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[2boxerdogs]

Just driven past my local Vauxhall dealership & they've got a dark green Omega amongst all the newish cars on the forecourt , it has £4000 sprayed on the side of it advertising their scrappage scheme so good time to get rid of the old barges.😀

[dave the builder]

"£4000 towards your finance deposit"
and only on certain models

good time to get rid of the old barges.😀

OR
spend some time and money extending the life of the "old barge" saving thousands of pounds and enjoy luxury motoring for years to come   

[johnnydog]

Trouble is, like when previous scrapped schemes are on,  cars that aren't destined for the grave yard in the sky end up bring traded in for the so called 'good deal'. Once part of the scrapped scheme, there's no going back. The car cannot go back on the road, even if it is totally roadworthy.
The scrapped scheme is just another ploy to get new cars out of the showroom. If customers actually sat down and worked out how they are paying per annum, against the depreciation, then I'm sure it would be an eye opener for them. A good 3 year old car is financially more viable, but the stigma of a brand new car on the drive is more important for some than the financial side of it.
It's also geared to the monthly outlay - the only question salesmen ask is  'How much do you wamt to pay a month Sir?' and the total cost payable over the term by the customer is rarely mentioned.
But that's what the majority of people consider - the monthly outlay.  A bit like a mortgage - how much is it going to cost each month not for how long, or the total expenditure, which is frightening...

[2boxerdogs]

Personally I wouldn't touch any of these "special deals" with a barge pole I'm as, who anyone knows me financially astute ..😀 and would rather drive a bargain than a eurobox.

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

I've looked into PCP deals and they are a very expensive way of not owning a car.

They only make (some) sense if you make they final balloon payment which 90% of people don't.

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

"£4000 towards your finance deposit"[/highlight]
and only on certain models

good time to get rid of the old barges.😀

OR
spend some time and money extending the life of the "old barge" saving thousands of pounds and enjoy luxury motoring for years to come   

Dealers have little interest in selling cars. They have far more interest in selling expensive finance and ridiculous overpriced add-on crap such as paint and alloy wheel protection.

[Andy B]

..... I'm as, who anyone knows me financially astute ..😀 ......

Is that the same as 'being careful with money'? 

[BazaJT]

No it's the same as being a tight arse and there's nowt wrong with that

[Lizzie Zoom]

 I also would not touch these offers

OK you get £4,000 against a new car, but then have still thousands to pay, including a huge amount of taxes, then immediate thousands of pounds depreciation as you drive away from the forecourt!

Replace my Omega for just £4,000; no thanks!!

[Sir Tigger KC]

Do Vauxhall produce anything worth buying new? 

[dave the builder]

Do Vauxhall produce anything worth buying new? 

the trade club oil is ok 
that i do buy brand new and stomach the depreciation 
cars no,the last new one we brought  (ex demo astra 1.4 ) was 2002 

[STEMO]

Do Vauxhall produce anything worth buying new? 

Does any mainstream manufacturer make anything worth buying new? Just been looking at the astra K 1.6 cdti estate, £27K for the elite. In three years and 30,000 miles you will get one for 8-9K.

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

Do Vauxhall produce anything worth buying new? 

Does any mainstream manufacturer make anything worth buying new? Just been looking at the astra K 1.6 cdti estate, £27K for the elite. In three years and 30,000 miles you will get one for 8-9K.

Hard to imagine anybody being retarded enough to pay that.

[Sir Tigger KC]

Do Vauxhall produce anything worth buying new? 

Does any mainstream manufacturer make anything worth buying new? Just been looking at the astra K 1.6 cdti estate, £27K for the elite. In three years and 30,000 miles you will get one for 8-9K.

Hard to imagine anybody being retarded enough to pay that.

Yes when for similar money you could have this! 

Although I doubt they will give you £4000 for an Omega! 

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

Do Vauxhall produce anything worth buying new? 

Does any mainstream manufacturer make anything worth buying new? Just been looking at the astra K 1.6 cdti estate, £27K for the elite. In three years and 30,000 miles you will get one for 8-9K.

Hard to imagine anybody being retarded enough to pay that.

Yes when for similar money you could have this! 

Although I doubt they will give you £4000 for an Omega! 

Hmm.....new Astra or F-Type. I shall need time to decide.

[Kevin Wood]

Do Vauxhall produce anything worth buying new? 

Does any mainstream manufacturer make anything worth buying new? Just been looking at the astra K 1.6 cdti estate, £27K for the elite. In three years and 30,000 miles you will get one for 8-9K.

Hard to imagine anybody being retarded enough to pay that.

Yes when for similar money you could have this! 

Although I doubt they will give you £4000 for an Omega! 

Hmm.....new Astra or F-Type. I shall need time to decide.

Best to start off with the F type then graduate to the mighty Ashtray when you've got the hang of performance cars.

[BazaJT]

Trouble is if a F type doesn't meet your needs car wise but an Astra does then where is the point in wasting your money on the F type?

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

Trouble is if a F type doesn't meet your needs car wise but an Astra does then where is the point in wasting your money on the F type?

One is to endure the other is to enjoy. Life is short.

[BazaJT]

Yes I can quite see how an F type would need to be endured,two seater which is no good to man nor beast,ugly as sin and horrendous road tax[or whatever they're calling it this week]

[dave the builder]

plus that F type thing can't be fitted with a roof rack to get that impulse purchase set of mouseman drawers home 

[Raeturbo]

£4000!!  I’d consider £40,000  for mine to break even... Jesus Christ.... if it wasn’t for James ................I would be another grand or so in...

[STEMO]

Yes I can quite see how an F type would need to be endured,two seater which is no good to man nor beast,ugly as sin and horrendous road tax[or whatever they're calling it this week]

It would put  Opti in hospital, shaking his old Skelton to bits. 

[TheBoy]

The deals do work for some people.

For example, big bro (being a bit radio rental) likes his big Mercs, but is sensible enough to not want one beyond a couple of years old.  So he gets a 2 year deal or a few hundred quid a month, and hands back at the end.

The £16k he pays over 2yrs is far less than the depreciation on buying one...

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

The deals do work for some people.

For example, big bro (being a bit radio rental) likes his big Mercs, but is sensible enough to not want one beyond a couple of years old.  So he gets a 2 year deal or a few hundred quid a month, and hands back at the end.

The £16k he pays over 2yrs is far less than the depreciation on buying one...

What of the deposit?

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

plus that F type thing can't be fitted with a roof rack to get that impulse purchase set of mouseman drawers home 

I do agree that an F-Type is beyond impractical........most of the fun things in life are.

[Kevin Wood]

The deals do work for some people.

For example, big bro (being a bit radio rental) likes his big Mercs, but is sensible enough to not want one beyond a couple of years old.  So he gets a 2 year deal or a few hundred quid a month, and hands back at the end.

The £16k he pays over 2yrs is far less than the depreciation on buying one...

I suppose we all have different priorities. £16k for 2 years' motoring doesn't sound like much of a bargain to me. I spent less than half of that on my Omega and it's lasted me 12 years and counting.

[TheBoy]

The deals do work for some people.

For example, big bro (being a bit radio rental) likes his big Mercs, but is sensible enough to not want one beyond a couple of years old.  So he gets a 2 year deal or a few hundred quid a month, and hands back at the end.

The £16k he pays over 2yrs is far less than the depreciation on buying one...

What of the deposit?

None, unless he wants to tick the options list.

[TheBoy]

The deals do work for some people.

For example, big bro (being a bit radio rental) likes his big Mercs, but is sensible enough to not want one beyond a couple of years old.  So he gets a 2 year deal or a few hundred quid a month, and hands back at the end.

The £16k he pays over 2yrs is far less than the depreciation on buying one...

I suppose we all have different priorities. £16k for 2 years' motoring doesn't sound like much of a bargain to me. I spent less than half of that on my Omega and it's lasted me 12 years and counting.

Quite. It sounds like a bum deal to me. But he "must" have a S-Class for some reason I can't grasp, and given that, I do have to concede that his way is the cheapest way to achieve that.

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

The deals do work for some people.

For example, big bro (being a bit radio rental) likes his big Mercs, but is sensible enough to not want one beyond a couple of years old.  So he gets a 2 year deal or a few hundred quid a month, and hands back at the end.

The £16k he pays over 2yrs is far less than the depreciation on buying one...

What of the deposit?

None, unless he wants to tick the options list.

Ok.....so £16000 over  2 years is around £700 each month........so not buttons.

But as mentioned there is the depreciation to be considered.

What Merc does that money give him? ........not a 2 litre derv, I hope.

[STEMO]

The deals do work for some people.

For example, big bro (being a bit radio rental) likes his big Mercs, but is sensible enough to not want one beyond a couple of years old.  So he gets a 2 year deal or a few hundred quid a month, and hands back at the end.

The £16k he pays over 2yrs is far less than the depreciation on buying one...

Doesn't your brother have a business? Can he not use the car for company business and get a tax write off?

[TheBoy]

The deals do work for some people.

For example, big bro (being a bit radio rental) likes his big Mercs, but is sensible enough to not want one beyond a couple of years old.  So he gets a 2 year deal or a few hundred quid a month, and hands back at the end.

The £16k he pays over 2yrs is far less than the depreciation on buying one...

What of the deposit?

None, unless he wants to tick the options list.

Ok.....so £16000 over  2 years is around £700 each month........so not buttons.

But as mentioned there is the depreciation to be considered.

What Merc does that money give him? ........not a 2 litre derv, I hope.

This year, a 3l soot chucker.

[TheBoy]

The deals do work for some people.

For example, big bro (being a bit radio rental) likes his big Mercs, but is sensible enough to not want one beyond a couple of years old.  So he gets a 2 year deal or a few hundred quid a month, and hands back at the end.

The £16k he pays over 2yrs is far less than the depreciation on buying one...

Doesn't your brother have a business? Can he not use the car for company business and get a tax write off?

He can, but then gets butt raped with personal tax.  So its all swings and roundabouts.

[Viral_Jim]

He can, but then gets butt raped with personal tax.  So its all swings and roundabouts.

Unless you want to go full milk float, Company Car tax (if you're a higher rate tax payer at least) is absolutely epic, to the point where I don't know why anyone who can operate a calculator would choose to have one.   

[TheBoy]

He can, but then gets butt raped with personal tax.  So its all swings and roundabouts.

Unless you want to go full milk float, Company Car tax (if you're a higher rate tax payer at least) is absolutely epic, to the point where I don't know why anyone who can operate a calculator would choose to have one.   

Milk float doesn't work for him, he'd spend his entire life at motorway service stations, and time is money...

[2boxerdogs]

I've just put a deposit on the old Omega that's on the forecourt advertising the scrappage offer, after reading all your comments seemed like a good idea.😀😁😂

[STEMO]

I've just put a deposit on the old Omega that's on the forecourt advertising the scrappage offer, after reading all your comments seemed like a good idea.😀😁😂

That's the reason that you know the whole offer is a crock of shite. Anyone can buy an old banger for £50 and get £4000 off a new car. They might as well just put a sign up saying 'Four grand off'.

[2boxerdogs]

I've just put a deposit on the old Omega that's on the forecourt advertising the scrappage offer, after reading all your comments seemed like a good idea.😀😁😂

That's the reason that you know the whole offer is a crock of shite. Anyone can buy an old banger for £50 and get £4000 off a new car. They might as well just put a sign up saying 'Four grand off'.

.   Lots of mugs about Stemo..

[STEMO]

Latest one from Vauxhall......trade up. I can't be bothered to explain, so.....

https://www.vauxhall.co.uk/sales-event.html?ppc=GOOGLE_700000001664021_71700000029727288_58700003690026666_p29011003059&_vsrefdom=mca&gclid=CLGSlqTE3-ICFcaI1Qod04wN5Q&gclsrc=aw.ds

[456lbft]

Do Vauxhall produce anything worth buying new? 

Does any mainstream manufacturer make anything worth buying new? Just been looking at the astra K 1.6 cdti estate, £27K for the elite. In three years and 30,000 miles you will get one for 8-9K.

Hard to imagine anybody being retarded enough to pay that.

I paid £4500 for an Omega, now that probably does qualify me for a padded cell..!

[dave the builder]

I paid £4500 for an Omega, now that probably does qualify me for a padded cell..!

you paid a premium , but that included a private plate,provenance of history etc
Omega prices are slowly going up for decent cared for cars.
Vauxhalls will never command the money that rusty old Fords make though ,
but many people pay for brand new cars and loose £5k in depreciation in one year alone 
you have a £4.5k toy ,look after it and enjoy it   

[Migv6 le Frog Fan]

That is one of the very few Omegas that could turn out to be a reasonable long term investment. 

[TheBoy]

Every Omega I've had has been a decent investment IMHO.  The first cost me just under £3200 in 2003, and served me well for 14yrs.  Thats less than £300 a year depreciation.  TBE cot a little more, though sub £4k, and is still giving good service.  All the others I've made more back from by selling than I paid.

But none were destined to be a classic in 30yrs

[Migv6 le Frog Fan]

A one off Bugatti wouldn't be destined to become a classic after being driven by you for a few years. 

[456lbft]

I paid £4500 for an Omega, now that probably does qualify me for a padded cell..!

you paid a premium , but that included a private plate,provenance of history etc
Omega prices are slowly going up for decent cared for cars.
Vauxhalls will never command the money that rusty old Fords make though ,
but many people pay for brand new cars and loose £5k in depreciation in one year alone 
you have a £4.5k toy ,look after it and enjoy it   

Thanks for your reassurance, it all helps. I know it's probably the closest I'll get to a road going toy, all the others are track only. It drives better than most of the Lotus Carltons that I get to work on and look at what they are supposedly "worth". 

[2boxerdogs]

I paid £4500 for an Omega, now that probably does qualify me for a padded cell..!

you paid a premium , but that included a private plate,provenance of history etc
Omega prices are slowly going up for decent cared for cars.
Vauxhalls will never command the money that rusty old Fords make though ,
but many people pay for brand new cars and loose £5k in depreciation in one year alone 
you have a £4.5k toy ,look after it and enjoy it   

Thanks for your reassurance, it all helps. I know it's probably the closest I'll get to a road going toy, all the others are track only. It drives better than most of the Lotus Carltons that I get to work on and look at what they are supposedly "worth".

.   


Having seen pics of your car personally I think it's worth every penny  some of my colleagues thought I was bonkers paying £4500 for my old Merc ! Thing is I love it & that's all that counts..😎

[Phil]

......the whole offer is a crock of shite. Anyone can buy an old banger for £50 and get £4000 off a new car. They might as well just put a sign up saying 'Four grand off'.

Small print says you have to have owned the vehicle for 90 days minimum before trade in, event only runs for 30 days, so you cant just buy an old shitter and get 4k off, obviously the bean counters aren't quite that stupid

[STEMO]

......the whole offer is a crock of shite. Anyone can buy an old banger for £50 and get £4000 off a new car. They might as well just put a sign up saying 'Four grand off'.

Small print says you have to have owned the vehicle for 90 days minimum before trade in, event only runs for 30 days, so you cant just buy an old shitter and get 4k off, obviously the bean counters aren't quite that stupid

Small print, eh? I might start reading that one day.