Topic: 2004 VW Touran Diesel wont start, not lights on dashboard (Read 12527 times)

steve6367 · « **on:** 18 February 2014, 11:01:12 »

No lights on dashboard, car cranks over ok and fires for 1 second or so and then stops.

Not Omega, but the VW forums don't seem to have any thoughts so thought I would try here. If its not allowed then please delete :-)

Many thanks

Steve

andymp · « **Reply #1 on:** 18 February 2014, 11:32:29 »

Fuel lift pump...?

steve6367 · « **Reply #2 on:** 18 February 2014, 13:43:06 »

Good call, I will have a check. Slightly puzzled as to why non of the normal dash lights come on when switching ignition on though.

Steve

Ever Ready · « **Reply #3 on:** 18 February 2014, 17:13:20 »

Bit strange that you get no dash lights, although you can crank the engine over you may not be energising certain units that need to have power eg fuel pump as stated

steve6367 · « **Reply #4 on:** 18 February 2014, 21:01:59 »

Gone though all fuses and relays tonight.

It does just seem there is no power to the Instrument Cluster as is seems totally dead. I believe on this car the immobiliser is part of the cluster so I guess that could explain the failure to run.

No codes stored.

Giving up for tonight!

Steve

steve6367 · « **Reply #5 on:** 18 February 2014, 21:05:31 »

Thank you TB :-)

henryd · « **Reply #6 on:** 18 February 2014, 21:09:12 »

Quote from: steve6367 on 18 February 2014, 21:01:59

Gone though all fuses and relays tonight.

It does just seem there is no power to the Instrument Cluster as is seems totally dead. I believe on this car the immobiliser is part of the cluster so I guess that could explain the failure to run.

No codes stored.

Giving up for tonight!

Steve

You could do with vagcom or similar being plugged and a global scan carried out,that should give you some idea as to what bits aren't working

steve6367 · « **Reply #7 on:** 18 February 2014, 21:20:55 »

I just tried downloading the free version, but it does not seem to recognise my Gendan EOBD interface unfortunately.

Maybe time to find someone who can :-)

Steve

hoofing it · « **Reply #8 on:** 18 February 2014, 21:44:01 »

Quote from: steve6367 on 18 February 2014, 11:01:12

No lights on dashboard, car cranks over ok and fires for 1 second or so and then stops.

Not Omega, but the VW forums don't seem to have any thoughts so thought I would try here. If its not allowed then please delete :-)

Many thanks

Steve

Immobiliser problem here.
Does the key fob work ok

DrAndyB · « **Reply #9 on:** 18 February 2014, 21:52:29 »

Depends where you are, but if stuck then "unit 20 vw audi specialist" maybe worth a go. Based in Neston on the Wirral in Cheshire. Everybody I know with VW's goes there, and has some nice RS6's and S8's

. Spookily I have a VW Touran too! But not a patch on my Omega V6

which i seek comfort from the great and the good on this tremendous forum

.

Good luck.

tidla · « **Reply #10 on:** 18 February 2014, 23:08:02 »

Engine number and mileage?

At a guess some of the engines have a shut off flap in the air intake manifold which fails to open due to carbon build up. push the flap arm to confirm. Gives the start for a second symptom.

Vamps · « **Reply #11 on:** 18 February 2014, 23:34:18 »

Quote from: DrAndyB on 18 February 2014, 21:52:29

Depends where you are, but if stuck then "unit 20 vw audi specialist" maybe worth a go. Based in Neston on the Wirral in Cheshire. Everybody I know with VW's goes there, and has some nice RS6's and S8's . Spookily I have a VW Touran too! But not a patch on my Omega V6 which i seek comfort from the great and the good on this tremendous forum .

Good luck.

Andy B, you have been trumped by a Dr...........

Andy B · « **Reply #12 on:** 18 February 2014, 23:37:55 »

Quote from: Vamps on 18 February 2014, 23:34:18

Quote from: DrAndyB on 18 February 2014, 21:52:29
Depends where you are, but if stuck then "unit 20 vw audi specialist" maybe worth a go. Based in Neston on the Wirral in Cheshire. Everybody I know with VW's goes there, and has some nice RS6's and S8's . Spookily I have a VW Touran too! But not a patch on my Omega V6 which i seek comfort from the great and the good on this tremendous forum .

Good luck.

Andy B, you have been trumped by a Dr...........

SWMBO has family around & they needed to be spoken to

Vamps · « **Reply #13 on:** 19 February 2014, 00:19:18 »

Quote from: Andy B on 18 February 2014, 23:37:55

Quote from: Vamps on 18 February 2014, 23:34:18
Quote from: DrAndyB on 18 February 2014, 21:52:29
Depends where you are, but if stuck then "unit 20 vw audi specialist" maybe worth a go. Based in Neston on the Wirral in Cheshire. Everybody I know with VW's goes there, and has some nice RS6's and S8's . Spookily I have a VW Touran too! But not a patch on my Omega V6 which i seek comfort from the great and the good on this tremendous forum .

Good luck.

Andy B, you have been trumped by a Dr...........

SWMBO has family around & they needed to be spoken to

henryd · « **Reply #14 on:** 19 February 2014, 00:23:42 »

Quote from: tidla on 18 February 2014, 23:08:02

Engine number and mileage?

At a guess some of the engines have a shut off flap in the air intake manifold which fails to open due to carbon build up. push the flap arm to confirm. Gives the start for a second symptom.

Good call,they do indeed have that flap go faulty but doesn't explain lack of dash lights

hoody · « **Reply #15 on:** 19 February 2014, 01:39:14 »

Faulty instrument cluster

,linked to immobiliser,try a battery disconnect or take the cluster out and check for dampness/leave it near a radiator a while and try it again.

DrAndyB · « **Reply #16 on:** 20 February 2014, 18:28:05 »

Yep a Dr.

. And cough sir

Vamps · « **Reply #17 on:** 20 February 2014, 23:15:56 »

Quote from: DrAndyB on 20 February 2014, 18:28:05

Yep a Dr. . And cough sir

You need to warm those hands first.......

Taxi_Driver · « **Reply #18 on:** 22 February 2014, 17:53:19 »

Quote from: steve6367 on 18 February 2014, 21:01:59

Gone though all fuses and relays tonight.

It does just seem there is no power to the Instrument Cluster as is seems totally dead. I believe on this car the immobiliser is part of the cluster so I guess that could explain the failure to run.

No codes stored.

Giving up for tonight!

Steve

Does that include the 'big' fuses near the battery??

I had similar on a vectra, wouldnt start and no dash lights......found a 30/40/50/60 amp (cannot remember which) fuse blown near the battery .... replaced it and away it went ....

05omegav6 · « **Reply #19 on:** 22 February 2014, 18:00:40 »

Transits are good at that if you go straight from key in to crank rather than letting the ignition switch on step by step

steve6367 · « **Reply #20 on:** 24 February 2014, 10:26:18 »

Thank you all for the advise........the following morning is worked perfectly!

Clearly need to know what happened to have confidence in the future. Lots of codes logged when did get to read, I suspect a result of pulling all the fuses. (included those by the battery).

If I get any solution, will update here.

Steve

Beno148 · « **Reply #21 on:** 03 November 2019, 18:56:32 »

Quote from: steve6367 on 24 February 2014, 10:26:18

Thank you all for the advise........the following morning is worked perfectly!

Clearly need to know what happened to have confidence in the future. Lots of codes logged when did get to read, I suspect a result of pulling all the fuses. (included those by the battery).

If I get any solution, will update here.

Steve

Hi Steve,

Did you manage to get this sorted?

Same happened to ours and then started again next day.

Thank you

Ben

STEMO · « **Reply #22 on:** 03 November 2019, 20:56:13 »

Holy thread resurrection, Batman

Sir Tigger KC · « **Reply #23 on:** 04 November 2019, 00:01:12 »

The power of google!

And we'll be waiting with baited breath to see if Ben gets his answer!

TheBoy · « **Reply #24 on:** 04 November 2019, 19:23:20 »

Ben's post reinstated, I think it was erroneously marked as spam before.

I think the OP still gets on here occasionally

steve6367 · « **Reply #25 on:** 25 June 2020, 10:17:27 »

Quote from: Beno148 on 03 November 2019, 18:56:32

Quote from: steve6367 on 24 February 2014, 10:26:18
Thank you all for the advise........the following morning is worked perfectly!

Clearly need to know what happened to have confidence in the future. Lots of codes logged when did get to read, I suspect a result of pulling all the fuses. (included those by the battery).

If I get any solution, will update here.

Steve

Hi Ben, kind of - took the cluster out and in a few times and it started and has done since this post. However the cluster lights and sounds don't work. Hey ho it passed several MOTs!

Steve

Hi Steve,

Did you manage to get this sorted?

Same happened to ours and then started again next day.

Thank you

Ben

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