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[amba]

I did try a bulb upgrade some time ago but unsure what type they were and the effect was still along way from hid lights.Will have a look at trying to get a shorter bulb to fit in foglight housing then take it from there.
I think cateramv6 had less problems as his fog lights were facelift style with clear lenses and from the pictures they have a much simpler fitting for the bulb..maybe answer is to fit face lift clear type fog lights to a mini facelift..can that be done or are mounting brackets all in wrong place?

[ngrainqey]

I did try a bulb upgrade some time ago but unsure what type they were and the effect was still along way from hid lights.Will have a look at trying to get a shorter bulb to fit in foglight housing then take it from there.
I think cateramv6 had less problems as his fog lights were facelift style with clear lenses and from the pictures they have a much simpler fitting for the bulb..maybe answer is to fit face lift clear type fog lights to a mini facelift..can that be done or are mounting brackets all in wrong place?

tbh unless your swapping to proper hid then halogen bulbs will never be as bright/as good but they're alot easier to swap and foglights are foglights not proper driving lights so aslong as they're matching in colour then does it really matter if they're hid or not?

what about these? they're normal halogen bulbs and quite good-i'v got the mainbeam version on mine and really are alot better than the rather pants standard ones!

http://www.europerformance.co.uk/pages/products/product_info.mhtml?product=384193

[TheBoy]

At my age I have no intention of looking like a "chav" it was when I saw a picture of  a omega with fog and low beams on and the colour was consistent I thought it would be worth exploring the option of fitting a HID kit in the fog lights.
When I looked at it closer it seemed that you could not get the xenon hid bulb to fit in the fog light housing as the rear light cap hit the bulb and the tip of the bulb was obstructed by the metal lens deffuser.

Sorry, in no way was I calling you a chav

What I was trying to say, if its a cosmetic thing, try the fake xenon bulbs that chavs fit as dipped/full beam to their corsas.

[TheBoy]

I did try a bulb upgrade some time ago but unsure what type they were and the effect was still along way from hid lights.Will have a look at trying to get a shorter bulb to fit in foglight housing then take it from there.
I think cateramv6 had less problems as his fog lights were facelift style with clear lenses and from the pictures they have a much simpler fitting for the bulb..maybe answer is to fit face lift clear type fog lights to a mini facelift..can that be done or are mounting brackets all in wrong place?

tbh unless your swapping to proper hid then halogen bulbs will never be as bright/as good but they're alot easier to swap and foglights are foglights not proper driving lights so aslong as they're matching in colour then does it really matter if they're hid or not?

what about these? they're normal halogen bulbs and quite good-i'v got the mainbeam version on mine and really are alot better than the rather pants standard ones!

http://www.europerformance.co.uk/pages/products/product_info.mhtml?product=384193

They are plain and simple FOG lights, and thus must only be used when its FOGGY.

One of my pet hates.

[Andy B]

......They are plain and simple FOG lights, and thus must only be used when its FOGGY.
 ......

 ...... and falling snow!    

[TheBoy]

......They are plain and simple FOG lights, and thus must only be used when its FOGGY.
 ......

 ...... and falling snow!    

never had to myself  :-/, but then we don't get snow darn sarf...

[amba]

No offence taken.....just my curiosity when I saw a phot of a omega with the same colour fog lights and low beam and wondered how they did it,as mine has xenon headlights which give a very white light and on the few occasions when I need to legally use the fog lights they look like a differnt car is wearing them ...so I suppose it would be cosmetic,but like you I disslike those who drive around with every available light on in the middle of day.

[feeutfo]

dont have a problem with front fogs on , but rear fogs when not foggy just drives me nuts, if its raining they dazel the wind screen and blur real brake lights just enough to make you doubt for a second... but more than that, how can people drive round with a bloody great warning light on the dash and not notice   what else are they not noticeing, motor bikes, pedestrain crossings, cyclists,... flat tires, oil warning lights,buggered wipers, a sure sign of head up arse syndrome...muppets. ok done now  

[amba]

I thought it was illegal to drive with front fog lights on except when visibility was poor.If that is the case I must either live in a area of extremley poor visibility for 365 days a year or an area exempt from any form of road traffice law enforcement.
Cannot understand why it is necessary to have 2 x 55 watt headlights on and 2 x 55 watt front fog lights on in a town centre which has more street lighting than a football stadium..now I wear specs some of the time but that is taking the pi........z

[feeutfo]

I thought it was illegal to drive with front fog lights on except when visibility was poor.If that is the case I must either live in a area of extremley poor visibility for 365 days a year or an area exempt from any form of road traffice law enforcement.
Cannot understand why it is necessary to have 2 x 55 watt headlights on and 2 x 55 watt front fog lights on in a town centre which has more street lighting than a football stadium..now I wear specs some of the time but that is taking the pi........z

No excuse for not seeing you...usually by people with rear fogs on. Dont use front fogs on this car, has hids and fog light is poor. Old mig lights where so poor, needed all the help poss.

[RichardH]

I don't know if it was a picture of my car that you saw, but I wasnt happy with the yellow look of my front fogs so I bought a cheap set of bulbs from Ebay and whacked them in.  Looks a lot better I think.

Before



After

[Marks DTM Calib]

Yes, does look much better.

As for the fogs use....remember that they are an uncontroled light....and hence can be considered as similar to that of a high beam!

I always describe them as tosser lights.

As for using them in snow.....cant see them doing much more than adding extra light. They work in fog because they are low down and fog does not actually go totaly to the ground.....hence they cut under the fog

[TheBoy]

Tempted to change my fogs now...  ...so has anyone tried normal chavvy xenon bulbs?  I have to remove the bumper on MV6 soon anyway, so will be ideal opportunity to swap bulbs...

[ngrainqey]

Tempted to change my fogs now...  ...so has anyone tried normal chavvy xenon bulbs?  I have to remove the bumper on MV6 soon anyway, so will be ideal opportunity to swap bulbs...

for the fogs or main beam?

[RichardH]

My fogs are the "chavvy xenon bulbs" as you call them, and are not proper HID's.  Got them on Ebay for about a tenner.

I checked my Ebay account and the seller I bought them from is no longer listed.  Here was the description though for the ones I bought.

HB3 9005 12V 55W 6500K XENON GAS BULBS MAIN DIPPED FOG