Omega Owners Forum

Please login or register.

Login with username, password and session length
Advanced search  

News:

Please play nicely.  No one wants to listen/read a keyboard warriors rants....

Pages: 1 2 [All]   Go Down

Author Topic: tyre safe to use if  (Read 3137 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

vauxsull

  • Omega Knight
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Gender: Male
  • Garden City, North Wales
  • Posts: 1165
    • 3.0 Elite
    • View Profile
tyre safe to use if
« on: 02 February 2016, 16:58:07 »

Its 16 years old but never been used?
Logged

b4ndit

  • Omega Knight
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Gender: Male
  • chester
  • Posts: 1827
  • Retired
    • VW Phaeton
    • View Profile
Re: tyre safe to use if
« Reply #1 on: 02 February 2016, 17:04:23 »

I would say no as the rubber will have degraded somewhat. I defo would not use it on the road but your choice :y
Logged

Bigron

  • Omega Baron
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Gender: Male
  • Witham, Essex
  • Posts: 4808
    • Omega 2.6 V6 Auto '51 Reg
    • View Profile
Re: tyre safe to use if
« Reply #2 on: 02 February 2016, 17:07:12 »

If it has had daylight (ultraviolet light) on it for any significant length of time - bin it!

Ron.
Logged

vauxsull

  • Omega Knight
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Gender: Male
  • Garden City, North Wales
  • Posts: 1165
    • 3.0 Elite
    • View Profile
Re: tyre safe to use if
« Reply #3 on: 02 February 2016, 17:08:01 »

Dont think its ever seen daylight... i was just checking as its a damn good tyre... i shall just keep it as the spare then..
Logged

Field Marshal Dr. Opti

  • Get A Life!!
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Gender: Male
  • Utopia
  • Posts: 31616
  • Speaking sense, not Woke PC crap
    • View Profile
Re: tyre safe to use if
« Reply #4 on: 02 February 2016, 17:10:24 »

Speaking of shagged tyres.......our Corsa still wears it's 2003 original P6000's on the rear.
Logged

Paddy Flannery

  • Intermediate Member
  • ***
  • Offline Offline
  • Gender: Male
  • Hertford, Hertfordshire
  • Posts: 435
    • 2003 2.6 V6
    • View Profile
Re: tyre safe to use if
« Reply #5 on: 02 February 2016, 19:09:58 »

Rubber will have degraded over time and therefore it's grip capabilities will be reduced leading to potential loss of traction and/or increased stopping distance.

Matter for yourself, but is it worth it for the sake of buying one tyre ?
Logged

Andy B

  • Get A Life!!
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Gender: Male
  • Bury Lancs
  • Posts: 39480
    • ML350 TDM SmartRoadster
    • View Profile
Re: tyre safe to use if
« Reply #6 on: 02 February 2016, 19:15:14 »

There'll be loads of Omegas around still with the original spare in the boot  ;) As a spare they'll have rarely seen the light of day .... I'd use it as a spare
Logged

terry paget

  • Omega Baron
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Gender: Male
  • Midsomer Norton Somerset
  • Posts: 4633
    • 3 Astras 2 Vectra
    • View Profile
Re: tyre safe to use if
« Reply #7 on: 02 February 2016, 20:54:58 »

Most Omegas I buy have brand new spare tyres on steel wheels. They have not seen the light of day since new, and show no sign of cracking or deterioration. I reckon if age were a problem they would put year of manufacture on them. I use them on the front of my car, and never had cause to regret doing so.
Logged

TheBoy

  • Administrator
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Gender: Male
  • Brackley, Northants
  • Posts: 105921
  • I Like Lockdown
    • Whatever Starts
    • View Profile
Re: tyre safe to use if
« Reply #8 on: 02 February 2016, 22:05:23 »

Most Omegas I buy have brand new spare tyres on steel wheels. They have not seen the light of day since new, and show no sign of cracking or deterioration. I reckon if age were a problem they would put year of manufacture on them. I use them on the front of my car, and never had cause to regret doing so.
They do.
Logged
Grumpy old man

Keith ABS

  • Omega Baron
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Gender: Male
  • Maldon Essex
  • Posts: 2803
    • View Profile
Re: tyre safe to use if
« Reply #9 on: 03 February 2016, 07:35:17 »

My 81 Opel Senator stillhas origional spare on the alloy in the boot and has no signs of cracking or deteriation on it

Keith ABS
Logged

Diamond Black Geezer

  • Omega Lord
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Gender: Male
  • N E Lincolnshire & Warwickshire
  • Posts: 5694
  • Diamond Black '96 CDX V6 - 'Pissy'
    • & a silly coupe coming...
    • View Profile
Re: tyre safe to use if
« Reply #10 on: 03 February 2016, 09:45:34 »

If you find yourself unable to use the tyre due to public pressure, please feel free to tell me where the bin is in which you throw it...  :y

If its cracking - no good, if it's not - I'd say fine. As with any item to do with vehicles, periodic inspection will be beneficial.  :)
Logged
Ex-Dealer Kent-Moore Rear Wheel Bearing Tool available for hire, PM for details.

"There's no point in being grown up if you can't be childish sometimes." 4th Doctor

Mr Gav

  • Omega Knight
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Leeds
  • Posts: 1924
    • Nissan 370z GT Edition
    • View Profile
Re: tyre safe to use if
« Reply #11 on: 03 February 2016, 10:10:11 »

If you find yourself unable to use the tyre due to public pressure, please feel free to tell me where the bin is in which you throw it...  :y

If its cracking - no good, if it's not - I'd say fine. As with any item to do with vehicles, periodic inspection will be beneficial.  :)

A few years ago evo magazine ran a tyre test, all the tyres were new from the manufacturer and out of interest bought some identical tyres from a local garage for comparison. The tyres they bought were six months old and iirc had a 20 metre greater stopping distance than the ones fresh from the manufacturer. If that's how much grip they can lose after six months then I wonder how much difference a year it two makes, maybe another ten metres?

It's your money but there's no way I'd be putting old tyres on a car, it could be the difference between hitting another car out stopping in time in an emergency stop situation.
Logged

Diamond Black Geezer

  • Omega Lord
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Gender: Male
  • N E Lincolnshire & Warwickshire
  • Posts: 5694
  • Diamond Black '96 CDX V6 - 'Pissy'
    • & a silly coupe coming...
    • View Profile
Re: tyre safe to use if
« Reply #12 on: 03 February 2016, 10:33:49 »

It's a fair point, however this suggest that tyres should be thrown away and replaced (presumably less than) every 6 months for safety. But it's one of those 'you pay your money, you takes your choice' things.

With second hand rubber some will say 'it be fine' some will say 'never on my car' but I'm not calling anyone who is the latter is wrong.. just saying what I'd do, sort of thing.  :)
Logged
Ex-Dealer Kent-Moore Rear Wheel Bearing Tool available for hire, PM for details.

"There's no point in being grown up if you can't be childish sometimes." 4th Doctor

vauxsull

  • Omega Knight
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Gender: Male
  • Garden City, North Wales
  • Posts: 1165
    • 3.0 Elite
    • View Profile
Re: tyre safe to use if
« Reply #13 on: 03 February 2016, 10:53:25 »

Its purely because the tyre is a michelin primacy as opposed to a cheap budget tyre.. shame not to bae able to use it due to age even though its never seen daylight. Its a full size 17" tyre too fitted to an alloy.
Logged

Diamond Black Geezer

  • Omega Lord
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Gender: Male
  • N E Lincolnshire & Warwickshire
  • Posts: 5694
  • Diamond Black '96 CDX V6 - 'Pissy'
    • & a silly coupe coming...
    • View Profile
Re: tyre safe to use if
« Reply #14 on: 03 February 2016, 10:58:24 »

No good for me, then  :y :D But being a more-than decent tyre make, well you know my views  :) if actually terrified, then leave it just in the boot as a spare, which you'll (probably) never ever use. Done.  :)
Logged
Ex-Dealer Kent-Moore Rear Wheel Bearing Tool available for hire, PM for details.

"There's no point in being grown up if you can't be childish sometimes." 4th Doctor

Kevin Wood

  • Global Moderator
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Gender: Male
  • Alton, Hampshire
  • Posts: 36281
    • Jaguar XE 25t, Westfield
    • View Profile
Re: tyre safe to use if
« Reply #15 on: 03 February 2016, 11:26:28 »

Any tyre where the surface has been exposed to the air for some months / years will, at least temporarily, have reduced grip. I notice this when the kit car has had a lay-up. Take it easy until fresh rubber has started to be exposed and then all is fine.

As to the OP's question: I'd be inspecting the tyre carefully. Any signs of cracking and I wouldn't use it, but, if it's still in visually good condition, then I'd use it as a spare. You aren't going to be asking much of a spare, in the unlikely event that you have to use it, anyway.
Logged
Tech2 services currently available. See TheBoy's price list: http://theboy.omegaowners.com/

TheBoy

  • Administrator
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Gender: Male
  • Brackley, Northants
  • Posts: 105921
  • I Like Lockdown
    • Whatever Starts
    • View Profile
Re: tyre safe to use if
« Reply #16 on: 03 February 2016, 17:31:02 »

Its purely because the tyre is a michelin primacy as opposed to a cheap budget tyre.. shame not to bae able to use it due to age even though its never seen daylight. Its a full size 17" tyre too fitted to an alloy.
Sounds pretty shite to me....
Logged
Grumpy old man

TheBoy

  • Administrator
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Gender: Male
  • Brackley, Northants
  • Posts: 105921
  • I Like Lockdown
    • Whatever Starts
    • View Profile
Re: tyre safe to use if
« Reply #17 on: 03 February 2016, 17:35:13 »

As the tyre manufacturers (all of them) only warrant 5 yrs from production, and actively state they should be replaced after, you can be in a grey area insurancewise.

Now we all carry old spares, but hopefully we drive a little more cautiously (and less than 50mph for FL owners ;D) when in use, but for day to day usage on a tyre way over the 5yr mark, nah, bin it. Its the one thing in contact with the ground.
Logged
Grumpy old man

tidla

  • Omega Baron
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Gender: Male
  • solihull
  • Posts: 4097
    • View Profile
Re: tyre safe to use if
« Reply #18 on: 04 February 2016, 17:25:26 »

I should imagine sunlight and whether the tyre was loose or fitted and holding the weight of the vehicle would make a difference.
Logged

Andy B

  • Get A Life!!
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Gender: Male
  • Bury Lancs
  • Posts: 39480
    • ML350 TDM SmartRoadster
    • View Profile
Re: tyre safe to use if
« Reply #19 on: 04 February 2016, 17:31:56 »

.... and actively state they should be replaced after, you can be in a grey area insurancewise. ....

but, so far, there isn't a max age for a tyre.
Logged

Bigron

  • Omega Baron
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Gender: Male
  • Witham, Essex
  • Posts: 4808
    • Omega 2.6 V6 Auto '51 Reg
    • View Profile
Re: tyre safe to use if
« Reply #20 on: 04 February 2016, 20:41:01 »

Have you considered emailing the technicxal department of the tyre manufactuer?

Ron.
Logged

2boxerdogs

  • Guest
Re: tyre safe to use if
« Reply #21 on: 05 February 2016, 13:27:25 »

As the tyre manufacturers (all of them) only warrant 5 yrs from production, and actively state they should be replaced after, you can be in a grey area insurancewise.

Now we all carry old spares, but hopefully we drive a little more cautiously (and less than 50mph for FL owners ;D) when in use, but for day to day usage on a tyre way over the 5yr mark, nah, bin it. Its the one thing in contact with the ground.
.   



Totally agree bin it, not worth the risk for the sake of a few quid.What value do you put on your well-being ?
Logged

TheBoy

  • Administrator
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Gender: Male
  • Brackley, Northants
  • Posts: 105921
  • I Like Lockdown
    • Whatever Starts
    • View Profile
Re: tyre safe to use if
« Reply #22 on: 06 February 2016, 09:03:32 »

Have you considered emailing the technicxal department of the tyre manufactuer?

Ron.
I spoke to them (I think from memory, it was Michelin, but it was a while ago back when she had lease cars), and they will confirm that they will not warrant any tyre older than 5yrs from manufacture date, and thus say they highly recommend it is changed. But then they would say that. But at least with that info, the lease company was forced to replace the rears ;D

Tyres are a service item, and treat them as such. You wouldn't run an air filter for 5yrs, or coolant for 5yrs, or even oil for 5yrs.

Logged
Grumpy old man

vauxsull

  • Omega Knight
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Gender: Male
  • Garden City, North Wales
  • Posts: 1165
    • 3.0 Elite
    • View Profile
Re: tyre safe to use if
« Reply #23 on: 07 February 2016, 09:36:04 »

I shall just keep it as a spare.. :y
Logged
Pages: 1 2 [All]   Go Up
 

Page created in 0.029 seconds with 18 queries.