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[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

I believe in socialism to the extent of fair play and equality of opportunity.....not outcome

Sadly though the Labour party has moved ever further to the left making it irrelevant. It no longer has any interest in the 'working classes' after they voted for Brexit.

Considering that unions are far less powerful than they used to be, Corbyn didn't last long, and that even the so-called communist countries are declining you could argue that the Labour party has moved further to the centre. Look at recent leaders for an example: Blair or Starmer would make respectable centrist Tories.

I agree, but that's another reason why they'll find it difficult to get elected. Too far left and they're communists, nearer the centre and they're 'soft' tories.

Yes....Blair was essentially a Tory which is probably why he won 3 elections. 

[Migv6 le Frog Fan]

Unions are much more powerful than ever in the public sector (which is a huge problem) but are all but dead in the private sector.
I dont think China is on the decline unfortunately.
Blair and Starmer would be able to fit into any party they chose, because they dont believe in anything. They are highly trained lawyers, so are able to advocate opposing viewpoints with equal apparent conviction and sincerity, just like they would in a courtroom depending on whether they are defending or prosecuting.
Thats why Politics is stuffed full of lawyers nowadays and there is a dire lack of conviction Politicians.

Strangely, the reason Corbyn got hammered was Brexit. If he had been the man of Conviction and principle his image portrayed him to be. he would have been fully on board with Brexit.
He hated the EU / EEC/ Common market his whole life. But he sat on the fence, talked out of both sides of his mouth at the same time, and was exposed as the chancer he really is and lost the North of England in the process.
Then had to stand down.

[Raeturbo]

Yep like I said two genders, anyone teaching otherwise is brainwashing.

             

You are conflating sex and gender. They mean very different things.

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                  Not to kids of the age we are discussing

That would require they each live in solitary confinement and have never seen another body. Of either sex. Or species for that matter.

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                  No, not in the context you’ve replied in. I had a mother and father, I knew who was what.

[Nick W]

Yep like I said two genders, anyone teaching otherwise is brainwashing.

             

You are conflating sex and gender. They mean very different things.

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                  Not to kids of the age we are discussing

That would require they each live in solitary confinement and have never seen another body. Of either sex. Or species for that matter.

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                  No, not in the context you’ve replied in. I had a mother and father, I knew who was what.

Which is exactly my point


What makes you think modern children are so stupid not to see the same?

[Doctor Gollum]

Stop the bus!

Did someone just use 'Tony Blair' and 'respectable' in the same sentence? 

[Raeturbo]

Yep like I said two genders, anyone teaching otherwise is brainwashing.

             

You are conflating sex and gender. They mean very different things.

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                  Not to kids of the age we are discussing

That would require they each live in solitary confinement and have never seen another body. Of either sex. Or species for that matter.

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                  No, not in the context you’ve replied in. I had a mother and father, I knew who was what.

Which is exactly my point


What makes you think modern children are so stupid not to see the same?

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                    Not stupid but easier to influence maybe, I can’t see the point in wasting school time peddling that crap, they have enough on their plate getting Religion rammed down their throats, if they want to know about it let them learn themselves when they are at an age to formulate an understanding for themselves. With all the additions to what’s taught in school lately teachers will not have enough time to teach them the basic three Rs.

[STEMO]

Yep like I said two genders, anyone teaching otherwise is brainwashing.

             

You are conflating sex and gender. They mean very different things.

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                  Not to kids of the age we are discussing

That would require they each live in solitary confinement and have never seen another body. Of either sex. Or species for that matter.

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                  No, not in the context you’ve replied in. I had a mother and father, I knew who was what.

Which is exactly my point


What makes you think modern children are so stupid not to see the same?

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                    Not stupid but easier to influence maybe, I can’t see the point in wasting school time peddling that crap, they have enough on their plate getting Religion rammed down their throats, if they want to know about it let them learn themselves when they are at an age to formulate an understanding for themselves. With all the additions to what’s taught in school lately teachers will not have enough time to teach them the basic three Rs.

Don't forget teachers have to have policies in place to recognise and report, Female genital mutilation, drug dealing, radicalisation, domestic violence, child sexual exploitation, forced marriage, unexplained absence and any other misfortune that may occur. It's not the job people remember and it's not for the easily upset.

[dave the builder]

Don't forget teachers have to have policies in place to recognise and report, Female genital mutilation, drug dealing, radicalisation, domestic violence, child sexual exploitation, forced marriage, unexplained absence and any other misfortune that may occur. It's not the job people remember and it's not for the easily upset.

Yep, not a job I'd fancy doing
when you do it well, no one notices 

But I agree with Rae , teach Kids the basics , the weird stuff and disappointment LIFE will teach them in time

[Raeturbo]

I’m a firm believer of live and let live, don’t get me wrong, but, let’s have a bit of good old fashioned common sense, as stemo says teachers are getting far to many jobs added on to an already busy job.

[Broomies Mate]

The ONLY reason teachers have all this on their plate is because society has become a wet-fart.

Since when did White not be White and Black not be Black?  Do you have a penis?  If so, you are Male.  Do you have a Vagina? If so you are Female.

Sorry, but this boils my piss.

Let's say an average Primary school has 200 Students.  If just one of those little kids decides (or more likely the parent decides) that the kid identifies as a oppsing toaster, the other 199 have to be taught why.

Bolicks.

[dave the builder]

Plus , how many sets of toilets will be required 
most places have a male toilet and a female toilet 

[Raeturbo]

Plus , how many sets of toilets will be required 
most places have a male toilet and a female toilet 

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                   🤭😂😂

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

Don't forget teachers have to have policies in place to recognise and report, Female genital mutilation, drug dealing, radicalisation, domestic violence, child sexual exploitation, forced marriage, unexplained absence and any other misfortune that may occur. It's not the job people remember and it's not for the easily upset.

Yep, not a job I'd fancy doing
when you do it well, no one notices 

But I agree with Rae , teach Kids the basics , the weird stuff and disappointment LIFE will teach them in time

Agreed...... 8 and 9 year old kids don't want or need the politics of white male London elites, with a womb.

Can you imagine Erdogan in Turkey or Putin allowing this shit.

[Sir Tigger KC]

Stop the bus!

Did someone just use 'Tony Blair' and 'respectable' in the same sentence? 

Is it me? Or does there seem to be some sort of effort to rehabilitate that Tuesday Blair recently? 

Even Farage was praising him the other day, saying that he was talking sense about vaccination and even suggested that he be put in charge of the vaccine programme!   

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

I mentioned Blair......but not respectable.

He started off all this woke shit with all women shortlists.