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[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

I think that cars today 'go out of tune' far more slowly than cars of yesteryear.

Carbs have gone.......as have points which would wear and change the timing. I remember seeing the air filter from a Cortina 2000 GXL MK3.

The car was returning about 14 MPG and the filter which was as black as Obama's arse had never been changed. The points were black and pitted, and the plugs which were supposed to be changed each year/12000 miles were wet and black.

Couldn't get it to rev above 3500 RPM.

I remember going with a mate to buy a Chevette.  It was in reasonable condition but the engine was as rough as a bear's @rse and the owner clearly clueless. We took a punt on the fact that it just needed some TLC.

I drove it home and it was barely drivable.

\.

The air filter had totally clogged with oil from the breathers, the points were barely opening at all 
A new set of filters, plugs, points, oil and coolant change, check the timing and adjust the mixture and it drove like it had just come out of the factory.

Not good.

The last car I owned with points was a 1982 Mark 1 Astra 1300.

There are whole generations of mechanics who have never had to slide a feeler in to see if it is a nice snug fit.

[Bigron]

Oh, I still LOVE to do that, Doctor! 

Ron.

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

Oh, I still LOVE to do that, Doctor! 

Ron.

At your age, Ron.

[Marks DTM Calib]

I think that cars today 'go out of tune' far more slowly than cars of yesteryear.

Carbs have gone.......as have points which would wear and change the timing. I remember seeing the air filter from a Cortina 2000 GXL MK3.

The car was returning about 14 MPG and the filter which was as black as Obama's arse had never been changed. The points were black and pitted, and the plugs which were supposed to be changed each year/12000 miles were wet and black.

Couldn't get it to rev above 3500 RPM.

I remember going with a mate to buy a Chevette.  It was in reasonable condition but the engine was as rough as a bear's @rse and the owner clearly clueless. We took a punt on the fact that it just needed some TLC.

I drove it home and it was barely drivable.

\.

The air filter had totally clogged with oil from the breathers, the points were barely opening at all 
A new set of filters, plugs, points, oil and coolant change, check the timing and adjust the mixture and it drove like it had just come out of the factory.

Not good.

The last car I owned with points was a 1982 Mark 1 Astra 1300.

There are whole generations of mechanics who have never had to slide a feeler in to see if it is a nice snug fit.

Must have been the 1.2 pushrod, the 1.3 OHC had electronic ignition from day 1 (what a sad git I am)

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

I think that cars today 'go out of tune' far more slowly than cars of yesteryear.

Carbs have gone.......as have points which would wear and change the timing. I remember seeing the air filter from a Cortina 2000 GXL MK3.

The car was returning about 14 MPG and the filter which was as black as Obama's arse had never been changed. The points were black and pitted, and the plugs which were supposed to be changed each year/12000 miles were wet and black.

Couldn't get it to rev above 3500 RPM.

I remember going with a mate to buy a Chevette.  It was in reasonable condition but the engine was as rough as a bear's @rse and the owner clearly clueless. We took a punt on the fact that it just needed some TLC.

I drove it home and it was barely drivable.

\.

The air filter had totally clogged with oil from the breathers, the points were barely opening at all 
A new set of filters, plugs, points, oil and coolant change, check the timing and adjust the mixture and it drove like it had just come out of the factory.

Not good.

The last car I owned with points was a 1982 Mark 1 Astra 1300.

There are whole generations of mechanics who have never had to slide a feeler in to see if it is a nice snug fit.

Must have been the 1.2 pushrod, the 1.3 OHC had electronic ignition from day 1 (what a sad git I am)

It was 'Y' reg estste and badged 1300S. I can still recall the number plate, TNT 85Y.

It was finished in a repulsive shade of orange. Deffo had points.

[Kevin Wood]

A new set of filters, plugs, points, oil and coolant change, check the timing and adjust the mixture and it drove like it had just come out of the factory.

That bad? 

I wondered if I'd get a bite.

[TheBoy]

Why do manufactures use a belt that needs to be 'expensively replaced' every forty thousand miles when a chain 'should' last the life of the car?

.. because a chain isn't compatible with telling people it'll do elevently million miles between oil changes, as they do.

Yes....oil changes every fifty million miles as prescribed by some manufactures can lead to problems.

Service intervals on cars from the sixties and seventies was often as low as every 3000 miles.

The BMW tractor lump when first released was 4500 miles, and that was mid 90s.  Obviously, the marketeers got that changed to double that by the late 90s

[TheBoy]

Why do manufactures use a belt that needs to be 'expensively replaced' every forty thousand miles when a chain 'should' last the life of the car?

Modern vauxhalls state 100,000 miles or ten years. People on here will no doubt say that they wouldn't wait that long, but I never keep a car long enough to find out.

I'm always happy to go to what the manufacturer states with belts, but start getting nervous when going significantly over.

The Jag is something like 100k on the belts change as well.

[ians]

I think that cars today 'go out of tune' far more slowly than cars of yesteryear.

Carbs have gone.......as have points which would wear and change the timing. I remember seeing the air filter from a Cortina 2000 GXL MK3.

The car was returning about 14 MPG and the filter which was as black as Obama's arse had never been changed. The points were black and pitted, and the plugs which were supposed to be changed each year/12000 miles were wet and black.

Couldn't get it to rev above 3500 RPM.

I remember going with a mate to buy a Chevette.  It was in reasonable condition but the engine was as rough as a bear's @rse and the owner clearly clueless. We took a punt on the fact that it just needed some TLC.

I drove it home and it was barely drivable.

\.

The air filter had totally clogged with oil from the breathers, the points were barely opening at all 
A new set of filters, plugs, points, oil and coolant change, check the timing and adjust the mixture and it drove like it had just come out of the factory.

Not good.

The last car I owned with points was a 1982 Mark 1 Astra 1300.

There are whole generations of mechanics who have never had to slide a feeler in to see if it is a nice snug fit.

Must have been the 1.2 pushrod, the 1.3 OHC had electronic ignition from day 1 (what a sad git I am)

It was 'Y' reg estste and badged 1300S. I can still recall the number plate, TNT 85Y.

It was finished in a repulsive shade of orange. Deffo had points.

I had one of those.  W Reg finished in a lovely shade of grandad brown.

Actually I loved it but always hankered after a GTE.
Still have the Haynes book somewhere!

[henryd]

I think that cars today 'go out of tune' far more slowly than cars of yesteryear.

Carbs have gone.......as have points which would wear and change the timing. I remember seeing the air filter from a Cortina 2000 GXL MK3.

The car was returning about 14 MPG and the filter which was as black as Obama's arse had never been changed. The points were black and pitted, and the plugs which were supposed to be changed each year/12000 miles were wet and black.

Couldn't get it to rev above 3500 RPM.

I remember going with a mate to buy a Chevette.  It was in reasonable condition but the engine was as rough as a bear's @rse and the owner clearly clueless. We took a punt on the fact that it just needed some TLC.

I drove it home and it was barely drivable.

\.

The air filter had totally clogged with oil from the breathers, the points were barely opening at all 
A new set of filters, plugs, points, oil and coolant change, check the timing and adjust the mixture and it drove like it had just come out of the factory.

Not good.

The last car I owned with points was a 1982 Mark 1 Astra 1300.

There are whole generations of mechanics who have never had to slide a feeler in to see if it is a nice snug fit.

Must have been the 1.2 pushrod, the 1.3 OHC had electronic ignition from day 1 (what a sad git I am)

that was the old Opel Kadett engine wasn't it 

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

I think that cars today 'go out of tune' far more slowly than cars of yesteryear.

Carbs have gone.......as have points which would wear and change the timing. I remember seeing the air filter from a Cortina 2000 GXL MK3.

The car was returning about 14 MPG and the filter which was as black as Obama's arse had never been changed. The points were black and pitted, and the plugs which were supposed to be changed each year/12000 miles were wet and black.

Couldn't get it to rev above 3500 RPM.

I remember going with a mate to buy a Chevette.  It was in reasonable condition but the engine was as rough as a bear's @rse and the owner clearly clueless. We took a punt on the fact that it just needed some TLC.

I drove it home and it was barely drivable.

\.

The air filter had totally clogged with oil from the breathers, the points were barely opening at all 
A new set of filters, plugs, points, oil and coolant change, check the timing and adjust the mixture and it drove like it had just come out of the factory.

Not good.

The last car I owned with points was a 1982 Mark 1 Astra 1300.

There are whole generations of mechanics who have never had to slide a feeler in to see if it is a nice snug fit.

Must have been the 1.2 pushrod, the 1.3 OHC had electronic ignition from day 1 (what a sad git I am)

that was the old Opel Kadett engine wasn't it 

My 1.3 Astra was OHC and had points.

[ians]

I think that cars today 'go out of tune' far more slowly than cars of yesteryear.

Carbs have gone.......as have points which would wear and change the timing. I remember seeing the air filter from a Cortina 2000 GXL MK3.

The car was returning about 14 MPG and the filter which was as black as Obama's arse had never been changed. The points were black and pitted, and the plugs which were supposed to be changed each year/12000 miles were wet and black.

Couldn't get it to rev above 3500 RPM.

I remember going with a mate to buy a Chevette.  It was in reasonable condition but the engine was as rough as a bear's @rse and the owner clearly clueless. We took a punt on the fact that it just needed some TLC.

I drove it home and it was barely drivable.

\.

The air filter had totally clogged with oil from the breathers, the points were barely opening at all 
A new set of filters, plugs, points, oil and coolant change, check the timing and adjust the mixture and it drove like it had just come out of the factory.

Not good.

The last car I owned with points was a 1982 Mark 1 Astra 1300.

There are whole generations of mechanics who have never had to slide a feeler in to see if it is a nice snug fit.

Must have been the 1.2 pushrod, the 1.3 OHC had electronic ignition from day 1 (what a sad git I am)

that was the old Opel Kadett engine wasn't it 

My 1.3 Astra was OHC and had points.

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