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Wishbone rear bushes
« on: 10 October 2014, 18:04:10 »

Having replaced the droplinks on the Elite, I am still getting the occasional mid range (ie not heavy or light) clunk from the front suspension. I have polys in the front, is it possible the rear bushes have gone? Is there a simple way to check these? It's done 57k on original wishbones. :-\ :-\ :-\
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Re: Wishbone rear bushes
« Reply #1 on: 10 October 2014, 18:16:33 »

Sometimes if you jack it up, you can see the rear in the rearward bush.
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Re: Wishbone rear bushes
« Reply #2 on: 10 October 2014, 18:37:33 »

Sometimes if you jack it up, you can see the rear in the rearward bush.

Not quite with you there Jaime. :-\
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Re: Wishbone rear bushes
« Reply #3 on: 10 October 2014, 18:55:17 »

Sometimes if you jack it up, you can see the rear in the rearward bush.

Not quite with you there Jaime. :-\
Sorry, tear!  :-[.  You can see the tear!
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Re: Wishbone rear bushes
« Reply #4 on: 10 October 2014, 19:21:16 »

Thks, I'll check. Still not sure if that is the issue. Any other thoughts as to the noise? :-\ :-\ :-\
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Re: Wishbone rear bushes
« Reply #5 on: 10 October 2014, 20:10:13 »

Ball joint perhaps :-\
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Re: Wishbone rear bushes
« Reply #6 on: 10 October 2014, 20:25:43 »

Anything could be loose, or worn. From a loose bumper to a worn wishbone ball joint. Or top mount bearings sticking if while turning.

If it's just dead ahead and over bumps then suspension joint would be my first concern.

If while turning then steering related. If that's not too obvious a statement.

Defo front?

 Clonks have a habit of transmitting through the body.

Also worth checking steering box bolts are tight.
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Re: Wishbone rear bushes
« Reply #7 on: 10 October 2014, 20:35:31 »

And as TB says, with the car jacked up and road wheel removed, you can see the rearward bush, which should be stretched up and down on the inboard and outboard edges of the rubber as it's still attached and sound.

If it's failed enough to knock it will have allowed the wishbone to drop and touch the subframe, in which case the rubber will sit flat, as if the wishbone was level, as it's no longer attached to the metal surround which will be pointing down at an angle as the car is off the ground. Bit like a rose joint.
 A partial failure rarely knocks, but the tear will be visible as a leafy looking piece of thin black rubber sticking up where it would normally be bonded on the outer edge.

If in doubt, take a photo and post it up. :y
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Re: Wishbone rear bushes
« Reply #8 on: 10 October 2014, 20:36:19 »

Chris checked the rear bushes on mine...needed bushes and idler. I bought genuine vauxhall rear bushes from my local dealer in march and they were £40.00 the pair.  :y

I think he put a picture up on here, showing what knackered bushes look like :y
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Re: Wishbone rear bushes
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Re: Wishbone rear bushes
« Reply #10 on: 10 October 2014, 21:04:06 »

Have you tightened the drop links tight enough? I only ask cause on my last omega I thought I had but still clunked due to not being done up tightly :y
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Re: Wishbone rear bushes
« Reply #11 on: 10 October 2014, 22:32:47 »

Thanks for all that guys, up on the jacks tomorrow to check all that. :y :y :y

PS. & then stands!!!
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Re: Wishbone rear bushes
« Reply #12 on: 14 October 2014, 14:04:51 »

Right, both rear bushes are U/S, the offside is worst. My local friendly garage is pressing the new ones in as I speak. Droplinks are tight, so hopefully this will sort the knocking.
Any thoughts on whether the poly fronts are likely to assist in earlier failure of the rears? :y

New bolts from VX only come in packs of 3!!!, so £23 for 6 bolts and nuts. >:(
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Re: Wishbone rear bushes
« Reply #13 on: 14 October 2014, 15:06:51 »

Right, both rear bushes are U/S, the offside is worst. My local friendly garage is pressing the new ones in as I speak. Droplinks are tight, so hopefully this will sort the knocking.
Any thoughts on whether the poly fronts are likely to assist in earlier failure of the rears? :y

New bolts from VX only come in packs of 3!!!, so £23 for 6 bolts and nuts. >:(

Its never a nice feeling walking out the stealers with a sore ass  :(
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Re: Wishbone rear bushes
« Reply #14 on: 14 October 2014, 16:20:57 »

You don't need the wb bolts. Re use the old ones if you wish.

It's better to replace the pinch bolts and nuts if anything. (Lemforder bones co e with these in the bag, for example)


Imo poly help the rearward bush last longer, as there is less give in the poly. This allows less yaw/twist on the rearward bush. To my thinking anyway.
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