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[ronnyd]

..so the head of the inquiry resigns. No real suprises there. Sorry, no link.

[Doctor Gollum]

..so the head of the inquiry resigns. No real suprises there. Sorry, no link.

Paid up lefty snowflake. A good kick up the arse is sometimes required to get the job done.

[STEMO]

..so the head of the inquiry resigns. No real suprises there. Sorry, no link.

Paid up lefty snowflake. A good kick up the arse is sometimes required to get the job done.

Yes, but no one actually told her she was a bully so how was she to know? 

[Doctor Gollum]

Robust leadership is not bullying. Doing what your paid for isn't a definition of being bullied 

[STEMO]

I'm bullied by that worzel Opti all the time, I just put up with it 

[Rangie]

Any advice is referred to as bullying by some , seen it so often when I was working & been accused of it , so when the individual concerned got a smack on the nose from a prisoner I took delight in telling them " I told you that would happen" he tended to listen to experienced staff after that incident.

[STEMO]

Any advice is referred to as bullying by some , seen it so often when I was working & been accused of it , so when the individual concerned got a smack on the nose from a prisoner I took delight in telling them " I told you that would happen" he tended to listen to experienced staff after that incident.

When the wife observes a lesson or has someone in the office, she always has to have a witness....taking notes. Stops all the 'He said, she said'. It's the way of things nowadays, I'm afraid.

[Rangie]

Any advice is referred to as bullying by some , seen it so often when I was working & been accused of it , so when the individual concerned got a smack on the nose from a prisoner I took delight in telling them " I told you that would happen" he tended to listen to experienced staff after that incident.

When the wife observes a lesson or has someone in the office, she always has to have a witness....taking notes. Stops all the 'He said, she said'. It's the way of things nowadays, I'm afraid.

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That's why I turned promotion down when I was offered it Steve, couldn't be doing with all the nonsense that went along with it & for the extra few quid a month simply not worth the hassle.

[TheBoy]

Your average 'flake bursts into tears if you have a verbal bawl at them. Lets face it, they have never done wrong or been told off due to trendy modern parenting, leaving reality to sink in once they start work in the real world.

[Sir Tigger KC]

The Home Office has been in a complete mess for years and needs a strong hand to try and sort it out. 

I've no doubt that Priti Patel can be blunt and forthright and I've also no doubt that the Civil Servants have been quietly trying to obstruct things like the new immigration system, so something had to give.

It did quite publicly when that snivelling little shit Philip Rutnam went public, obviously in an attempt to bring her down. There will be a media/twitter hoo haa for a bit, which I hope she survives. 

[Doctor Gollum]

"You can't say that!" is generally met with "And you can't do your job, so there's that..."

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

Three possible reasons why Boris has decided to 'stick with prit'

1....She is as pure as the driven snow and wouldn't say boo to a goose.

2....Ms Patel is a 'person of colour' and Boris did not want to incite BLM to riot by using his white privilege.

3....Boris is a randy old goat and has been bending Priti over the cabinet table and slipping her a length for months. 

[STEMO]

Three possible reasons why Boris has decided to 'stick with prit'

1....She is as pure as the driven snow and wouldn't say boo to a goose.

2....Ms Patel is a 'person of colour' and Boris did not want to incite BLM to riot by using his white privilege.

3....Boris is a randy old goat and has been bending Priti over the cabinet table and slipping her a length for months. 

I think we can discount 1 and 2.

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

Three possible reasons why Boris has decided to 'stick with prit'

1....She is as pure as the driven snow and wouldn't say boo to a goose.

2....Ms Patel is a 'person of colour' and Boris did not want to incite BLM to riot by using his white privilege.

3....Boris is a randy old goat and has been bending Priti over the cabinet table and slipping her a length for months. 

I think we can discount 1 and 2.

She is an attractive woman, so given the opportunity I think any man would.........

It's like John Major and Edwina all over again.  

[STEMO]

The real reason he didn't sack her is because the report was fake news.

[TheBoy]

Three possible reasons why Boris has decided to 'stick with prit'

1....She is as pure as the driven snow and wouldn't say boo to a goose.

2....Ms Patel is a 'person of colour' and Boris did not want to incite BLM to riot by using his white privilege.

3....Boris is a randy old goat and has been bending Priti over the cabinet table and slipping her a length for months. 

4) a woman


So 2) + 4) keeps the ratios up.



As for slipping her one, really?  I certainly wouldn't.

[STEMO]

Three possible reasons why Boris has decided to 'stick with prit'

1....She is as pure as the driven snow and wouldn't say boo to a goose.

2....Ms Patel is a 'person of colour' and Boris did not want to incite BLM to riot by using his white privilege.

3....Boris is a randy old goat and has been bending Priti over the cabinet table and slipping her a length for months. 

4) a woman


So 2) + 4) keeps the ratios up.



As for slipping her one, really?  I certainly wouldn't.

Opti would shag a snake, so he's not really in a position to comment 

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

Three possible reasons why Boris has decided to 'stick with prit'

1....She is as pure as the driven snow and wouldn't say boo to a goose.

2....Ms Patel is a 'person of colour' and Boris did not want to incite BLM to riot by using his white privilege.

3....Boris is a randy old goat and has been bending Priti over the cabinet table and slipping her a length for months. 

4) a woman


So 2) + 4) keeps the ratios up.



As for slipping her one, really?  I certainly wouldn't.

Opti would shag a snake, so he's not really in a position to comment 

Well, I find her attractive, in common with Heidi Allen, who I think is no longer a Tory.

TB only has eyes for Shami C.

[STEMO]

Three possible reasons why Boris has decided to 'stick with prit'

1....She is as pure as the driven snow and wouldn't say boo to a goose.

2....Ms Patel is a 'person of colour' and Boris did not want to incite BLM to riot by using his white privilege.

3....Boris is a randy old goat and has been bending Priti over the cabinet table and slipping her a length for months. 

4) a woman


So 2) + 4) keeps the ratios up.



As for slipping her one, really?  I certainly wouldn't.

Opti would shag a snake, so he's not really in a position to comment 

Well, I find her attractive, in common with Heidi Allen, who I think is no longer a Tory.

TB only has eyes for Shami C.

You've mentioned her name, he'll be off now bashing the bishop 

[Doctor Gollum]

The real reason he didn't sack her is because the report was fake news.

That will never sell papers

It's not 'fake' news, just completely biased omitted news

[ronnyd]

Any advice is referred to as bullying by some , seen it so often when I was working & been accused of it , so when the individual concerned got a smack on the nose from a prisoner I took delight in telling them " I told you that would happen" he tended to listen to experienced staff after that incident.

When the wife observes a lesson or has someone in the office, she always has to have a witness....taking notes. Stops all the 'He said, she said'. It's the way of things nowadays, I'm afraid.

. 


That's why I turned promotion down when I was offered it Steve, couldn't be doing with all the nonsense that went along with it & for the extra few quid a month simply not worth the hassle.

I was a m/c shop supervisor for a number of years. The company then decided that individual assessments were required. I did all the people on my shop floor, 30+, My gaffer then gave me mine. Bearing in mind that this guy used to work under me, he said " i notice that you don't suffer fools gladly". My reply was " if i think that they're shit at their job i'll tell them. Didn't go down too well.

[Lizzie Zoom]

Any advice is referred to as bullying by some , seen it so often when I was working & been accused of it , so when the individual concerned got a smack on the nose from a prisoner I took delight in telling them " I told you that would happen" he tended to listen to experienced staff after that incident.

When the wife observes a lesson or has someone in the office, she always has to have a witness....taking notes. Stops all the 'He said, she said'. It's the way of things nowadays, I'm afraid.

. 


That's why I turned promotion down when I was offered it Steve, couldn't be doing with all the nonsense that went along with it & for the extra few quid a month simply not worth the hassle.

I was a m/c shop supervisor for a number of years. The company then decided that individual assessments were required. I did all the people on my shop floor, 30+, My gaffer then gave me mine. Bearing in mind that this guy used to work under me, he said " i notice that you don't suffer fools gladly". My reply was " if i think that they're shit at their job i'll tell them. Didn't go down too well.

In my later business life I had to give all my field managers their individual 360 degree assessments, then they gave me their individual assessments. That was interesting, but a very healthy way of management.

Now, I wonder if 360 degree appraisals are given to the political managers of our country, let alone with the civil servants?

[Migv6 le Frog Fan]

When Patel took over at the Home office she said she was going to do all kinds of things. She has carried out few, if any of those things.
I suspect the reason for that is that the Oxbridge lefty liberal wokies who infest the Civil service in their millions, ignored her, closed ranks and refused to implement what she wanted to do.
If thats the case, she should be applauded for screaming "fickin useless wonkers" at them in frustration.
Thatcher always said she regretted that she didnt get around to doing to the Civil Service what she did to the private sector.
God only knows when we will ever get a Government with the balls to take that job on. 

[STEMO]

When Patel took over at the Home office she said she was going to do all kinds of things. She has carried out few, if any of those things.
I suspect the reason for that is that the Oxbridge lefty liberal wokies who infest the Civil service in their millions, ignored her, closed ranks and refused to implement what she wanted to do.
If thats the case, she should be applauded for screaming "fickin useless wonkers" at them in frustration.
Thatcher always said she regretted that she didnt get around to doing to the Civil Service what she did to the private sector.
God only knows when we will ever get a Government with the balls to take that job on. 

Drain the swamp!

[Nick W]

I was a m/c shop supervisor for a number of years. The company then decided that individual assessments were required. I did all the people on my shop floor, 30+, My gaffer then gave me mine. Bearing in mind that this guy used to work under me, he said " i notice that you don't suffer fools gladly". My reply was " if i think that they're shit at their job I'll tell them. Didn't go down too well.

My old boss was terrible at doing his admin, so came rushing one morning in a panic with our staff appraisals. Which were nearly a month late.
My immediate manager(the bullshit bingo bloke ) turned to the last page, scribbled a signature and handed it back without saying a word. 
As I didn't have 20 years of longterm scams behind me, I couldn't afford a bad appraisal because the company always used them against you. Also, I can't help reading any bit of paper handed to me. So I gave it back without signing and made him actually do the job. Then correct the execrable English before I was prepared to sign it.




What is a 360 degree appraisal that isn't covered by 'appraisal', or should I just call BINGO now?

[Migv6 le Frog Fan]

When Patel took over at the Home office she said she was going to do all kinds of things. She has carried out few, if any of those things.
I suspect the reason for that is that the Oxbridge lefty liberal wokies who infest the Civil service in their millions, ignored her, closed ranks and refused to implement what she wanted to do.
If thats the case, she should be applauded for screaming "fickin useless wonkers" at them in frustration.
Thatcher always said she regretted that she didnt get around to doing to the Civil Service what she did to the private sector.
God only knows when we will ever get a Government with the balls to take that job on. 

Drain the swamp!

Zackly. 

[Doctor Gollum]

Copyright that and rent it to Nigel

[Sir Tigger KC]

Opti would shag a snake, so he's not really in a position to comment 

I believe the complete saying is He'd shag a dead snake with an infested arsehole!  

[STEMO]

Opti would shag a snake, so he's not really in a position to comment 

I believe the complete saying is He'd shag a dead snake with an infested arsehole!  

Ermmm......yuk 🤢

[TheBoy]

In my later business life I had to give all my field managers their individual 360 degree assessments, then they gave me their individual assessments. That was interesting, but a very healthy way of management.

Now, I wonder if 360 degree appraisals are given to the political managers of our country, let alone with the civil servants?

I think that idea was dropped from most places decades ago, as it turned out that constructive, open and honest upward feedback ws not what British managers wanted, just knob jockeys.

No need to ask how I know...

[Doctor Gollum]

It's funny how 'constructive' feedback only goes one way...

Sending it uphill never ends well

[Lizzie Zoom]

I was a m/c shop supervisor for a number of years. The company then decided that individual assessments were required. I did all the people on my shop floor, 30+, My gaffer then gave me mine. Bearing in mind that this guy used to work under me, he said " i notice that you don't suffer fools gladly". My reply was " if i think that they're shit at their job I'll tell them. Didn't go down too well.

My old boss was terrible at doing his admin, so came rushing one morning in a panic with our staff appraisals. Which were nearly a month late.
My immediate manager(the bullshit bingo bloke ) turned to the last page, scribbled a signature and handed it back without saying a word. 
As I didn't have 20 years of longterm scams behind me, I couldn't afford a bad appraisal because the company always used them against you. Also, I can't help reading any bit of paper handed to me. So I gave it back without signing and made him actually do the job. Then correct the execrable English before I was prepared to sign it.




What is a 360 degree appraisal that isn't covered by 'appraisal', or should I just call BINGO now?

It was when you fully appraised the individual then after that they gave an appraisal on yourself as their boss to give them a chance to officially explain any "weaknesses" or strengths they believed there to be.  It was meant to be, and often was a very positive way of cementing a Team together so everyone understood what improvements could be made in the style and application of management looking at it from all angles, hence 360 degrees. My field managers then went through the same process with the managers under their command.  I certainly found it a very positive management tool, and gave me a chance to challenge certain directors when I had my appraisal with them!

Only weak, poor managers, who shouldn't have been in the business would fear it.

[Nick W]

Oh.
Oh dear.


BINGO!

[biggriffin]

I was a m/c shop supervisor for a number of years. The company then decided that individual assessments were required. I did all the people on my shop floor, 30+, My gaffer then gave me mine. Bearing in mind that this guy used to work under me, he said " i notice that you don't suffer fools gladly". My reply was " if i think that they're shit at their job I'll tell them. Didn't go down too well.

My old boss was terrible at doing his admin, so came rushing one morning in a panic with our staff appraisals. Which were nearly a month late.
My immediate manager(the bullshit bingo bloke ) turned to the last page, scribbled a signature and handed it back without saying a word. 
As I didn't have 20 years of longterm scams behind me, I couldn't afford a bad appraisal because the company always used them against you. Also, I can't help reading any bit of paper handed to me. So I gave it back without signing and made him actually do the job. Then correct the execrable English before I was prepared to sign it.




What is a 360 degree appraisal that isn't covered by 'appraisal', or should I just call BINGO now?

It was when you fully appraised the individual then after that they gave an appraisal on yourself as their boss to give them a chance to officially explain any "weaknesses" or strengths they believed there to be.  It was meant to be, and often was a very positive way of cementing a Team together so everyone understood what improvements could be made in the style and application of management looking at it from all angles, hence 360 degrees. My field managers then went through the same process with the managers under their command.  I certainly found it a very positive management tool, and gave me a chance to challenge certain directors when I had my appraisal with them!

Only weak, poor managers, who shouldn't have been in the business would fear it.

  Blue pallet,management thinking blocks,making one manger think he is better than another, O and do t forgot stupid safety and bulletin messages everywhere....  Thank fook I work in an old type family owned dictatorship company, were shoutyness innuendo and real world is the normal. Yes dinosaurs still live.

[Lizzie Zoom]

Oh.
Oh dear.


BINGO!

    When you are a senior manager within a multi-billion pound international business I can assure you it is very far from bingo if that is what you want to call it.  It is a case of maintaining, increasing and protecting the profit margins or you are out, so through your field managers you make sure that does not happen! It is no game and is 24/7 responsibility to give the business and your command all that it requires.

[STEMO]

Oh.
Oh dear.


BINGO!

    When you are a senior manager within a multi-billion pound international business I can assure you it is very far from bingo if that is what you want to call it.  It is a case of maintaining, increasing and protecting the profit margins or you are out, so through your field managers you make sure that does not happen! It is no game and is 24/7 responsibility to give the business and your command all that it requires.

Retail, wasn't it? Looks like you all failed.

[Doctor Gollum]

Ouch

[Lizzie Zoom]

Oh.
Oh dear.


BINGO!

    When you are a senior manager within a multi-billion pound international business I can assure you it is very far from bingo if that is what you want to call it.  It is a case of maintaining, increasing and protecting the profit margins or you are out, so through your field managers you make sure that does not happen! It is no game and is 24/7 responsibility to give the business and your command all that it requires.

Retail, wasn't it? Looks like you all failed.

No, cause I was in it at the best time and even predicted to my bosses in 1986 the time to come of electronic virtual reality stores, but they were having none of it.  So I worked on until picking up a very healthy pension and thank God I did!

I wouldn't want that career again in 2020

[Nick W]

Oh.
Oh dear.


BINGO!

    When you are a senior manager within a multi-billion pound international business I can assure you it is very far from bingo if that is what you want to call it.  It is a case of maintaining, increasing and protecting the profit margins or you are out, so through your field managers you make sure that does not happen! It is no game and is 24/7 responsibility to give the business and your command all that it requires.

I'm sure every one of us has had a manager(the most overused word in business) return from a course/meeting/bollocking/inspection/assessment with a new vocabulary designed to make us think that something good is going to happen while everything carries on as normal. You can easily test how susceptible your managers are to this by inventing your own drivel, slipping it into conversation with head office and seeing how long it takes to come back to you through a different path. We guaranteed less than a week, but our record was the following afternoon!


While I accept that jargon, at least within its strict definition, is unavoidable the idea that you're stupid enough to be blinded by some tortuous phrasing is oppsing insulting. The same applies to job title changes every couple of years; going from Supervisor to Acting-Deputy-Assistant-Under-Manager isn't a promotion and unlike a payrise, won't pay for the plumber to fit a new boiler.


The best managers I've worked for have never fallen into this trap. At my first job, somebody had given the boss a sign for his door that read The person in this office has no skills(which would now be skillset ), tact or experience. That's why he's in here, and you're out there with the customers. It soon became clear that although he took it as a joke, it was true.

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

I can't work for people. We clash because I always think I know better. As a spotty 17 year old I remember trying to 'enlighten' the managing director ( age about 50) of the printing company I worked for, as to the best way forward for his company.

He sacked me. .......hated the job anyway.