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Messages - Lizzie Zoom

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Omega General Help / Re: Engine Management Light On
« on: 08 August 2023, 14:20:00 »
Thanks Dave and DG.

I will try the battery disconnection first, as I wouldnt know where to plug in a dongle ::) ;D ;D ;D ;)

Failing that I will just see my Vx dealer to get them to rectify.  PS After reading another thread on dealers reading the codes, perhaps I will not!! :o :o :o

It is not worth driving the 232 miles round trip to see Serek.   ;)

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Omega General Help / Re: Engine Management Light On
« on: 08 August 2023, 14:00:05 »
Clear the codes and see if they return.

But that nut is on the primary vacuum pipe from the inlet to the brake booster.

No reason on this planet for it to be loose. Ever.

Take it back to Serek and have him fix it.

Thanks DG :y

How though do you clear the codes please? :-\

Never done that before :D

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Omega General Help / Re: Engine Management Light On
« on: 08 August 2023, 13:52:06 »
I carried out a full repair of the breather pipe, checked all connections, and found just one loose nut on the pipe going into the right hand side of the plenum.

Still the light is on, steady, but not flashing.

The codes from the pedal trick exercise are:   0170 Fuel trim malfunction (Bank1)

                                                                  0173 Fuel trim malfunction (Bank2)

Frankly this makes me no wiser on what I should do now, so advise please.

If I have, somehow corrected the fault(s) already, can I cancel down these codes please?

 :y

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Omega General Help / Re: Engine Management Light On
« on: 07 August 2023, 22:04:05 »
I'd be surprised if any of the pipes on the back of that breather can cause the EML light to come on. ECU only knows what the various sensors tell it, and AFAIK nothing measures anything in the breathers.

More likely to be an electrical connection off one of the various sensors, actuators or valves that are part of the plenium. The ECU does know if they're unplugged - it basically measures their resistance, and if that resistance is out of limits then EML on. As others say - get the codes read, or do the pedal trick.
It's unmetered air into the intake which potentially causes discrepancies elsewhere, hence the light.

No. The big pipes come from the crankcase, which is basically at atmospheric. I've run mine with them disconnected - no issues - although that is/was a 3.0 not a 3.2. The holes in the breather are tiny (assuming they're not actually blocked). The ECU only measures MAF, not MAP, so there is no way for it to know there is a leak except from lambda readings. Lambda sensors won't throw a fault till the engine is warm. So if the EML is on straight from engine start then it won't be from an 'unmetered air leak' IMHO.

When I replaced my engine ISTR there were 3 'faults'. I'd not plugged the EGR or the fuel tank breather solenoid in properly, and it threw the TC's from start-up. My money is on something similar since the Plenium must have been off to do the cam belt. But all should be revealed if we can get Lizze to read the codes  ::)

Yep, I will try to tomorrow to help resolve the issue - I hope! ::) ::)  ;D

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Omega General Help / Re: Engine Management Light On
« on: 07 August 2023, 17:49:03 »
Either the purge valve to intake vent hose or smaller crankcase breather hose.

No reason for that to just fall off unless the hose has degraded or it wasn't refitted correctly.

All four left the factory with crimp clamps fitted.

And the pedal trick will tell you what the code is.

This hose became further split at the end when last fitted by me, and there was no clamp.  Serek had to take these off when doing the cam belt last week, and, no fault on his part, the hose split a little further when refitting, but lasted until today when it started to leak.  Have refitted with a jubilee clip, but the Light remains on. ;)

When I do the major service later this year, I will replace this hose. :)
I smell roses.

How do you know I absolutely love roses? ??? ;D ;D ;D ;)

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General Car Chat / Re: Great SEREK SERVICE again
« on: 07 August 2023, 16:54:52 »
Is it repairable?

This is a different question to being written off or beyond repair.

 Insurance will write it off, ass the work on retail for all parts, also lots of Omega is NLS, you have to fight to keep write offs, that's why you never let them take the car to a "repairer" always have it recovered to your home address ..

Oh yes, how true that is!

I regret to this day that my green 2.5 Omega went into a "repairer", only for the insurance company to  just say "beyond economical repair" when it just had the offside rear light  section pushed in.   :'( :'( :'(

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Omega General Help / Re: Engine Management Light On
« on: 07 August 2023, 16:49:20 »
I'd be surprised if any of the pipes on the back of that breather can cause the EML light to come on. ECU only knows what the various sensors tell it, and AFAIK nothing measures anything in the breathers.

More likely to be an electrical connection off one of the various sensors, actuators or valves that are part of the plenium. The ECU does know if they're unplugged - it basically measures their resistance, and if that resistance is out of limits then EML on. As others say - get the codes read, or do the pedal trick.

Thanks :y

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General Car Chat / Re: Great SEREK SERVICE again
« on: 07 August 2023, 15:54:15 »
Is it repairable?

This is a different question to being written off or beyond repair.

Bit of filler and a polish. Proper job!  :y   ;D
;D

That said, a door ding would write an Omega off.

Unless you talk constructively to the insurance company as I did after more than a ding in 2017.  They wanted to write it off, but I retorted "find me another 3.2 Omega with that mileage" to replace then.  They agreed to give me a payout, £1,211 (after the Compulsory excess), to cover a good chunk of the repair costs.  :D ;)

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Omega General Help / Re: Engine Management Light On
« on: 07 August 2023, 15:43:54 »
Either the purge valve to intake vent hose or smaller crankcase breather hose.

No reason for that to just fall off unless the hose has degraded or it wasn't refitted correctly.

All four left the factory with crimp clamps fitted.

And the pedal trick will tell you what the code is.

This hose became further split at the end when last fitted by me, and there was no clamp.  Serek had to take these off when doing the cam belt last week, and, no fault on his part, the hose split a little further when refitting, but lasted until today when it started to leak.  Have refitted with a jubilee clip, but the Light remains on. ;)

When I do the major service later this year, I will replace this hose. :)

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Omega General Help / Re: Engine Management Light On
« on: 07 August 2023, 14:10:21 »
Which pipe or hose? I ask as that may have a bearing on why the light came on.

Notwithstanding how it came off to begin with :-\

Yes, sorry I didn't make that clear, it is one of the four breather hoses into the rear of the plenum.  It is one of the two smallest pipes inside the other larger ones. ;)

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Omega General Help / Re: Engine Management Light On
« on: 07 August 2023, 14:08:15 »
Needs a code reader to check the code, and reset if it related to the loose hose. Your 3.2 is OBD compliant, so any basic tool ought to work.

Thanks Nick :y

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General Car Chat / Re: Great SEREK SERVICE again
« on: 07 August 2023, 13:26:37 »
Yes my appointment was for tomorrow with Mr Serek, but unfortunately 12.5 years of Mv6 ownership came to an abrupt end yesterday literally 5 mins having just spent hundreds of ££s on 4 x new Bridgestones with less than 1 mile on them. backend went into a slide which i tried desperately to correct, I'm no rally driver, after that it was me and central reservation barrier. Thank God there was no else on the road. the motor is now scrap, interesting the previous tyres where Michelin pilot sport and they never did that..

That is incredible bad luck! :o :o :o

The car may be a right off and another Omega gone, but at least you are ok. ;)


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Omega General Help / Engine Management Light On
« on: 07 August 2023, 13:23:50 »
A pipe came loose from the back of the plenum and the Engine Management Light came on.  Fixed the pipe, but the light is remaining on.

What do you think is wrong?  Will the light go out eventually?

How to fix please?

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General Car Chat / Re: Great SEREK SERVICE again
« on: 03 August 2023, 20:35:57 »
Result!

Never knew Dunelm did food. Makes sense .

Thanks Varche. :y :y

Yes, their breakfast in a bun is really good, which certainly impressed my McDonalds loving grandson! ;D ;D

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General Car Chat / Re: Great SEREK SERVICE again
« on: 03 August 2023, 20:34:05 »
It's great when you can get your vehicles looked after properly, regular expert maintenance certainly pays dividends in my opinion, I hope you enjoy many more years with your Omega Lizzie..👍

Thanks Rangie :y :y

Yes, I have got to that age when a real expert we can trust should maintain my car.  Although I will still do some of the smaller maintenance myself, the bigger stuff will be for Serek to do :D ;)

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