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Opel Spy Shots
« on: 25 August 2015, 20:45:16 »

Came across these pictures on my news feed. Looks too big to be an Insignia unless the next model is going to be bigger  :-\







http://www.thepavilionlmg.com/2018-holden-commodore-captured/
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Re: Opel Spy Shots
« Reply #1 on: 25 August 2015, 20:58:07 »

Insignia "CC" maybe?

Like the Passat CC compared to normal passat?  :-\

Commodore has been doing circles for year now
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Re: Opel Spy Shots
« Reply #2 on: 25 August 2015, 22:08:58 »

Front end looks fugly , especially that grill  ::)
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Re: Opel Spy Shots
« Reply #3 on: 26 August 2015, 09:40:39 »

So there sticking with the compromised design around the rear seat headroom.....fail!
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Re: Opel Spy Shots
« Reply #4 on: 26 August 2015, 12:02:32 »

Worry not about the 'carscoops' rendering, that's a mishmash of various photos which often get touted as 'first pictures of the next generation --- ' not saying that's not close to the production version, but it's just someone's idea of what the next one will look like. They've taken cues from the Monza concept from a while back.

I'm assuming they're following the current trend for re-skins of the current model, as with the Corsa and (pretty sure) the next Astra, too. Remeber when these were all being designed when the 2007-on recession had hit like a sledgehammer, and the first place to cut corners is design. Now that doesn't translate as 'let's employ cheaper designers who will make uglier cars' but it does translate as 'engines are stuck, they have to meet emissions regs, safety, well, everything's already getting NCAP 5 stars, so basic safety cell/chassic architecture can remain the same. If we change the panels, but keep the underpinnings roughly the same, then we have shaved maybe a couple of hundred million off the cost of design.' (yes it is that much money we're talking about saving)

Also note that we're already into 7 years for the Insignia, pushing geriatric compared with the industry standard 5-6 years, and it's launched next year. That's another symptom of cost-cutting, everyone's doing it, all cars have had their lifespans extended by a year or two, possibly partially down to the reduced sales of the last half-decade means that the tooling is not yet reaching the end of its usable life.

Irritating coupe-like roofline with poor rear seat access, and awful rear visibility, harsh, crashy handling, and lots of hard interior plastics and electronic handbrakes plus even less things you can work on up your drive are all goiong to be as-standard, however, that's for sure!  :y
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Re: Opel Spy Shots
« Reply #5 on: 26 August 2015, 12:28:02 »

Not the case though, the new Astra has a very different structural design (Delta 2 for the J migrating to the D2xx for the K) which is shaving a few 100 Kg off the weight

Cant see the Insignia Epsilon platform changing greatly as, to be honest, it doesn't need to yet.

So no, not true, in fact GM are probably spending more on platform and engine development than they have for a long time (and must have been for a fair few years given how long it takes to do this design work)  :y
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Re: Opel Spy Shots
« Reply #6 on: 26 August 2015, 12:48:00 »

As above, also bearing in mind the size of GM's global brands, it has to accommodate, Chevy,Holden,opel,vauxhall, and other,car manufacturer's who they can sell the platform to.
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Re: Opel Spy Shots
« Reply #7 on: 26 August 2015, 14:51:46 »

IT'll find out for you, as I know the driver, he drinks in my local Pub, thought I recognised the face, well, at least after 10 pints anyway.  :y
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Re: Opel Spy Shots
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Re: Opel Spy Shots
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Re: Opel Spy Shots
« Reply #10 on: 26 August 2015, 16:21:25 »

Has that got an 'adaptive front grille emblem'? It's looking sideways  ;D
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Re: Opel Spy Shots
« Reply #11 on: 26 August 2015, 18:32:56 »

I actually like that one  :y
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Re: Opel Spy Shots
« Reply #12 on: 26 August 2015, 19:48:53 »

I see no reason why the new Insignia shouldn't be bigger than the current offering.The latest Mondeo is bigger than the preceding version and it too has "gained" a slopier[?]rear roof line.All new models seem to be bigger than the one they're replacing.
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Re: Opel Spy Shots
« Reply #13 on: 26 August 2015, 20:46:28 »

They had to increase the (internal) space of the insignia, as the Astra was getting very close to it.
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Re: Opel Spy Shots
« Reply #14 on: 26 August 2015, 21:00:26 »

Yes it looks like the new Insignia will be larger than the last one.

Remember GM in the U.S. sells a number of cars through the Buick brand that are almost identical to Vauxhalls.  The equivalent of the Insignia is the Buick Regal, also on the SWB version of the Epsilon II platform

Buick Regal


There is also a larger model based on the LWB Epsilon II, which is the Buick LaCrosse.  Obviously there is no Vauxhall equivalent, though if there were it would effectively be a new 'Omega'.  In the Buick range the LaCrosse is to the Regal what the Omega was to the Vectra.

Buick LaCrosse


The current LaCrosse will be replaced in a year or two and there has been some (probably idle) chatter that a Vauxhall/Opel version could be on the cards... Unlikely perhaps, but then there really would be an Omega-sized big Vauxhall again.

Finally, Buick produced a concept car this year called the Avenir.  In my opinion a true beauty.  Imagine this in the UK with the Griffin badge...  ;) Unlikely to go into production, but it's style may influence the next Lacrosse and to an extent Regal, which may also have a knock on effect to how Vauxhalls look down the line.

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