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Omega issue newbie
« on: 24 May 2016, 18:41:01 »

So the father-in -law has bought himself a "cheap runaround" , A 2002 Omega 2.2 Petrol Auto..... only thing is it has come with a few little niggles ..... first thing he had done was a full Oil,plugs filters service but he is complaining of poor startups when left sat for a while... as im unlucky enough to own a toolbox and fault code reader and a driveway i've been nominated to take a look and see if he has bought a lemon ...... the car is tidy enough for 400 quid however it seems that these issues may be pretty common on this particular engine after a quick google...... however google something random like cut.... graze or peanut butter and im sure that too will come back somewhere along the line as "may cause cancer" so I came to the place of knowledge ( hopefully ).

So while I take some time to look around this forum i'd appreciate any help on the subject and leave you with a few error codes to give me an opinion on.

P1781 - Manufacturer Control

P0170 - Fuel Trim Bank 1

Some older codes I got that did clear and didnt come back was..

P0560 - System Voltage ( I think this was cured with a new battery )

P0706 - Transmission Range, Sensor A circuit range/ performance

I took a brief look at the throttle body and it was black bright... needs a really good clean and when you open up the throttle you can see loads of oil down at the bottom,the two small breather pipes from the rocker cover to the air feed pipe were gunked up and one or more of the plugs did have oil in there ( all cleaned up with new plugs now )... the cam sensor has been replaced a few weeks ago too as his other son in law saw this was a common fault too but now we just dont want him throwing money at its a horror story once you start looking up on it... as in

Cam sensors,02 sensors,knackered throttle body, coilpacks,plugs,crankshaft sensor,MAF sensor,Pistonrings bla bla bla

Thanks in advance for any tips/links i may need

Cheers
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Re: Omega issue newbie
« Reply #1 on: 24 May 2016, 18:51:48 »

Can't help with the actual issues,however you might want to ask an admin to move this post to omega help section?
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Re: Omega issue newbie
« Reply #2 on: 24 May 2016, 19:00:22 »

Ah good call, ill try to get hold of a mod :)
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Re: Omega issue newbie
« Reply #3 on: 24 May 2016, 21:04:57 »

Hi, welcome to the forum.  :y

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Re: Omega issue newbie
« Reply #4 on: 24 May 2016, 21:58:46 »

Hi and welcome to the forum  :y
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Re: Omega issue newbie
« Reply #5 on: 25 May 2016, 08:26:11 »

thanks for the welcome guys :)
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Re: Omega issue newbie
« Reply #6 on: 25 May 2016, 08:28:35 »

I'd be looking at the Cam sensor first, then clear the codes and see if anything else returns.

Cam sensors well known on these for chucking up those extra codes which wont be valid

These are fussy, so stick to a genuine sensor, not an ebay cheapy.

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Re: Omega issue newbie
« Reply #7 on: 25 May 2016, 10:04:50 »

I'd be looking at the Cam sensor first, then clear the codes and see if anything else returns.

Cam sensors well known on these for chucking up those extra codes which wont be valid

These are fussy, so stick to a genuine sensor, purchased from a genuine Vx dealer, that YOU genuinely have to walk into, not an ebay cheapy.
Fixed to avoid confusion :y
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Re: Omega issue newbie
« Reply #8 on: 25 May 2016, 11:14:03 »

Thanks for that, I can confirm that he did replace the cam sensor....  However it was just from a local motor parts place, 40 quid... So it won't be a genuine item.
I'm looking at stripping the throttle body and a big breather pipe... I cleared the two smaller ones
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Re: Omega issue newbie
« Reply #9 on: 25 May 2016, 11:19:34 »

Thanks for that, I can confirm that he did replace the cam sensor....  However it was just from a local motor parts place, 40 quid... So it won't be a genuine item.
I'm looking at stripping the throttle body and a big breather pipe... I cleared the two smaller ones
Genuine are arong the £70 mark retail
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Re: Omega issue newbie
« Reply #10 on: 25 May 2016, 13:41:43 »

Thanks for that, I can confirm that he did replace the cam sensor....  However it was just from a local motor parts place, 40 quid... So it won't be a genuine item.
I'm looking at stripping the throttle body and a big breather pipe... I cleared the two smaller ones
There's a guide for this... the breather pipe pipe up from the sump is just as likely to be full of muck ;)
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Re: Omega issue newbie
« Reply #11 on: 25 May 2016, 13:49:02 »

Yeah seen the sump breather guide, the two smaller rocker pipes were full of muck so the main culprit must be just as bad if not worse... i'll hopefully look at this for him at the weekend.... I better order a T/B Gasket too while im at it :)
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Re: Omega issue newbie
« Reply #12 on: 29 May 2016, 16:04:36 »

Well had the sump breather off and to he honest it was quite clean, a bit of crispy crud but nothing too major.
However I did take the throttle body off and gave it a good clean, the tiny hole was completely blocked up so cleared and cleaned that.... Not sure what it is but it is now clear :)
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Re: Omega issue newbie
« Reply #13 on: 29 May 2016, 16:44:19 »

Also I'm not sure if this is of any help but I got this off code reader



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Re: Omega issue newbie
« Reply #14 on: 29 May 2016, 17:35:59 »

How does it run now?

I don't think the problem is the cam sensor, I think you have been lucky fitting a non genuine sensor.
My old 2.2 always used to complain of the cam sensor when it acted up, which btw was hot starts, cold starts was fine.
Plus the car would go into 'limp home' mode, which the OP hasn't mentioned.
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