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Leak somewhere and carpet removal
« on: 18 November 2019, 10:27:14 »

Hi guys, my omega has developed a leak somewhere, there's a pool of water behind the driver's seat and the driver's  footwell is also wet. Scuttle is clean - I poured two gallons of water down the front window and it all came down along the chasis leg where the drain is. Pollen filter is dry, car has no sunroof.
How big of a job is it to remove the carpet?
It will need to dry until spring considering the amount of water in it... :'(
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Re: Leak somewhere and carpet removal
« Reply #1 on: 18 November 2019, 11:09:39 »

Remove the kick panel, slacken the seat bolts and hoik it out. Rear requires the seat base to also be pulled, along with the front seat track caps from the rear foot well, but otherwise lifts out.

Pulling the front seat gives much easier access but don't forget to disconnect the battery about half an hour before...  ;)

Also you will need to remove the underlay/insulation as that holds a good gallon or so and won't dry out if you leave it.
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Re: Leak somewhere and carpet removal
« Reply #2 on: 18 November 2019, 11:27:13 »

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Also you will need to remove the underlay/insulation as that holds a good gallon or so and won't dry out if you leave it.

Carpets in cars hold a phenomenal amount of water before the surface appears wet. Just been through this with SWMBOs car .... scuttle blocked,  water entered car via fan & soaking a resistor hedgehog .... sound familiar? Spent ages when the weather was nice trying to dry it out with the carpet lifted as much as I could  and a dehumidifier. It seemed fairly dry but i notice now that the inside of the screen is misty ..... but she's not said anything  ::)
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Re: Leak somewhere and carpet removal
« Reply #3 on: 18 November 2019, 11:31:58 »

Thank you both for quick responses  :y I've already started the job and found a centre console removal guide. It's first day without rain today :o I need to be fast
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Re: Leak somewhere and carpet removal
« Reply #4 on: 18 November 2019, 11:35:27 »

You don't need to remove the centre console  :y

Undo the bolt either side at the back of it makes it a bit easier to pull the rear carpet, but isn't strictly necessary  :y
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Re: Leak somewhere and carpet removal
« Reply #5 on: 18 November 2019, 12:01:09 »

Rear carpet done...there' s at least a gallon of water in rear footwell :o How do you remove footrest plastic/ or kick panel...? Can't pull front carpet out
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Re: Leak somewhere and carpet removal
« Reply #6 on: 18 November 2019, 12:59:27 »

It seems to me that the pre-facelift cars are less prone to scuttle blocking than the post facelifts. The nearside rubber drain is in a different place and points downwards.

Did you have very heavy rain recently? Might be that yours is/was partially blocked and the sheer volume of rain water overwhelmed the drains remaining capacity? We've had rain like that several times this year.

I'd have another look in the nearside scuttle with a good bright LED torch. Remove the cabin air pollen filter first. I find a long heavy cable-tie is a good tool to clear out the drain.
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Re: Leak somewhere and carpet removal
« Reply #7 on: 18 November 2019, 13:06:49 »

Raining hasn't stopped for two weeks in a row...today is the first sunny day.
Well carpets are out now, driver's side underlay had to be torn in 3 pieces sadly...full of water. Passenger side fotwell is bone dry surprisingly   ??? And that' s where the ait intake is :-\ :-\
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Re: Leak somewhere and carpet removal
« Reply #8 on: 18 November 2019, 13:33:15 »

Rear carpet done...there' s at least a gallon of water in rear footwell :o How do you remove footrest plastic/ or kick panel...? Can't pull front carpet out
Pop off the Opel covers from both of the door openings, and undo all the screws... Second screw at base of B post, also B post lower panel simply pops off (watch the location against the door seal on refitting) and side cover of seat rail simply slides forward  :y

Front panel has a screw at the front of the sill panel plus another in the centre of the face of it. No need to touch bonnet release (if applicable). It then pulls forward and towards the bulkhead to release the locating pin.  :y

Less time to do than to type ::)
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Re: Leak somewhere and carpet removal
« Reply #9 on: 18 November 2019, 13:36:13 »

In Omega A, the I.E. module is located at the base of column A. I have seen leaks in friend's cars, during engine washing or after heavy rain, water entered the car down the I.E.'s wiring and flooded the carpets. Where is I.E. located in Omega B?
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« Reply #10 on: 18 November 2019, 13:39:30 »

I E module?
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Re: Leak somewhere and carpet removal
« Reply #11 on: 18 November 2019, 13:52:23 »

Done now, mopped the water until dry and left an electric heater inside - away from anything flammable. Will leave with on for a few hours than leave an electric dehumidifier over night. It won't save the problem but any new leak will be visible
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Re: Leak somewhere and carpet removal
« Reply #13 on: 18 November 2019, 14:10:20 »

My rear footwell is constantly creating itself a small lake, so watching this with interest. Have unblocked all the drains/scuttle so no idea where mine is getting in, so can't help you OP  :-[. Usually the driver's footwell only when scuttle blocked. My driver's footwell is fine, but rear passengers behind driver is sodden.
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Re: Leak somewhere and carpet removal
« Reply #14 on: 18 November 2019, 14:22:33 »

I'll report back when/if I find the cause of the leak. There could however be some diferrences between RHD and LHD aircon channels...I wouldn't know that
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