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[Nick W]

You need to vote for the Brexit party then, as scrapping HS2 was the first policy they decided on after the Euro elections. 

So let's make Britain Great again once we leave the EU, but then let's cancel a great British engineering project that confirms we can still undertake such a project that the Victorians used to eat for breakfast!

Little Britain here we come!

It's a big engineering project, but it certainly isn't great. Scandalous waste of money is a fair description. Expensive solution to a problem nobody has is another.

[Migv6 le Frog Fan]

The Chairman of HS2 has apparently written to the D.O.T. warning them that the £55.7 billion budget wont be enough and is likely to rise to between £70 - £85 billion !
That's a "great engineering project" I think we cant afford and can do without. Particularly bearing mind the figures TB has already mentioned regarding costs and subsidies. 
I have always thought that it will carry quite a few commuters and business people from Brum to Londinium, but almost none going the other way. 

[TheBoy]

You need to vote for the Brexit party then, as scrapping HS2 was the first policy they decided on after the Euro elections. 

So let's make Britain Great again once we leave the EU, but then let's cancel a great British engineering project that confirms we can still undertake such a project that the Victorians used to eat for breakfast!  

Little Britain here we come!

You are massively over estimating the competence of the people running the project, and what a monumental flop it will be - no way on gods sweet earth will it get 5% of the required travellers to break even*

They want to design their own rails, boggies and trains, rather than buy proven, faster equipment, purely because its all about make jobs/money for themselves for a long time.  It will be an embarrassment.


*break even being able to get 40% of the running costs from those using it.

[Raeturbo]

Look it’s simple... jobs for ‘the boys’.. grease here, grease there, for the time it saves it’s ludicrous and who wants to go there in the first place?

[Doctor Gollum]

Look it’s simple... jobs for ‘the boys’.. grease here, grease there, for the time it saves it’s ludicrous and who wants to go there in the first place?

Lundun or Brum/Mancchester 

[Raeturbo]

Any of them😂👀

[Sir Tigger KC]

Look it’s simple... jobs for ‘the boys’.. grease here, grease there, for the time it saves it’s ludicrous and who wants to go there in the first place?

I think they are talking 15 -20 minutes quicker? 

[Raeturbo]

Not bad for over 70 billion

[Raeturbo]

Or is it 86 billion now??

[STEMO]

I remember when time spent on the intercity was a pleasant experience. No rush to get where you're going, just leave in plenty of time.
Different nowadays, I guess.

[scimmy_man]

if its a new line why not build a maglev like japan and do 200mph plus?

[Nick W]

if its a new line why not build a maglev like japan and do 200mph plus?

Considering how badly they've oppsed up technology we invented 200 years ago, can you imagine what they could do to maglevs?

[Varche]

All quite sad. There was a day when we did stunning projects.

Mind you the underground extension in London is impressive but not very visible.

My suggestions would be to make the Wash into a giant freshwater lake to supply the demand of the South East. The other would be to quadruple the size of Gods own country by extending the land out to the dogger bank. We need to be creating more land on an epic scale.
A road and rail bridge across to Ireland from Scotland near Stranraer would be good too.

[Doctor Gollum]

All quite sad. There was a day when we did stunning projects.

Mind you the underground extension in London is impressive but not very visible.

My suggestions would be to make the Wash into a giant freshwater lake to supply the demand of the South East. The other would be to quadruple the size of Gods own country by extending the land out to the dogger bank. We need to be creating more land on an epic scale.
A road and rail bridge across to Ireland from Scotland near Stranraer would be good too.

With drive through border post

[TheBoy]

Look it’s simple... jobs for ‘the boys’.. grease here, grease there, for the time it saves it’s ludicrous and who wants to go there in the first place?

I think they are talking 15 -20 minutes quicker? 

Network Rail have been trying to slow the existing lines in order to make HS2 look more viable.