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[handy]

Hi guys,

Had really bad weather down my way a few days ago and ended up driving into a very deep puddle,   Just past the headlights on my vivaro van,   It ended up cutting out in the middle of this puddle and the only way i could get the van out was to put it into 1st gear and hold the ignition key in the start position which chugged it out,
After waiting about 10mins the van started but clouds and clouds of white smoke which lasted for about 30 mins until dying down to a little smoke,

I then drove the van home and you could feel it missing on one of the cylinders,  Ive been using it for daily work and when i first start it in the morning there is a lot of smoke and the missing, 

It went into the dealers today as its only a yr old and they told me that it was missing on cylinder 1 and they would need to strip the engine to find out why,   I aint told them that i drove it through a small lake    as it might affect the warranty and thought that all you clever people on here might tell me what the likely cause is of my problem.

Thanks

[Marks DTM Calib]

Guessing its diesel so may well have hydrauliced a pot!

Number 1 rule of diesel driving in deep water.....do it on tick-over!

They will spot it when they strip it down.

[handy]

Guessing its diesel so may well have hydrauliced a pot!

Number 1 rule of diesel driving in deep water.....do it on tick-over!

They will spot it when they strip it down.

So what work is involved, and what is hydrauliced ?? 

[Marks DTM Calib]

Due to the compression of a diesel engine, lack of a throttle butterfly and the fact that water can not be compressed, getting water in a bore can often either blow the headgasket out or bend a rod!

Neither are cheap (the latter is a new lump!)

[handy]

Due to the compression of a diesel engine, lack of a throttle butterfly and the fact that water can not be compressed, getting water in a bore can often either blow the headgasket out or bend a rod!

Neither are cheap (the latter is a new lump!)

Wouldnt it be loosing water or oil if the head gasket had gone??   Would the symptoms be the same for me if a rod had bent ?  Just read a little about it on the web and someone says that you could just remove the glow plug and fire the engine to see if it pushes any water out that could be in the bore,   Or is this a load of old bull ? :~)

[Ghost]

Might still be water in the electrics somewhere or water in the fuel. ie white smoke.

[handy]

But they said its missing on cylinder 1,   Looking like hydralock but hoping its not,   will the cranking over of the engine help without the glowplug or wont?

[Andy B]

But they said its missing on cylinder 1,   Looking like hydralock but hoping its not,   will the cranking over of the engine help without the glowplug or wont?

any water that you might have dragged in at the time will be gone through your exhaust valve(s) by now if you've been driving the van.

[handy]

So how will they know if id driven the van through water when they strip the engine,    Just hoping they dont find out as it could land me in the crapper

[Andy B]

So how will they know if id driven the van through water when they strip the engine, ....

Due to the compression of a diesel engine, lack of a throttle butterfly and the fact that water can not be compressed, getting water in a bore can often either blow the headgasket out or bend a rod!

Neither are cheap (the latter is a new lump!)

.....    Just hoping they dont find out as it could land me in the crapper

Fingers crossed   

[handy]

sorry to keep on but....  What else could cause this damage to the engine if it wasnt hydralock,  im sure they know the symptoms of hydralocked engine ,    Wont they ultimately find out?

[semisheen]

Due to the compression of a diesel engine, lack of a throttle butterfly and the fact that water can not be compressed, getting water in a bore can often either blow the headgasket out or bend a rod!

Neither are cheap (the latter is a new lump!)

99% if there is blue smoke on idle it WILL have bent a rod is it a hire van ?

[miggcddave]

same happend to my mate on a diesel and bent a rod that was missing on one pot . and smoke so he got rid of car 

[semisheen]

It will brobably be missing on pot 1 because the bent rod has lowerd the compression

[semisheen]

So how will they know if id driven the van through water when they strip the engine,    Just hoping they dont find out as it could land me in the crapper

“accidently”  driving through an unavoidable puddle because a lorry was oncoming on the other side of the road is a lot better way to bugger a van up than thrashing the gonads of it and blowing it up 

[Steve Brookman]

Hello all,

Mate drove through a ford many years ago in a  new Hilux-water was higher than expected-hilux cut out. They towed it out with a JCB and then tried to bump start it
whilst being towed. Result was a new engine which I think cost over £2000 15 years ago.

Steve

[handy]

Due to the compression of a diesel engine, lack of a throttle butterfly and the fact that water can not be compressed, getting water in a bore can often either blow the headgasket out or bend a rod!

Neither are cheap (the latter is a new lump!)

99% if there is blue smoke on idle it WILL have bent a rod is it a hire van ?

Yes hire van,   Does that make a difference?   

[semisheen]

Things like that hapen to hire vans ....thats all i was thinking