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[Diamond Black Geezer]

Just a quickie...

got a mate who's complaining his 3.2 Elites colour display has a habit of working 'when it wants to'

Question 1) Is this an irreparably knackered screen, or is there a repair?

Also heard talk of fitting the colour screen to another head unit (eg: '00my CDX, CCR 2006) thus getting a colour screen, is possible.

Question 2) Have I been led up a certain garden path on this one?

Many thanks, in advance people.

[tunnie]

what are the symptoms? colour screens can be repaired, PM TheBoy or DaveDND, but its risky they easily break.

Replacement screens can be coded to headunits, but they must be set in 'delivery mode' otherwise they can't be paired. Also have a faint memory that the head unit has to be in delivery mode too  :-/

[Andy H]

I think it is only the NCDC sat nav units that work with the graphics screens (GID/mono or CID/colour).

The manufacturers (Sharp) seem to have stopped making the LCD screens that are used in the CID units so repairs aren't possible any more.

Alfa Romeo used the same Sharp screens in their colour displays. Don't know if that would provide an alternative source of parts for refurbishment :-/

[VXL V6]

Question 1) It's the Sharp LCD panel at fault
Question 2) Nah, 'fraid not!

[tunnie]

sorry just noticed you wanted the screen to a 2006 unit, no that won't work, only NCDC units as previously mentioned

[Mr Hagon]

I would guess it's the same problem I had in that the screen would work when it wanted to then eventually gave up and just went white.

If you can get hold of a replacement panel that seems to be the only fix.  In the end I used BBA-reman as some other people have but you're still talking a good few hundred quid for them to source the panel and test it.  Then again that's about half The £1173 + VAT and fitting a stealer would have off you...

[TheBoy]

The panels are difficult to get hold of now.

The CIDs and GIDs only work on NCDx range of radios (ignoring the newer range of screens/radios that won't work in Omega anyway).


If anyone has a broken CID that they no longer want, I may be interested in buying, particularly if you have the pairing code, as I have a couple of CIDs with broken electronics.

[Diamond Black Geezer]

Many thanks people!

All's I know is that the screen has a habit of not working every now and then. Unfortunately I cant give you more detail than that, as I haven't even seen the car, I just got a txt out of the blue, as he heard I knew a thing or two about Vaux's. (but not everything!!)


So if anyone had a replacement NCDC 2015, how much would he have to pay?
What would his 'broke' ICE be worth, less- the screen? It's the 2015 with the Bose, by the way.

Ta!

[TheBoy]

Many thanks people!

All's I know is that the screen has a habit of not working every now and then. Unfortunately I cant give you more detail than that, as I haven't even seen the car, I just got a txt out of the blue, as he heard I knew a thing or two about Vaux's. (but not everything!!)


So if anyone had a replacement NCDC 2015, how much would he have to pay?
What would his 'broke' ICE be worth, less- the screen? It's the 2015 with the Bose, by the way.

Ta!

its the screen thats faulty, not the 2015.

Depaired, perfect 2013/2015 headunit (on its own), probably worth around £150-200.

Depaired, perfect CID worth £300-500

[TheBoy]

And specialist equip needed to marry new units together

[Diamond Black Geezer]

Right...

Sounds like the 'specialist equipment' is a Tech2 to 'depair' the unit and screen.

I take it there's no other way to do this? (I'm assuming It's not like my stereo, where you can choose to have the thing with a code, or without. eg: if you want to disconnect the battery.) Will these cheapy tech2s that you install onto a lap-top do the trick as well?

I've got a mate down here who is happy to have a go at repairing the screen, but by the sounds of it, it cant just removed from the car without fouling it up. So he needs someone in Newcastle who can do the Tech2 thing, so he can post the screen down to me...

anyone know anybody in Newcastle with Tech2 competence? Please let me know!

Thanks.

[hotel21]

As I understand it, T2 is the only way to depair/pair.  I am in East Central Scotland with other T2's at Brackley, Nottingham and Hampshire.

Suggest the only other option is to pop round the back of your nearest VX dealer at tea break/lunchtime and ask one of the techs if they fancied a contribution to their choccy biscuit fund....

[TheBoy]

it will always have a pairing code. This is not the same as an old fashioned code you have to enter after disconnecting battery.

When switched on, all devices in the chain all have to negotiate with each other, and exchange credentials.  This includes Headunit, CD Changer (even though on that model its integral to HU, its electronically a seperate unit), screen and telematics.

All devices have to be present, and the code used to pair has to be known.

Genuine, real Tech2 is only safe way.  Other devices costing several £100s can do it, but not reliably.

[Diamond Black Geezer]

Interesting...


Ive been looking at what other have been saying about this pairing / depairing thing... I can understand/appreciate how it is a vital procedure, to guard against making the whole thing worthless! But at the moment this paring seems to 'communicate' between Head Unit, Autochanger and Screen, but no mention of the actual car being in the loop.

Therefore, can someone tell me why, for example an Omega Elite with a disconnected battery could not have its NCDC2015 removed, and installed into another Omega Elite. Assuming nothing is powered up without everyting being connected, surely neither Head Unit, Autochanger or CID are aware that they have been moved into another vehicle...

Is this the case?

[TheBoy]

Interesting...


Ive been looking at what other have been saying about this pairing / depairing thing... I can understand/appreciate how it is a vital procedure, to guard against making the whole thing worthless! But at the moment this paring seems to 'communicate' between Head Unit, Autochanger and Screen, but no mention of the actual car being in the loop.

Therefore, can someone tell me why, for example an Omega Elite with a disconnected battery could not have its NCDC2015 removed, and installed into another Omega Elite. Assuming nothing is powered up without everyting being connected, surely neither Head Unit, Autochanger or CID are aware that they have been moved into another vehicle...

Is this the case?

In the case of Omega and NCDX range, you can move it between cars, as long as all paired parts are moved.  (there will be some rewiring to do if yours had ccr2006).

This is not the case for newer systems in newer cars.