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[Lookitt]

Hello,

After changed my battery on Omega X30XE years = 2000, I've seen that I haven't any sound from Radio, or Navigation, or Cd pLayer. Even if I turn the knob from station or from driving, nothing. I've looked at the fuse box but all is right. I've done something wrong ? Can you help me ?
Thanks

[ronnyd]

Have you put the code back in to activate the unit, IF you have it.?  Best of luck.

[Lookitt]

Thanks for you answer. 

No code is asked me. My station Siemens NCDC2013 works when I turn on the radio, CDC, Navigation, it's OK but no sound and no radio station. In station radio list, it's written 0 kHz instead of NRJ or other radio list. When I push AutoStore 10 seconds the station reboot and no code is asked me. So, I don't understand what I should do.

I think there's no one who had this problem, isn't it ? Mystery ? 

[jonny2112]

If all you did was in relation to the battery, then it does suggest a code issue if appropriate, or perhaps there is a more technical issue peculiar to 2013?

[Lookitt]

Yes it's arrived since I've changed my battery. Maybe a code is required but how or where write ? There's nothing asked on board computer 

[VXL V6]

Does this vehicle have Bose?

[zirk]

Does this vehicle have Bose?

Was just thinking that myself, Amp? 

[Lookitt]

Yes ! It's a Siemens NCDC 2013 with Bose Sound System 

[RobG]

Double check fuse #6 for the Bose amp.
If the radio can`t lock on to a radio station check the 12v "aerial' feed from back of radio.

[Lookitt]

I've already check fuse #6, it's Ok !
The 12v "aerial" from back of radio also.

[zirk]

Thanks for you answer. 

No code is asked me. My station Siemens NCDC2013 works when I turn on the radio, CDC, Navigation, it's OK but no sound and no radio station. In station radio list, it's written 0 kHz instead of NRJ or other radio list. When I push AutoStore 10 seconds the station reboot and no code is asked me. So, I don't understand what I should do.

I think there's no one who had this problem, isn't it ? Mystery ? 

No code is needed as the security feature on these HU's is that it is paired to the Radio Screen, having re read this, the displaying 0 Khz would worry me a bit, Im starting to wonder whether the HU has lost its on board configuration set up by disconnecting the Battery? 

Im guessing these have Flash Memory on board, if so, anyone know if the configuration file is in there somewhere in form of a erasable eprom or similar?   

[Lookitt]

Yes, I think there is a memory somewhere because after changed my battery, all stations radio were preserved.

I've forgotten to say that, if "0 kHz" is written instead of the name of radio, it's appaeared since after pressing "AS" button for 10 seconds wich restrated the NCDC2013. Before I touch this button, all radios was written on board but no sound. Now, all radios have disappeared and all 10 stations are written 0 kHz. Autostore doesn't work, I can't search radio, it doesn't work, the Update of radio list doesn't work. But navigation and CDC work...

[pscocoa]

EEPROM

http://fl0rian.wordpress.com/2013/04/10/fixing-the-ncdc-2015-0khz-failure/

[Lookitt]

 

Ouch !

Thanks for this link. It's more serious that I thought. 

I don't understand why nobody had this problem after battery changed. It's not explained in manual Opel or Vauxhall

[zirk]

theres been a couple of Posts lately where NCDC's have lost their coding or pairing after being disconnected from the battery for a while, which was one of the reasons I thought about yours losing its config settings.

[Dave DND]

Doesn`t the amp have its own fuse? - and I don`t mean the one on the fusebox, I mean on the amp itself?

[Lookitt]

I thought it was the fuse #6, for the amp. If there is another, I don't know where it is.

[Lookitt]

theres been a couple of Posts lately where NCDC's have lost their coding or pairing after being disconnected from the battery for a while, which was one of the reasons I thought about yours losing its config settings.

I didn't found those posts when I've launched the "search", you remember where are thoses posts ?

[ronnyd]

Your English is  far better than my French. Vive la France.

[Lookitt]

Merci beaucoup 

English is an international langage, for me, all people should know talking in English. My English is not perfect, I see today that I should have listened more at school. 

[pscocoa]

Maybe you listened - but there was no sound - because the amp was dead

[zirk]

theres been a couple of Posts lately where NCDC's have lost their coding or pairing after being disconnected from the battery for a while, which was one of the reasons I thought about yours losing its config settings.

I didn't found those posts when I've launched the "search", you remember where are thoses posts ?

In a word, no, seem to remember Albitz had an issue recently with it not working after not seeing 12V for a while, but fairly sure that was a code (pairing) issue, which I dont think id the same problem as you have.

Reading the eeprom post that pscocoa posted up, Im guessing the 24LC16 EEPROM is used for storing the Radio Memory List, could be that this problem is hanging the Tuner Mode side of things and stopping the Audio switching to CD Player playing and Nav sound (Guessing!), or the Tuner board could be faulty?

Shame your overseas, as dare say someone with a Tech 2 and knows what there doing could read any issues with the Unit and investigate more.

What happens when you push the BC button, do you still get all the Computer Info on the display?, if so this should rule out any Pairing Issues with the display?

Think if it was me, I would be tempted to remove fuses feeding the HU or better still remove the ISO Plug from behind it for a few hours or overnight, and see what happens, you never know, otherwise looks like a eeprom repair job.

[Andy B]

Merci beaucoup 

English is an international langage, for me, all people should know talking in English. My English is not perfect, I see today that I should have listened more at school. 

You obviously listened enough to make yourself understood here   

[Lookitt]

Merci beaucoup 

English is an international langage, for me, all people should know talking in English. My English is not perfect, I see today that I should have listened more at school. 

You obviously listened enough to make yourself understood here   

Thanks 

theres been a couple of Posts lately where NCDC's have lost their coding or pairing after being disconnected from the battery for a while, which was one of the reasons I thought about yours losing its config settings.

I didn't found those posts when I've launched the "search", you remember where are thoses posts ?

In a word, no, seem to remember Albitz had an issue recently with it not working after not seeing 12V for a while, but fairly sure that was a code (pairing) issue, which I dont think id the same problem as you have.

Reading the eeprom post that pscocoa posted up, Im guessing the 24LC16 EEPROM is used for storing the Radio Memory List, could be that this problem is hanging the Tuner Mode side of things and stopping the Audio switching to CD Player playing and Nav sound (Guessing!), or the Tuner board could be faulty?

Shame your overseas, as dare say someone with a Tech 2 and knows what there doing could read any issues with the Unit and investigate more.

What happens when you push the BC button, do you still get all the Computer Info on the display?, if so this should rule out any Pairing Issues with the display?

Think if it was me, I would be tempted to remove fuses feeding the HU or better still remove the ISO Plug from behind it for a few hours or overnight, and see what happens, you never know, otherwise looks like a eeprom repair job.

Thank you very much for your help. When I've changed the battery, there wasn't 12V for 3 minutes about. When I've started the engine, the Tunner was Ok (Nrj, Fun Radio etc..) only no sound. I've pressed "AS" button 10 sec and it has reboot. I'm sure, I've done a reset, lights of the station went out and then re-light.

I've seen in the manual, I have to put a 85Ah battery, but I put a 77Ah because all 85Ah are too long. I made a mistake ? Does it could be the cause ?

Tomorow, I'll take some pictures to show you. I've already contacted Opel and I'm waiting them to give me the solution.

The BC button is Ok, Computer Info is correct.

I think that EEprom is KO.

EEPROM

http://fl0rian.wordpress.com/2013/04/10/fixing-the-ncdc-2015-0khz-failure/

Florian's blog explains that EEprom doesn't like battery change without removing fuse before. It explain why it's written 0kHz instead of station radio. I' don't understand why this problem hasn't happened to others, you have all of you changed, one time, your battery ? And no one has gotten this problem... 

I think, I will buy the new EEprom and change it, I will do a post for forum. Thanks again for your help

[zirk]

Cant see the lower capacity Battery making any difference, unless your having starting issues now.

Good luck with Opel, I reckon they will just send you off to a dealer who just try and sell you new equipment, or worse ask you to contact Siemens VDO.

Did you try disconnecting the HU yet, via Fuses or rear plug, and leave it off for 12 - 24 nours?

[djcj1234]

Hi Guys,

I am new at this Forum stuff so please excuse me and bear with me.

I dont know if I am posting correctly or whether I am even in the right Forum Page.

I have a Corsa 2004 GSI with a CCRT 2008 Radio in, Recently it keeps cutting off the sound when the volume is either to loud or if the car reaches a certain speed.

Please can someone give me some advise as to what is causing this and how I can rectify the problem.

Many thanks,

Craig

[Lookitt]

Did you try disconnecting the HU yet, via Fuses or rear plug, and leave it off for 12 - 24 nours?

No, what's happen when you do that ?

Hi Guys,

I am new at this Forum stuff so please excuse me and bear with me.

I dont know if I am posting correctly or whether I am even in the right Forum Page.

I have a Corsa 2004 GSI with a CCRT 2008 Radio in, Recently it keeps cutting off the sound when the volume is either to loud or if the car reaches a certain speed.

Please can someone give me some advise as to what is causing this and how I can rectify the problem.

Many thanks,

Craig

Hi djcj1234,

try a new post please for your problem. Thanks

[05omegav6]

Quote from: zirk on 08 November 2013, 18:49:52

Did you trydisconnecting theHU yet, via Fuses or rear plug, and leave itofffor 12 - 24 nours?

No, what's happen when you do that ?

It resets the headunit

[Lookitt]

Quote from: zirk on 08 November 2013, 18:49:52

Did you trydisconnecting theHU yet, via Fuses or rear plug, and leave itofffor 12 - 24 nours?

No, what's happen when you do that ?

It resets the headunit

mhmm  ...Ok, I'll do that. Which fuse ? Do you know ? otherwise, I'll search

[05omegav6]

Just pull the radio out and unplug for 24+hrs

[Lookitt]

Just pull the radio out and unplug for 24+hrs

Well, ok I'll do tomorrow 

[Lookitt]

Hello, 

It's all right, after few month, I repaired the radio with the help of this  http://fl0rian.wordpress.com/2013/04/10/fixing-the-ncdc-2015-0khz-failure/ (thanks Florian)

Now, I know that change the battery without removing fuse #6 can cause damages to the EEPROM 24LC16. This Component keeps setting audio and radio station memory. If this component doesn't work, there's no audio and no radio. This component can be changed (it cost less than 0,8 GBP).

Below are pictures of the replacement and you need :

- Tools for removing the device from the car
- T8 Torx crewdriver
- Soldering equipment
- 24LC16 EEPROM (SMD, SO8 case)














 

[TheBoy]

Thanks for posting

[Dave DND]

Just pull the radio out and unplug for 24+hrs

Agreed - remove the head unit itself for 24 hours, as it allows everything inside to discharge fully. When refitted, it then boots up from cold, and can often start working again.

A bit like unplugging a computer for a while.

[PlPlN]

Hello,

After changed my battery on Omega X30XE years = 2000, I've seen that I haven't any sound from Radio, or Navigation, or Cd pLayer. Even if I turn the knob from station or from driving, nothing. I've looked at the fuse box but all is right. I've done something wrong ? Can you help me ?
Thanks

You've solved the problem with NCDC2013?