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[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

Presumably the warning is related to the front pads and not the rear. The car has covered 19600 miles. Looking through the wheels the pads appear to have 5-6mm of 'meat' left........the drivers side having slightly less.

Just ignore the warning or can I switch it off?

 

[STEMO]

Presumably the warning is related to the front pads and not the rear. The car has covered 19600 miles. Looking through the wheels the pads appear to have 5-6mm of 'meat' left........the drivers side having slightly less.

Just ignore the warning or can I switch it off?

What do the good people on the jag forum say? Just throw it away and buy a new one? 

[Sir Tigger KC]

Get it trailered to your friendly Jag dealer pronto! 

[STEMO]

I wouldn't want to be 'making progress' in that beast and suddenly run out of brake pedal.

[TheBoy]

There are sensors front and rear.  Like all sensors, there will be plenty of pad on, mores if the discs are lipped....

....*BUT* the less pad material thats left, the lower the cooling ability.  For that reason I tend to change mine before or when the sensor breaks.



Not ability to turn off the warning, but like most cars, you can short the sensors.

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

Presumably the warning is related to the front pads and not the rear. The car has covered 19600 miles. Looking through the wheels the pads appear to have 5-6mm of 'meat' left........the drivers side having slightly less.

Just ignore the warning or can I switch it off?

What do the good people on the jag forum say? Just throw it away and buy a new one? 

Take it to your local dealer is all they know. Lazy fat bastards.

[Viral_Jim]

Presumably the warning is related to the front pads and not the rear. The car has covered 19600 miles. Looking through the wheels the pads appear to have 5-6mm of 'meat' left........the drivers side having slightly less.

The bimmer used to use the rear pads for traction control, so they may well be more worn than you think, depending on your driving style. 

[TheBoy]

Presumably the warning is related to the front pads and not the rear. The car has covered 19600 miles. Looking through the wheels the pads appear to have 5-6mm of 'meat' left........the drivers side having slightly less.

The bimmer used to use the rear pads for traction control, so they may well be more worn than you think, depending on your driving style. 

As does the (post 98) Omega

[Marks DTM Calib]

Presumably the warning is related to the front pads and not the rear. The car has covered 19600 miles. Looking through the wheels the pads appear to have 5-6mm of 'meat' left........the drivers side having slightly less.

The bimmer used to use the rear pads for traction control, so they may well be more worn than you think, depending on your driving style. 

Not stability control, more vectoring to get the back to turn tighter corners 

[Sir Tigger KC]

Presumably the warning is related to the front pads and not the rear. The car has covered 19600 miles. Looking through the wheels the pads appear to have 5-6mm of 'meat' left........the drivers side having slightly less.

The bimmer used to use the rear pads for traction control, so they may well be more worn than you think, depending on your driving style. 

It seems he prefers driving the rusty old Vauxhall.... 

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

Rear pads appear to have only 2-3 mm left so I'm guessing this is why the low pad warning light came on.

I'll price up new pads, discs all appear to be fine, with no 'lips'

[Sir Tigger KC]

Rear pads appear to have only 2-3 mm left so I'm guessing this is why the low pad warning light came on.

I'll price up new pads, discs all appear to be fine, with no 'lips'

I'm sure you'll find a 'How to..' guide in the maintenance section of the Jag forum. 

[Sir Tigger KC]

Although you might find that the caliper pistons are electronically wound in and you'll need JagTech (or whatever their system is called) for that. 

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

Jaguar fixed pricing for cars 3 years and older.

Front pads £195......or £235 with new sensors,
Rear pads £159 ......or £235 with new sensors.

Presumably they can re-use the old sensors provided they are not 'Donald Ducked'

Are sensors even necessary?

[STEMO]

Jaguar fixed pricing for cars 3 years and older.

Front pads £195......or £235 with new sensors,
Rear pads £159 ......or £235 with new sensors.

Presumably they can re-use the old sensors provided they are not 'Donald Ducked'

Are sensors even necessary?

Rear pads down to 2-3mm. Are sensors even necessary? 

[henryd]

Jaguar fixed pricing for cars 3 years and older.

Front pads £195......or £235 with new sensors,
Rear pads £159 ......or £235 with new sensors.

Presumably they can re-use the old sensors provided they are not 'Donald Ducked'

Are sensors even necessary?

If the sensor has lit the light it's donald

[Marks DTM Calib]

Although you might find that the caliper pistons are electronically wound in and you'll need JagTech (or whatever their system is called) for that. 

This isnt VAG tat, you can achieve it on most JLR products with a few switch presses 

[Sir Tigger KC]

Although you might find that the caliper pistons are electronically wound in and you'll need JagTech (or whatever their system is called) for that. 

This isnt VAG tat, you can achieve it on most JLR products with a few switch presses 

That'll be too much for Lord Opti unfortunately. 

[Sir Tigger KC]

Jaguar fixed pricing for cars 3 years and older.

Front pads £195......or £235 with new sensors,
Rear pads £159 ......or £235 with new sensors.

Presumably they can re-use the old sensors provided they are not 'Donald Ducked'

Are sensors even necessary?

You could use the two audio sensors that you have on each side of your head, and when you hear the grinding noise it's time for new pads. 

It's only a £30k car after all! 

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

Jaguar fixed pricing for cars 3 years and older.

Front pads £195......or £235 with new sensors,
Rear pads £159 ......or £235 with new sensors.

Presumably they can re-use the old sensors provided they are not 'Donald Ducked'

Are sensors even necessary?

You could use the two audio sensors that you have on each side of your head, and when you hear the grinding noise it's time for new pads. 

It's only a £30k car after all! 

........and discs.

[Sir Tigger KC]

Jaguar fixed pricing for cars 3 years and older.

Front pads £195......or £235 with new sensors,
Rear pads £159 ......or £235 with new sensors.

Presumably they can re-use the old sensors provided they are not 'Donald Ducked'

Are sensors even necessary?

You could use the two audio sensors that you have on each side of your head, and when you hear the grinding noise it's time for new pads. 

It's only a £30k car after all! 

........and discs.

You're getting a bit picky now. 

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

The boys at Kwik Fit want £125 for the front and £95 for the rear.......which includes new sensors.

What's the worst that could happen?

[STEMO]

The boys at Kwik Fit want £125 for the front and £95 for the rear.......which includes new sensors.

What's the worst that could happen?

The spotty yoof who takes it for a 'road test' will wrap it round a tree at 120mph?

[Doctor Gollum]

The boys at Kwik Fit want £125 for the front and £95 for the rear.......which includes new sensors.

What's the worst that could happen?

The spooky yoof who takes it for a 'road test' will wrap it round a tree at 120mph?

I took my Dad's Sierra to my local Kwikshit for an exhaust.

They spun the rear wheels across the carpark, through the workshop and onto the ramp.

The manager had nothing to say when I laid into him in front of the full waiting area.

Suffice to say he very carefully backed it out a couple of minutes later. Kuntz.

[STEMO]

The boys at Kwik Fit want £125 for the front and £95 for the rear.......which includes new sensors.

What's the worst that could happen?

The spooky yoof who takes it for a 'road test' will wrap it round a tree at 120mph?

I took my Dad's Sierra to my local Kwikshit for an exhaust.

They spun the rear wheels across the carpark, through the workshop and onto the ramp.

The manager had nothing to say when I laid into him in front of the full waiting area.

Suffice to say he very carefully backed it out a couple of minutes later. Kuntz.

I took a zafira in for an MOT. While I was waiting for the missus to pick me up, I saw a yoof drive it down the road. I know it's only a zafira, but I was still peed off, so I asked the manager where he'd gone. 'For the parts for your car'. Yeah, right. I waited till he turned up with the bacon sarnies and took my keys back. Kuntz.

[Doctor Gollum]

It's the way they think you're stupid that grips my piss.

Mind you, they have a point otherwise they would have no customers 

[Sir Tigger KC]

These any good M'lud? 

https://www.jaguarfuelconversions.co.uk/

http://www.lincs-jag-specialist.co.uk/about-us/

[Sir Tigger KC]

The first lot could convert it to LPG for you as well. 

[TheBoy]

oppswit Jaguar Dealer - Lancaster Milton Keynes - took mine out for lunch, delaying me by an hour waiting for them to get back when I went to pick it up.

Scum.

[Doctor Gollum]

I don't understand how they think that's a good idea

If something happens then they're not insured, the car's not insured and throw a dose of TWOC into it and there's the whole unemployment situation and dealer reputation damage... Not to mention fixing/replacing the car and all the hassle that goes with that.

[STEMO]

I don't understand how they think that's a good idea

If something happens then they're not insured, the car's not insured and throw a dose of TWOC into it and there's the whole unemployment situation and dealer reputation damage... Not to mention fixing/replacing the car and all the hassle that goes with that.

I think they probably are insured. Motor dealers insurance or something.

[TheBoy]

I don't understand how they think that's a good idea

If something happens then they're not insured, the car's not insured and throw a dose of TWOC into it and there's the whole unemployment situation and dealer reputation damage... Not to mention fixing/replacing the car and all the hassle that goes with that.

I think they probably are insured. Motor dealers insurance or something.

Its usually liability only...

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

These any good M'lud? 

https://www.jaguarfuelconversions.co.uk/

http://www.lincs-jag-specialist.co.uk/about-us/

I know this fella, albeit not well. He is part of the Jaguar club.

[Sir Tigger KC]

These any good M'lud? 

https://www.jaguarfuelconversions.co.uk/

http://www.lincs-jag-specialist.co.uk/about-us/

I know this fella, albeit not well. He is part of the Jaguar club.

Probably worth getting to know him a bit better then. 

[Doctor Gollum]

I don't understand how they think that's a good idea

If something happens then they're not insured, the car's not insured and throw a dose of TWOC into it and there's the whole unemployment situation and dealer reputation damage... Not to mention fixing/replacing the car and all the hassle that goes with that.

I think they probably are insured. Motor dealers insurance or something.

Its usually liability only...

Which won't cover the spotted yoof wrapping it around a post at Maccy Ds

[Sir Tigger KC]

These any good M'lud? 

https://www.jaguarfuelconversions.co.uk/

http://www.lincs-jag-specialist.co.uk/about-us/

I know this fella, albeit not well. He is part of the Jaguar club.

Probably worth getting to know him a bit better then. 

Although..... Are you not persona non grata at the Jaguar club?     

[Kevin Wood]

I don't understand how they think that's a good idea

If something happens then they're not insured, the car's not insured and throw a dose of TWOC into it and there's the whole unemployment situation and dealer reputation damage... Not to mention fixing/replacing the car and all the hassle that goes with that.

I think they probably are insured. Motor dealers insurance or something.

Its usually liability only...

Which won't cover the spotted yoof wrapping it around a post at Maccy Ds

Indeed. I doubt it'll cover SD&P use at all.

[biggriffin]

I don't understand how they think that's a good idea

If something happens then they're not insured, the car's not insured and throw a dose of TWOC into it and there's the whole unemployment situation and dealer reputation damage... Not to mention fixing/replacing the car and all the hassle that goes with that.

 O dear, when one was aboy, the things we use to do with Customers cars, ,, The Lunch run was a regular,as was going to get parts, but if it was a Red Label Turbo, Road test time.

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

All sorted £100. I even gave them a £5 tip because  I am such a very nice man.

I have the old pads, the inner pads look more shagged than the outer pads.

Replacement pads are Pagid T2072 according to the box.

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

They wanted to drive the car to check all was fine. I declined. First time I have had such a request.

[Sir Tigger KC]

Pagid....

Sounds like a brand of soft French cheese. 

[Migv6 le Frog Fan]

Available from all god branches of Eurocraparts. 

[Doctor Gollum]

Available from all god branches of Eurocraparts. 

Things must be bad if Eurocraparts have turned to pedalling religion

[Marks DTM Calib]

Pagid....

Sounds like a brand of soft French cheese. 

You are spot on, complete crap 

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

Pagid....

Sounds like a brand of soft French cheese. 

You are spot on, complete crap 

I think the pads were original, so lasted 19500 miles. I'll see how long the Pagid pads last.

Most of the braking power is the responsibility of the front brakes so perhaps it won't matter too much if the rear brakes are piss poor.

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

I only have 570 BHP and 530 lb ft of torque. What's the worst that can happen?......

[Doctor Gollum]

Switch the ESP off and they may last a couple of months 

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

Switch the ESP off and they may last a couple of months 

I have DSC off ......and Trac DSC which allows for a certain amount of slip and slide. Even with the DSC fully engaged it still seems to slide quite a bit before being reined in.......which is quite surprising,

[Marks DTM Calib]

Pagid....

Sounds like a brand of soft French cheese. 

You are spot on, complete crap 

I think the pads were original, so lasted 19500 miles. I'll see how long the Pagid pads last.

Most of the braking power is the responsibility of the front brakes so perhaps it won't matter too much if the rear brakes are piss poor.

They are not great for high speed braking and when hot (and the vectoring function they can get hot, rear pads are very important on modern cars).

Lots of dust to, so not good for alloy wheel finish 

At the end of the day, they are a cheap entry level pad 

[Marks DTM Calib]

Switch the ESP off and they may last a couple of months 

I have DSC off ......and Trac DSC which allows for a certain amount of slip and slide. Even with the DSC fully engaged it still seems to slide quite a bit before being reined in.......which is quite surprising,

That's both intentional and a characteristic of the both system

[TheBoy]

Available from all god branches of Eurocraparts. 

Things must be bad if Eurocraparts have turned to pedalling religion

I think in the UK now, they are exclusive to Eurocraparts.

[TheBoy]

Pagid....

Sounds like a brand of soft French cheese. 

You are spot on, complete crap 

I currently have them all round on the Black Pussy due to needing some in a hurry.  I've had huge issues with Pagid on the Battlebus and the Omega, so definitely not my first choice (although I did buy it with Pagid all round).

However, I'm pleasantly surprised, they take some abuse and have lasted better than expected, and I haven't felt the need to replace them early, like I did on the Battlebus (after about a month as couldn't get them to bite) or Omega (couple of weeks due to overheating issues).  Very dusty though, and the allows are stained. All 4 alloys, not just the front.

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

Pagid....

Sounds like a brand of soft French cheese. 

You are spot on, complete crap 

I currently have them all round on the Black Pussy due to needing some in a hurry.  I've had huge issues with Pagid on the Battlebus and the Omega, so definitely not my first choice (although I did buy it with Pagid all round).

However, I'm pleasantly surprised, they take some abuse and have lasted better than expected, and I haven't felt the need to replace them early, like I did on the Battlebus (after about a month as couldn't get them to bite) or Omega (couple of weeks due to overheating issues).  Very dusty though, and the allows are stained. All 4 alloys, not just the front.

OK......so it looks like I'll be dead and buried by the weekend. At least they don't squeal though, which  I find annoying in both women and cars.

[TheBoy]

I'm interested in how your think they compare to the originals, once you have bedded them in

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

I'm interested in how your think they compare to the originals, once you have bedded them in

Will do....TB. ........So far they seem fine.

The box has 'engineered in Germany' written all over it, which presumably means they are manufactured somewhere on the dark continent by small brown boys without shoes.

[Migv6 le Frog Fan]

Yes, a German "engineer" sent a spec sheet to Taiwan to instruct them how to make them.