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Title: Vauxhall Parts Are Increasing In Price
Post by: Lizzie Zoom on 06 September 2019, 18:02:46
I, and I know a number of you, have noted how Vx genuine Omega parts are increasing in value, significantly, and that is if you can get them at all!

Four years ago I decided to replace the door solenoids on both the front passenger and rear nearside doors after they started to fade in performance, which told me after past experiences they needed to be replaced:  One was £60.00 the other £63.10 after TC, but plus VAT.

Two days ago the drivers door solenoid starter to go, and finally gave up the ghost yesterday.  Phoned my friendly local Vx Parts guy, who knows me very well (!!) and got a quote for Part No. 90493702:  £102.60 after TC, but inc. VAT!!

After I gulped, he agreed the prices had gone up, and suggested - if I needed it - that I source the part from others. At least, I suppose the part is still available! ::) ::)

I have always tried to replace my Omega parts with brand new genuine Vx / GM ones, but with this I have found a German (where else!!) based company, with UK contact numbers - Onlinecarparts.co.uk - who will supply a brand new solenoid for £58.19 all in!

Much better 8) 8) :)

No doubt someone will suggest a cheaper price elsewhere, or buy second hand which I try not to do (although a s/h solenoid cost me £29.99, all in, 5 years ago), but at that price I cannot be bothered to chase around for a part that is just a few quid different! :D

But I can understand as our cars get older and rarer that these prices will go up, but by that much.... :o :o ;D ;D :)
Title: Re: Vauxhall Parts Are Increasing In Price
Post by: dave the builder on 06 September 2019, 18:14:09
deepest sympathy for your financial loss Lizzie
plus side .....
£60 is about 1 weeks depreciation if you owned a crappy Euro sh!tbox car like some of the Lemmings  ;)
Title: Re: Vauxhall Parts Are Increasing In Price
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 06 September 2019, 18:22:29
I think you must be the last person alive to buy a new Omega power sounder, Lizzie...... ::) ::) :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-*
Title: Re: Vauxhall Parts Are Increasing In Price
Post by: Lizzie Zoom on 06 September 2019, 18:29:26
I think you must be the last person alive to buy a new Omega power sounder, Lizzie...... ::) ::) :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-*

Yes indeed, I probably was Opti! ;D ;D ;)

It has now been disconnected and removed like all the others on the OOF!  ::) ::):y :y
Title: Re: Vauxhall Parts Are Increasing In Price
Post by: Lizzie Zoom on 06 September 2019, 18:31:07
deepest sympathy for your financial loss Lizzie
plus side .....
£60 is about 1 weeks depreciation if you owned a crappy Euro sh!tbox car like some of the Lemmings  ;)

That is how I see things, which justifies, rightly or wrongly, my aim to continue with my Omega until the bitter end :D ;)
Title: Re: Vauxhall Parts Are Increasing In Price
Post by: Nick W on 06 September 2019, 18:33:22
They've gone up in price, not value.
You're paying for GM keeping them in stock. At some point a decision will be made not to keep them, and they'll be binned.
Title: Re: Vauxhall Parts Are Increasing In Price
Post by: Lizzie Zoom on 06 September 2019, 18:57:34
They've gone up in price, not value.
You're paying for GM keeping them in stock. At some point a decision will be made not to keep them, and they'll be binned.

Yes, indeed, not nice for us old, loyal, customers of Vx, but the truth! :'( :'(.

The door solenoid is a case in point.  My Vx guy says they are still instock, and when I asked him for what cars do they fit he stated...."well, the Corsa B up to 1998 and the Calibra up to about the same time, the Omega........."  Not much of a reason for a major car manufacturer to expensively hold the parts for those!! :o :o :'( :'( :'(
Title: Re: Vauxhall Parts Are Increasing In Price
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 06 September 2019, 19:26:29
I think you must be the last person alive to buy a new Omega power sounder, Lizzie...... ::) ::) :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-*

Yes indeed, I probably was Opti! ;D ;D ;)

It has now been disconnected and removed like all the others on the OOF!  ::) ::):y :y

I had one which you could have had for free. A bit melted and sooty but otherwise OK..... ;) :-* :-* :-* :-*
Title: Re: Vauxhall Parts Are Increasing In Price
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 06 September 2019, 19:31:30
To be clear, something has gone up by £27 in the space of four years and you don't understand why ???
Title: Re: Vauxhall Parts Are Increasing In Price
Post by: TheBoy on 07 September 2019, 08:51:31
In the specific case of the door lock, it needs a 50p switch, and about 20mins of your time (plus solenoid removal/refit to car).  See Kevin Wood's excellent guide.  Personally, I replace the switch as soon as I remove the old one, and then keep that solenoid* on the shelf ready for next time.


Obviously, most of these parts will be priced in euros, so we do get hit hard when the pound is low for extended periods.  After the end of next month, remember there is another 10% minimum increase on everything.


*Obviously its not a solenoid, its a sort of non feedback servo.
Title: Re: Vauxhall Parts Are Increasing In Price
Post by: Lizzie Zoom on 07 September 2019, 11:59:04
I think you must be the last person alive to buy a new Omega power sounder, Lizzie...... ::) ::) :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-*

Yes indeed, I probably was Opti! ;D ;D ;)

It has now been disconnected and removed like all the others on the OOF!  ::) ::):y :y

I had one which you could have had for free. A bit melted and sooty but otherwise OK..... ;) :-* :-* :-* :-*

Ah, that's lovely Opti! :-* :-* 8) :y

Keep it for now as who knows, with the new part coming from a trader I have never dealt with before, the curse of TB could strike, and then I will lovingly take up your offer! ;D ;D :-* :-* :)
Title: Re: Vauxhall Parts Are Increasing In Price
Post by: Lizzie Zoom on 07 September 2019, 12:04:57
To be clear, something has gone up by £27 in the space of four years and you don't understand why ???

If I was using my commercial brain DG I would know exactly why, but acting as a standard "someone who wants to pay no more than I have to but still want the same quality; have my cake and eat it".............................I want it for a price just above inflation, no more, no less.!! ::) ::) ::).

Still the new part is less than what I paid four years ago, even with P&P and no TC, and comes from Germany! What could possibly go wrong? ::) ::) ;D ;D ;)
Title: Re: Vauxhall Parts Are Increasing In Price
Post by: Lizzie Zoom on 07 September 2019, 12:07:13
In the specific case of the door lock, it needs a 50p switch, and about 20mins of your time (plus solenoid removal/refit to car).  See Kevin Wood's excellent guide.  Personally, I replace the switch as soon as I remove the old one, and then keep that solenoid* on the shelf ready for next time.


Obviously, most of these parts will be priced in euros, so we do get hit hard when the pound is low for extended periods.  After the end of next month, remember there is another 10% minimum increase on everything.


*Obviously its not a solenoid, its a sort of non feedback servo.

Thanks, that's a great tip TB! :y :y  I had completely forgotten that guide, so if I can I will try and repair ;)
Title: Re: Vauxhall Parts Are Increasing In Price
Post by: Diamond Black Geezer on 07 September 2019, 20:54:09
I try, where possible to fit Genuine GM - at this stage these parts have lasted about a quarter of century, so why not fit the same again? However, as you say, some prices are, well, laughable

Days ago I found a weep coming form my aux. coolant pump (the one by the rad), Vauxhall want £140 +  ;D :o. I could have a noname for about £20-30, a used one for about the same (!) or a brand new genuine Bosch made in Germany one for £45, which I went for. Bosch made the original, same stamps as the one I took off, just missing the GM and 90123456... number.

Still more than I'd have liked to have paid, but I spend most of my time now googling part numbers, and checking out people who buy old Dealer stock, or people having clearouts. That's my tip if you prefer to use Genuine Vx where possible - there are other places other than the actual Stealer themselves, Lizzy.  :)
Title: Re: Vauxhall Parts Are Increasing In Price
Post by: STEMO on 07 September 2019, 21:53:02
I try, where possible to fit Genuine GM - at this stage these parts have lasted about a quarter of century, so why not fit the same again? However, as you say, some prices are, well, laughable

Days ago I found a weep coming form my aux. coolant pump (the one by the rad), Vauxhall want £140 +  ;D :o. I could have a noname for about £20-30, a used one for about the same (!) or a brand new genuine Bosch made in Germany one for £45, which I went for. Bosch made the original, same stamps as the one I took off, just missing the GM and 90123456... number.

Still more than I'd have liked to have paid, but I spend most of my time now googling part numbers, and checking out people who buy old Dealer stock, or people having clearouts. That's my tip if you prefer to use Genuine Vx where possible - there are other places other than the actual Stealer themselves, Lizzy.  :)
I find that, if you buy a newer car, you don't have to worry about stuff like this, and it probably works out cheaper.
Title: Re: Vauxhall Parts Are Increasing In Price
Post by: Lizzie Zoom on 07 September 2019, 22:14:44
I try, where possible to fit Genuine GM - at this stage these parts have lasted about a quarter of century, so why not fit the same again? However, as you say, some prices are, well, laughable

Days ago I found a weep coming form my aux. coolant pump (the one by the rad), Vauxhall want £140 +  ;D :o. I could have a noname for about £20-30, a used one for about the same (!) or a brand new genuine Bosch made in Germany one for £45, which I went for. Bosch made the original, same stamps as the one I took off, just missing the GM and 90123456... number.

Still more than I'd have liked to have paid, but I spend most of my time now googling part numbers, and checking out people who buy old Dealer stock, or people having clearouts. That's my tip if you prefer to use Genuine Vx where possible - there are other places other than the actual Stealer themselves, Lizzy.  :)

Thanks, it is a good tip. But I do already surf the web for availability and prices, but then I am taking a risk, like I am now with the firm in Germany, and more likely to be conned. If the part is not electrical, I am more inclined to buy secondhand from known sources like Omega 52. :y
Title: Re: Vauxhall Parts Are Increasing In Price
Post by: Nick W on 08 September 2019, 08:08:23
To be clear, something has gone up by £27 in the space of four years and you don't understand why ???

If I was using my commercial brain DG I would know exactly why, but acting as a standard "someone who wants to pay no more than I have to but still want the same quality; have my cake and eat it".............................I want it for a price just above inflation, no more, no less.!! ::) ::) ::) .

Still the new part is less than what I paid four years ago, even with P&P and no TC, and comes from Germany! What could possibly go wrong? ::) ::) ;D ;D ;)


Somebody will have put the wrong label on the storage bin, and you'll get a self-reciprocating side fumbling dingle arm? Which won't quite attach to your locking rods.....
Title: Re: Vauxhall Parts Are Increasing In Price
Post by: Lizzie Zoom on 08 September 2019, 10:35:27
To be clear, something has gone up by £27 in the space of four years and you don't understand why ???

If I was using my commercial brain DG I would know exactly why, but acting as a standard "someone who wants to pay no more than I have to but still want the same quality; have my cake and eat it".............................I want it for a price just above inflation, no more, no less.!! ::) ::) ::) .

Still the new part is less than what I paid four years ago, even with P&P and no TC, and comes from Germany! What could possibly go wrong? ::) ::) ;D ;D ;)


Somebody will have put the wrong label on the storage bin, and you'll get a self-reciprocating side fumbling dingle arm? Which won't quite attach to your locking rods.....

 ;D ;D ;D

Fortunately I have made sure I can return for a full refund and I may need to eh? :D :D ;)
Title: Re: Vauxhall Parts Are Increasing In Price
Post by: annihilator on 08 September 2019, 20:02:16
Ex colleague of mine who still works in vauxhall parts department says lots of prices have risen since Peugeot have taken over.
Title: Re: Vauxhall Parts Are Increasing In Price
Post by: ronnyd on 08 September 2019, 21:14:22
Ex colleague of mine who still works in vauxhall parts department says lots of prices have risen since Peugeot have taken over.
What a surprise.  ::) I blame Brexit. Oh, hang on. ;)
Title: Re: Vauxhall Parts Are Increasing In Price
Post by: Viral_Jim on 09 September 2019, 01:38:19
I find that, if you buy a newer car, you don't have to worry about stuff like this, and it probably works out cheaper.

Shhhh....

We, ahem.... 'eurobox-driving lemmings' are not welcome in threads such as this  :y
Title: Re: Vauxhall Parts Are Increasing In Price
Post by: dave the builder on 09 September 2019, 11:40:25

I find that, if you buy a newer car, you don't have to worry about stuff like this, and it probably works out cheaper.

Apart from wheel bearings ,injectors,and possibly gearboxes  :-\  :-X  ;D

We, ahem.... 'eurobox-driving lemmings' are not welcome in threads such as this  :y

crappy Euro sh!tbox  Lemmings  ;)
I was slightly misquoted  ;D

It's a great forum
people's differing opinions make for interesting reading
some OOFers have moved on and found alternative cars that suit their needs
some OOFers are enthusiasts ,or find the Omega to still be an economically viable means of conveyance

I applaud Lizzie for sticking with a car she loves ,even when it needs the occasional wad of cash throwing at it  :)
It's a similar wad of cash that secretly disappears from the of newer cars value......
BUT does not appear on the monthly spreadsheet  ::)

as well as being a D**k ,I'm also an enthusiast of the once great ,larger RWD Vauxhall Opel with a Vauxhall badge  :D ;D
Title: Re: Vauxhall Parts Are Increasing In Price
Post by: Diamond Black Geezer on 09 September 2019, 12:10:12
This is true. When I moved from the old Turbo Weasel to my V6 I sat and worked out a rough 'cost per mile' / '£ per month' costing from running at clapped out old banger Omega vs. a nice shiny Korean piece of Tupperware on finance. That factored in parts failing etc which won't shouldnt occur on a new car. Omega still came out cheaper.

We moved to a new city to live a couple of years ago, not a pot to micturate in, one student in the household, me on temp work/20 hrs a week with little overtime. She (My Omega) cost us about £40 in parts over that year, she looked after us :y

This year I'm in the middle of a big service, oil, filters, oil cooler, new pump, (see above) seals o rings etc and I'm currently only £140-odd spent which is a £10 note and some change per month over a year. Then we factor in the 'invisible' depreciation of said newer car.

Not ranting that 'old cars are better' because we have a newer car that's the daily driver for now, while Pissy is on axle stands in pieces, but I've always been an advocate of 'bangernomics'  :)
Title: Re: Vauxhall Parts Are Increasing In Price
Post by: STEMO on 09 September 2019, 12:48:49

I find that, if you buy a newer car, you don't have to worry about stuff like this, and it probably works out cheaper.

Apart from wheel bearings ,injectors,and possibly gearboxes  :-\  :-X  ;D

We, ahem.... 'eurobox-driving lemmings' are not welcome in threads such as this  :y

crappy Euro sh!tbox  Lemmings  ;)
I was slightly misquoted  ;D

It's a great forum
people's differing opinions make for interesting reading
some OOFers have moved on and found alternative cars that suit their needs
some OOFers are enthusiasts ,or find the Omega to still be an economically viable means of conveyance

I applaud Lizzie for sticking with a car she loves ,even when it needs the occasional wad of cash throwing at it  :)
It's a similar wad of cash that secretly disappears from the of newer cars value......
BUT does not appear on the monthly spreadsheet  ::)

as well as being a D**k ,I'm also an enthusiast of the once great ,larger RWD Vauxhall Opel with a Vauxhall badge  :D ;D
Wheel bearing...yes. The other two....no  :)
Title: Re: Vauxhall Parts Are Increasing In Price
Post by: Lizzie Zoom on 09 September 2019, 12:52:21
Ex colleague of mine who still works in vauxhall parts department says lots of prices have risen since Peugeot have taken over.

Yes, mine has ssid the same about obtaining Vx parts generally.  What will happen after, well you know The "B", if and when.............??!!

Makes you think!  :o :o :( :( :(

But as Dave has acknowledged, I will keep the Omega going for as long as humanly possible.  My spreadsheet figures that I mentioned in another thread a short while ago proved the logic as to why I should, let alone all the other benefits of the Omega 3.2 V6 Elite,with just 77K on the clock! 8) 8) :-* :-* ;D ;D ;)