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[Entwood]

Info on Direct Injection and LPG if you are interested ..

https://brc.it/en/kit/sequent-direct-injection-2-0-en/

https://www.prinsautogas.com/en/products/directliquimax_system/directliquimax_system.html

Most of the other LPG suppliers are now also doing Direct Injection systems  as well

[SMD]

I'll buy yours when you get bored of it 

[TheBoy]

Strangely, I was hovering over a Buy Now XFR the other day...  ...but the economy would be my issue.

Are they LPG-able TB? 

My need for a battered workhorse estate will (hopefully) be coming to an end soonish and I'm thinking of treating myself to something nice. 

Pretty certain they are direct injection, which I would imagine would make LPG'ing more challenging.

Not sure if the XF is the same, but the X351 XJ has a massive wheel well that would take a huge tank.

Thinking about it, I've seen later L322 RR's with the Jag V8 that have LPG, but maybe that's the 4.4V8 not the 5.0ltr. 

How late L322? Very early had Jag 4.2, replaced for the incontinent BMW 4.4 reasonably early on, and later ones got the very decent Jag 5l, probably around 2008ish?

[TheBoy]

Info on Direct Injection and LPG if you are interested ..

https://brc.it/en/kit/sequent-direct-injection-2-0-en/

https://www.prinsautogas.com/en/products/directliquimax_system/directliquimax_system.html

Most of the other LPG suppliers are now also doing Direct Injection systems  as well

Yes, sorry, I meant DIY.  I'm not happy with mongs touching my car

[456lbft]

An alternative within your budget could be E63 AMG, but only the one with the proper AMG 6.2L V8.
As big V8s go, they are impressive, 500bhp, 7500 rpm and no superchargers or turbos to worry about.  XFR's very nice too, the supercharged 5Litre is tuned for low end torque, but I'd be worried about reliability, especially transmission and electrics.

[Sir Tigger KC]

Strangely, I was hovering over a Buy Now XFR the other day...  ...but the economy would be my issue.

Are they LPG-able TB? 

My need for a battered workhorse estate will (hopefully) be coming to an end soonish and I'm thinking of treating myself to something nice. 

Pretty certain they are direct injection, which I would imagine would make LPG'ing more challenging.

Not sure if the XF is the same, but the X351 XJ has a massive wheel well that would take a huge tank.

Thinking about it, I've seen later L322 RR's with the Jag V8 that have LPG, but maybe that's the 4.4V8 not the 5.0ltr. 

How late L322? Very early had Jag 4.2, replaced for the incontinent BMW 4.4 reasonably early on, and later ones got the very decent Jag 5l, probably around 2008ish?

I was thinking about the Jag 4.2 S/C, but that came after the BMW 4.4 in 2005, so not that late on really. 

I guess the super charged Jag 5.0 V8 is the same lump that Lord Opti has and I bet that's great in a RR! 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Range_Rover_(L322)

[Mr.OmegaMan]

An alternative within your budget could be E63 AMG, but only the one with the proper AMG 6.2L V8.
As big V8s go, they are impressive, 500bhp, 7500 rpm and no superchargers or turbos to worry about.  XFR's very nice too, the supercharged 5Litre is tuned for low end torque, but I'd be worried about reliability, especially transmission and electrics.

As nice as the C63, E63, ML63 etc.. With the M156 6.2 V8 N/A engines are they have been known to have their own problems. Not very common, Granted. But would always be at the back of my mind... I believe most but not all of the niggles where fixed from around 2012/2013>... Earlier cars from 2006-2012 that had the M156 6.2 V8 N/A engine fitted could have issues such as the head bolts snapping, lifter issues, cam shafts... etc..

No idea what the newer E63 with the 5.5 V8 Turbo are like for reliability. Maybe they would be the safer bet?

Only powerful Mercedes I’d consider would be one fitted with the what’s considered a pretty reliable engine. The M113 5.4 V8 N/A or M113K 5.4 V8 Supercharged... Although I believe these ended around 2006 for the E55 / CLS55.

Take these for example, Very nice car’s IMO.

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201903226155313?atmobcid=soc4

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201903196043905?atmobcid=soc4

[SMD]

An alternative within your budget could be E63 AMG, but only the one with the proper AMG 6.2L V8.
As big V8s go, they are impressive, 500bhp, 7500 rpm and no superchargers or turbos to worry about.  XFR's very nice too, the supercharged 5Litre is tuned for low end torque, but I'd be worried about reliability, especially transmission and electrics.

Dont make it any harder!

I couldn't resist browsing autotrader looking at E62 AMGs. The V8 biturbos are sexy! 

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

An alternative within your budget could be E63 AMG, but only the one with the proper AMG 6.2L V8.
As big V8s go, they are impressive, 500bhp, 7500 rpm and no superchargers or turbos to worry about.  XFR's very nice too, the supercharged 5Litre is tuned for low end torque, but I'd be worried about reliability, especially transmission and electrics.

As nice as the C63, E63, ML63 etc.. With the M156 6.2 V8 N/A engines are they have been known to have their own problems. Not very common, Granted. But would always be at the back of my mind... I believe most but not all of the niggles where fixed from around 2012/2013>... Earlier cars from 2006-2012 that had the M156 6.2 V8 N/A engine fitted could have issues such as the head bolts snapping, lifter issues, cam shafts... etc..

No idea what the newer E63 with the 5.5 V8 Turbo are like for reliability. Maybe they would be the safer bet?

Only powerful Mercedes I’d consider would be one fitted with the what’s considered a pretty reliable engine. The M113 5.4 V8 N/A or M113K 5.4 V8 Supercharged... Although I believe these ended around 2006 for the E55 / CLS55.

Take these for example, Very nice car’s IMO.

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201903226155313?atmobcid=soc4

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201903196043905?atmobcid=soc4

Speaking of the Mercedes CLS 500 here are a couple of images of mine. No supercharger, just the N/A 306 BHP 5 litre V8..... which is the runt of the litter.

It went well enough but was far from reliable and not particularly well put together.

Loved the double banana shape though. 

[SMD]

You have had some nice cars! Are you an aristocrat?

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

You have had some nice cars! Are you an aristocrat?

I'm a prole.

[JamesV6CDX]

When did we start buying £20,000 cars? I remember not many years ago , we were all sucking through our teeth at a £3,000 3.2 elite estate 

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

When did we start buying £20,000 cars? I remember not many years ago , we were all sucking through our teeth at a £3,000 3.2 elite estate 

You will know better than I, James.........but didn't a new 3.2 Elite retail for around £33000 in 2003?

Did anybody actually pay this amount?

[Sir Tigger KC]

You have had some nice cars! Are you an aristocrat?

His nickname Lord Opti is a piss take. 

His proper nomenclature is His Gracious Excellency The Grand Duke Opti of Lincolnsire.   

[SMD]

You have had some nice cars! Are you an aristocrat?

His proper nomenclature is His Gracious Excellency The Grand Duke Opti of Lincolnsire.   

Thats what I thought 

James, the Omega was/is such a good car that the only thing that comes close is north of £20k