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rear wheel bearing ..... I think
« on: 25 July 2016, 13:50:50 »

OK, so had new trackrods and drop links done, all went well, but now there is a bearing going at the rear, its really PI***** me off now, so it has to be done. It will be a garage job, as there Is no way I am capable with my health, and thats not an option. can anyone supply a link to recommended new one, and if its a pattern part, its ok, as am sure the bits that the garage fitted last month were not genuine  parts, as its sas, andrew page and europarts they use. Also a "ball park" fitting figure for said work, did not want to pay daft money, as cars not worth it lol

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Re: rear wheel bearing ..... I think
« Reply #1 on: 25 July 2016, 14:16:32 »

OK, so had new trackrods and drop links done, all went well, but now there is a bearing going at the rear, its really PI***** me off now, so it has to be done. It will be a garage job, as there Is no way I am capable with my health, and thats not an option. can anyone supply a link to recommended new one, and if its a pattern part, its ok, as am sure the bits that the garage fitted last month were not genuine  parts, as its sas, andrew page and europarts they use. Also a "ball park" fitting figure for said work, did not want to pay daft money, as cars not worth it lol

Thanks in advance :y


Last time I looked, a decent branded(SKF I think) bearing was about £40 from Eurocarparts; my car has a cheaper one fitted.


This isn't a difficult job but many people, including garages, make it so. A bill for 2hours work would be reasonable, much more than that is taking the piss. Some easily improvised tooling makes the job much easier, which something traditional mechanics just handle, many modern technicians seem to struggle.
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Re: rear wheel bearing ..... I think
« Reply #2 on: 25 July 2016, 16:02:57 »

 :y  thanks Nick
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Re: rear wheel bearing ..... I think
« Reply #3 on: 25 July 2016, 17:33:29 »

When mine was done by a fellow OOFer down in Trowbridge it was 40 minutes from start to finish ... he did have some very "interesting" home made tools just for the job... :)  that 40 minutes did include 5-6 minutes making up a piece on a lathe that he couldn't find in his box .... very impressive. 'Tis a real shame he no longer frequents the forum, he was a major asset and a REALLY nice bloke as well.
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Re: rear wheel bearing ..... I think
« Reply #4 on: 25 July 2016, 17:36:35 »

When mine was done by a fellow OOFer down in Trowbridge it was 40 minutes from start to finish ... he did have some very "interesting" home made tools just for the job... :)  that 40 minutes did include 5-6 minutes making up a piece on a lathe that he couldn't find in his box .... very impressive. 'Tis a real shame he no longer frequents the forum, he was a major asset and a REALLY nice bloke as well.

Agreed, is a real shame
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Re: rear wheel bearing ..... I think
« Reply #5 on: 25 July 2016, 17:39:35 »

When mine was done by a fellow OOFer down in Trowbridge it was 40 minutes from start to finish ... he did have some very "interesting" home made tools just for the job... :)  that 40 minutes did include 5-6 minutes making up a piece on a lathe that he couldn't find in his box .... very impressive. 'Tis a real shame he no longer frequents the forum, he was a major asset and a REALLY nice bloke as well.

Agreed, is a real shame

Yup .. still a member but not been here since October 2015 ... :(
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Re: rear wheel bearing ..... I think
« Reply #6 on: 25 July 2016, 18:13:00 »

IF, and its a big IF, a member of this forum offers their services, (money of course lol) I would travel, but just in Yorkshire or maybe Lincolnshire   :D
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« Reply #7 on: 25 July 2016, 19:03:01 »

  If you were to trael a bit further down to Huntingdon, Serek would be able to sort you out. A very nice bloke, top work been done for many members

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Re: rear wheel bearing ..... I think
« Reply #8 on: 25 July 2016, 19:51:13 »

Daz in Stoke may be able to help ??
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Re: rear wheel bearing ..... I think
« Reply #9 on: 25 July 2016, 20:53:26 »

sadly both venues are out  :( as well over 2 hours away
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Re: rear wheel bearing ..... I think
« Reply #10 on: 25 July 2016, 21:08:02 »

sadly both venues are out  :( as well over 2 hours away
I would sooner travel 2 hrs away to get a job done properly than go round the corner and get a bodge job  :y
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Re: rear wheel bearing ..... I think
« Reply #11 on: 25 July 2016, 21:17:18 »

sadly both venues are out  :( as well over 2 hours away


It's not rocket science. Any capable mechanic should be able to do it in a couple of hours.


I've done three in the street!
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« Reply #12 on: 25 July 2016, 21:30:45 »

sadly both venues are out  :( as well over 2 hours away


It's not rocket science. Any capable mechanic should be able to do it in a couple of hours.


I've done three in the street!
take it a puller/press is needed along with that metal plate ?.. what else do you need to buy Nick ?

http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/index.php?topic=130619.0
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Re: rear wheel bearing ..... I think
« Reply #13 on: 25 July 2016, 22:10:39 »

take it a puller/press is needed along with that metal plate ?.. what else do you need to buy Nick ?

http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/index.php?topic=130619.0


You'll need ordinary hand tools, including Allen and Torx bits.


There are three mildly tricky aspects:


Undoing the hub nut: it's tightened to 300Nm and is under the car.
Extracting the hub from the bearing:the worst part of the job, I made a tool that bolts on the brake backplate and pushes the hub out



Refitting the hub: I pull it through the bearing using the hub nut with a couple of spacers as packers.




Removing the bearing is easy with normal FWD type bearing tools:


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Re: rear wheel bearing ..... I think
« Reply #14 on: 11 August 2016, 20:51:00 »

as an update to this, took car to a very competent garage, they did my MOT etc, and a grease monkey had it up on the ramps, and seemed to be making a "mountain out of a molehill", the resulting  figure for this work was £234.90, will be glad to see the breakdown of charges >:(
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« Reply #15 on: 11 August 2016, 21:21:32 »

as an update to this, took car to a very competent garage, they did my MOT etc, and a grease monkey had it up on the ramps, and seemed to be making a "mountain out of a molehill", the resulting  figure for this work was £234.90, will be glad to see the breakdown of charges >:(


For a £50 part(retail price remember) and a couple of hours work that doesn't seem unreasonable to me.
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« Reply #16 on: 11 August 2016, 21:28:13 »

Well £30 be for the bearing. Assume they fitted the correct one, as saloon and estate are different.
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« Reply #17 on: 11 August 2016, 21:43:47 »

Well £30 be for the bearing. Assume they fitted the correct one, as saloon and estate are different.


The unbranded one I fitted to my Estate 3(4?) years ago was £20 with a trade discount, but no garage is going to pass that price onto a customer.
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« Reply #18 on: 11 August 2016, 21:55:31 »

5 Series ones are £40-80 each... But that includes a new hub nut (fitted from outside) and the four bolts that hold the bearing on... ;D
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« Reply #19 on: 11 August 2016, 22:13:16 »

mine cost me £180 inc the bearing and that was mates rates, it's the VAT which is the killer.
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« Reply #20 on: 11 August 2016, 22:38:55 »

I don't do mate rates on this job :-[
Fag wheel bearing supply and fit £120 Inc vat each

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« Reply #21 on: 11 August 2016, 23:06:25 »

I don't do mate rates on this job :-[
Fag wheel bearing supply and fit £120 Inc vat each


When do you wanna do it ?   ;D ;D ;D ;D
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« Reply #22 on: 12 August 2016, 07:09:34 »

I don't do mate rates on this job :-[
Fag wheel bearing supply and fit £120 Inc vat each


When do you wanna do it ?   ;D ;D ;D ;D

Ring01480 700655 and book it in. :)
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« Reply #23 on: 14 August 2016, 18:33:24 »

ok, so had it done, what a cock up, first they billed me for extra hours, which I suppose may be fair enough, mine must have been a right barsteward, as when putting it all back, it was attacked with a hammer, and copious amounts of strength from 3 different people, trying to get a ball joint back in, the result was....... a broken ball joint, and car was kept in for another day, as it was fri @3pm, and they could not get one until sat morning.... £371 incl VAT, they dit NOT charge for the ball joint, just extra (again) labour  :'(

and was going to get them to do a service and cam belt next month £1000 probably and something will go wrong, think I will get a push bike ;D
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« Reply #24 on: 14 August 2016, 18:59:06 »

ok, so had it done, what a cock up, first they billed me for extra hours, which I suppose may be fair enough, mine must have been a right barsteward, as when putting it all back, it was attacked with a hammer, and copious amounts of strength from 3 different people, trying to get a ball joint back in, the result was....... a broken ball joint, and car was kept in for another day, as it was fri @3pm, and they could not get one until sat morning.... £371 incl VAT, they dit NOT charge for the ball joint, just extra (again) labour  :'(

and was going to get them to do a service and cam belt next month £1000 probably and something will go wrong, think I will get a push bike ;D

Be cheaper, to drive to serek, have a day in hoof'land, then drive home, still be quids in me thinks.
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« Reply #25 on: 14 August 2016, 20:42:46 »

Certainly time to find a new garage...???

Cambelt and full service will be £450 tops...
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Re: rear wheel bearing ..... I think
« Reply #26 on: 14 August 2016, 20:58:31 »

You need to find a better garage.


I've done three wheel bearings, in the street, in about two hours(each)without ever using a hammer or undoing the balljoint. You should be aware that you car should have an alignment check as they will have altered the rear camber and toe settings.


This is not a difficult job, despite Vauxhall's efforts to make it so.
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« Reply #27 on: 15 August 2016, 12:09:27 »

Find another garage. Even if you ignore the fact that they have made an awkward job seem near impossible they then charged you labour to replace something they broke? :o :o ::) ::)
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« Reply #28 on: 16 August 2016, 06:57:49 »

You need to find a better garage.


I've done three wheel bearings, in the street, in about two hours(each)without ever using a hammer or undoing the balljoint. You should be aware that you car should have an alignment check as they will have altered the rear camber and toe settings.


This is not a difficult job, despite Vauxhall's efforts to make it so.
I am going to get alignment done next week. It drives fine now, beeter than before, obviously, BUT was coming back from Durham last night on th A1M, and gradually increased speed on a deserted motorway, vibrations started at 88, and backed of at a ton 10 ;D
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« Reply #29 on: 17 August 2016, 23:31:59 »

must have been a right barsteward, as when putting it all back, it was attacked with a hammer, and copious amounts of strength from 3 different people,

Hitting a bearing in with a hammer is never a good idea as it can damage the internals of the bearing. Keep your receipt some where safe just incase it fails in the near future.
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« Reply #30 on: 18 August 2016, 08:42:38 »

must have been a right barsteward, as when putting it all back, it was attacked with a hammer, and copious amounts of strength from 3 different people,



They obviously didn't leave the bearing in the freezer for 24hrs or clean the wishbone then.
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Re: rear wheel bearing ..... I think
« Reply #31 on: 18 August 2016, 11:23:42 »

Have to say my mate tends to just fit a replacement wishbone in the event of rear bearing issues on Omegas. He breaks them fairly regular, so effectively gets rear wishbones for 'free', when you consider how relatively quickly a rear wishbone can be swapped, if you've got another sitting there, it's a bit of a no-brainer.

At least you're sorted, but yes, as above, keep the receipt!!  :)
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