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[78bex]

I was travelling east on my bike on the M27 this afternoon in very heavy slow moving traffic
I finally filtered my thru to the head of the conjested bit.
Only to find a Landy towing a trailor in lane 3 & a four deep convoy of caravans in lane 2.
Lane 1 was bogged down by a Micra not darin to exceed 45 MPH 
The m/way ahead of this rollin road block was fairly clear

[ted_one]

Happens all the time,wherever you go  in this country,the standard of driving has gone way down,it's now all about how you can pi** off other road users 100 metres ahead of you and 100 metres behind you.I honestly don't see the point of driving in the vague hope of getting a bit of 'pleasure' out of it,as all you are doing is defending yourself against the inevitable arrival of some selfish retarded headcase who is going to try and spoil your day,and let's face it there's certainly plenty of them out there

[Mister Rog]

Happens all the time,wherever you go  in this country,the standard of driving has gone way down,it's now all about how you can pi** off other road users 100 metres ahead of you and 100 metres behind you.I honestly don't see the point of driving in the vague hope of getting a bit of 'pleasure' out of it,as all you are doing is defending yourself against the inevitable arrival of some selfish retarded headcase who is going to try and spoil your day,and let's face it there's certainly plenty of them out there

Well Ken that's your week off to a good cheerful, happy, positive thinking start          

I drive quite a bit in France and this does not happen anything like as much as it does here. The British driver has a "why should I" attitude.

Why should I slow down to the speed of the lane that I'm in ?
Why should I move over ?
Why should I let the driver behind pass ?

So in a nutshell it's bloodymindedness

We all love to knock the French, but they have much better lane discipline. They will move over to let others pass, they only move into an outer lane to overtake etc. Mind you, their roads are not as crammed as ours, and the privately run toll roads end up being quite expensive on long runs. But overall they are just not as uptight as the Brits, except for the ones that drive at 80mph two metres from your exhaust pipe !

[Nick W]

French motorway driving tends to be better than here for the simple reason that they refuse to be bullied into the if all the traffic goes faster than 75.5739292746(approx)mph the world's rotation will reverse and the entire population will slowly die in screaming agony bullshit that we have foisted on us. The French along with most other Europeans expect(demand really) to make good progress on motorways, and that means efficiently getting out of the way of anyone travelling faster.


The flipside of this is that their standard of driving on rural roads is atrocious; where the rule seems to be do whatever the opps you want, even if that isn't physically possible within the available space/peformance envelope of your vehicle.

[Mister Rog]

French motorway driving tends to be better than here for the simple reason that they refuse to be bullied into the if all the traffic goes faster than 75.5739292746(approx)mph the world's rotation will reverse and the entire population will slowly die in screaming agony bullshit that we have foisted on us. The French along with most other Europeans expect(demand really) to make good progress on motorways, and that means efficiently getting out of the way of anyone travelling faster.


The flipside of this is that their standard of driving on rural roads is atrocious; where the rule seems to be do whatever the opps you want, even if that isn't physically possible within the available space/peformance envelope of your vehicle.

Agreed. But . . . . that also sounds like the driving in West Wales    We have the second highest road death rate in the country I think I read somewhere. Doesn't surprise me, the driving on the country roads round here is insane. They overtake in places where I wouldn't even consider it.

[ted_one]

The only positive thinking I have about driving is that,10% of the driving population have a total disregard for their own and others safety,and as far as I'm concerned they can go kill themselves and make it as messy as they wish,on the proviso that they don't involve any one else and they don't hold me up....tossers!

[Andy B]

The French do tend to sit on the bumper of the car in front  ..... I don't think they do it to intimidate though 

[Mister Rog]

The French do tend to sit on the bumper of the car in front  ..... I don't think they do it to intimidate though 

Unlike the Brits . . . . .

[Sir Tigger KC]

The main reason motorway driving is a joy in France compared to GB is that as a much bigger country with a similar population to ours the roads just arn't as congested.  Especially on the toll motorways as most French haulage companies won't pay the tolls so much of the HGV traffic is on the A roads (N Roads?)....

I've driven extensively across France and I don't believe French drivers are any more considerate or better than their British counterparts to be honest. 

[Andy B]

The French do tend to sit on the bumper of the car in front  ..... I don't think they do it to intimidate though 

Unlike the Brits . . . . .

Indeed

[TheBoy]

I agree the standard of driving here is shocking. A real 'opps you' attitude to other road users.

Driving abroad is so much more relaxing, even if the local roads, particularly in France, are full of pissed drivers...

[McBandy]

You think this is bad, try piloting a bus, we call it 'beat the bus' whether it's car driving idiots or idiots on foot or cycle mounted ones that don't give a shit the lights gone green they're crossing the road in front of a taxi (who was in the bus lane ) and a circa 15 tonne bus!

[Doctor Gollum]

You think this is bad, try piloting a bus, we call it 'beat the bus' whether it's car driving idiots or idiots on foot or cycle mounted ones that don't give a shit the lights gone green they're crossing the road in front of a taxi (who was in the bus lane ) and a circa 15 tonne bus!

Think you'll find that most bus lanes allow taxi use... Of course most professional drivers don't apply roadsigns to their employment...

[McBandy]

You think this is bad, try piloting a bus, we call it 'beat the bus' whether it's car driving idiots or idiots on foot or cycle mounted ones that don't give a shit the lights gone green they're crossing the road in front of a taxi (who was in the bus lane ) and a circa 15 tonne bus!

Think you'll find that most bus lanes allow taxi use... Of course most professional drivers don't apply roadsigns to their employment...

Oi don't tarnish my ability to announce "I'm a professional driver don't you know"

[Doctor Gollum]

There's a sign for that