FI 20 is described as protecting Yaw rate sensor (ESP - then R in a circle, then PLus). This meant, and still means, nothing to me. Had it been 'Clutch Switch' then I imagine we would have come straight to it. Shame on Vauxhall, say I. Every other fuse protection is unambiguous, not FI 20.
Title: Re: Cruise control on my Vectra does not work
Post by: TheBoy on 19 July 2019, 18:42:41
I think I said early on, my experience of Vectra-C cruise issues, its 9 times out of 10 one of the fuses.
Title: Re: Cruise control on my Vectra does not work
Post by: Shackeng on 19 July 2019, 19:36:30
Fuse FI 20 is described as protecting Yaw rate sensor (ESP - then R in a circle, then PLus). This meant, and still means, nothing to me. Had it been 'Clutch Switch' then I imagine we would have come straight to it. Shame on Vauxhall, say I. Every other fuse protection is unambiguous, not FI 20.

IIRC as fitted to all Airbus A/C and the 737 MAx. ::)
Title: Re: Cruise control on my Vectra does not work
Post by: dave the builder on 19 July 2019, 19:56:41
part of the ESP on many vauxhalls
so ABS,traction control related
a box of tricks the size of a fag packet  :y
Title: Re: Cruise control on my Vectra does not work
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 19 July 2019, 20:47:45
Fuse FI 20 is described as protecting Yaw rate sensor (ESP - then R in a circle, then PLus). This meant, and still means, nothing to me. Had it been 'Clutch Switch' then I imagine we would have come straight to it. Shame on Vauxhall, say I. Every other fuse protection is unambiguous, not FI 20.

IIRC as fitted to all Airbus A/C and the 737 MAx. ::)
That'll never be an issue tnen :D