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Chat Area => General Discussion Area => Topic started by: Andy H on 13 August 2018, 23:31:34

Title: Internet Providers
Post by: Andy H on 13 August 2018, 23:31:34
Many years ago I signed up with Nildram for broadband, email and some space for a website.

After a few years Nildram got taken over by Tiscali. The new owners didn't manage to break my internet and I didn't want to lose my email address or the web space so I stuck with them.

After a few years Tiscali got taken over by TalkTalk. The new owners didn't manage to break my internet and I didn't want to lose my email address or the web space so I stuck with them.

Until last month that is when TalkTalk turned off my web space. >:(

Not sure which way to jump now. There were two things that had me hanging on to a ridiculously slow connection at an inflated price - an email address and a  web space address that I have been using for 15 years. Now the web address has gone it is just the email address that I am clinging on to. I will be switching to a new provider as soon as I can.

Thinking of going with Zen this time.

I don't really want to bother with registering my own domain  :-\ but I think I will have to if I want to be able to switch provider and have some control over my email and web space.
Title: Re: Internet Providers
Post by: aaronjb on 14 August 2018, 08:17:25
IMHO your choices are:

1) Register a domain name, host your email and web stuff there
2) Use gmail for email and forget about hosting a web site

If going 1, don't rent your own (web) server, unless you are technically competent and want to spend your time patching, securing and maintaining it..

FWIW, Zen are probably the best ISP I've ever had.
Title: Re: Internet Providers
Post by: Kevin Wood on 14 August 2018, 08:29:36
Yep,  you won't regret going with zen.
Getting a domain name is the best way to give yourself flexibility. Might as well do it now and only suffer a change of email, erc. Once imho.
Title: Re: Internet Providers
Post by: Mister Rog on 14 August 2018, 09:55:38


I've sort of had the same thing and decided to get a Gmail account. The problem is that Gmail tries to force you into a crap email address like joebloggs25641@gmail. I managed to get myname100@ which isn't too bad. I still have my 20 or so year old emaill address that I bought "for life" but who says the company will keep going that long or will honour it. There have been numerous takovers along the way. At least having email that is independent of ISP provides some freedom to switch in the future.

 
Title: Re: Internet Providers
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 14 August 2018, 15:25:12
If you have a proper name, you don't need a number ::)
Title: Re: Internet Providers
Post by: aaronjb on 14 August 2018, 15:25:51
If you have a proper name, you don't need a number ::)

Or if you got in there years ago..  :D
Title: Re: Internet Providers
Post by: Kevin Wood on 14 August 2018, 16:05:46
If you have a proper name, you don't need a number ::)

Or if you got in there Google have been reading your email for years ago..  :D

FTFY. :y
Title: Re: Internet Providers
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 14 August 2018, 16:20:47
Have yet to send anything of interest  :D

Besides, if they are, then they can filter my spam for me :D
Title: Re: Internet Providers
Post by: TheBoy on 14 August 2018, 16:21:10
Get a domain name.  Will save all these issues in the future.

Very few ISPs offer web space now. Try to remain independent of the ISP...


I'm with Zen, no issues, but not the cheapest. I have "odd" requirements, including OOF, which means moving would be a lot of pain.
Title: Re: Internet Providers
Post by: aaronjb on 14 August 2018, 16:32:32
If you have a proper name, you don't need a number ::)

Or if you got in there Google have been reading your email for years ago..  :D

FTFY. :y

Google owns me, I think my soul belongs to Sergei Brin at this point.
Title: Re: Internet Providers
Post by: deviator on 14 August 2018, 17:40:47
Oddly enough I've come home to find a letter from BT saying my prices are going up. Guess who has already cancelled BT and setup a new provider.

Title: Re: Internet Providers
Post by: Rods2 on 14 August 2018, 17:42:55
If you have a proper name, you don't need a number ::)

Or if you got in there Google have been reading your email for years ago..  :D

FTFY. :y

Google owns me, I think my soul belongs to Sergei Brin Vladimir Putin at this point.

FTFI where all the main US tech companies have major share holdings owned by Russian front companies and they have had major hearts, minds and espionage programs aimed at key personnel. The worst two for this are the social media companies Arsebook and Shitter. The same also applies to Chinese intel penetration. As part of the US pushback, this is going to get 'interesting' for the tech companies and their culture and regulation and change things dramatically over the next few years. :o :o :o
Title: Re: Internet Providers
Post by: Andy H on 14 August 2018, 17:49:48
If you have a proper name, you don't need a number ::)

Or if you got in there Google have been reading your email for years ago..  :D

FTFY. :y
I did have the sense to pick a decent Gmail address a long time ago and very useful it is too  :y But I do assume that Google is reading everything I send and receive  hence the desire for a separate email account.
Title: Re: Internet Providers
Post by: deviator on 14 August 2018, 17:53:06
If you have a proper name, you don't need a number ::)

Or if you got in there Google have been reading your email for years ago..  :D

FTFY. :y
I did have the sense to pick a decent Gmail address a long time ago and very useful it is too  :y But I do assume that Google is reading everything I send and receive  hence the desire for a separate email account.

Considering they track anyone making searches or using Google maps, even when you've told them not track you and have location services off, it's not a far jump to reading email.
Title: Re: Internet Providers
Post by: STEMO on 14 August 2018, 18:18:37
If you have a proper name, you don't need a number ::)

Or if you got in there Google have been reading your email for years ago..  :D

FTFY. :y

Google owns me, I think my soul belongs to Sergei Brin Vladimir Putin at this point.

FTFI where all the main US tech companies have major share holdings owned by Russian front companies and they have had major hearts, minds and espionage programs aimed at key personnel. The worst two for this are the social media companies Arsebook and Shitter. The same also applies to Chinese intel penetration. As part of the US pushback, this is going to get 'interesting' for the tech companies and their culture and regulation and change things dramatically over the next few years. :o :o :o
Intel penetration. Sounds nice  :-*
Title: Re: Internet Providers
Post by: aaronjb on 14 August 2018, 18:42:37
I did have the sense to pick a decent Gmail address a long time ago and very useful it is too  :y But I do assume that Google is reading everything I send and receive  hence the desire for a separate email account.

Since email is considered a clear-text protocol (i.e. transport between mail servers is commonly unencrypted), I assume GCHQ/NSA/etc read all my email anyway ;) If you need any sense of privacy then you need end-to-end encryption (PGP or similar), so, really, Google is just one more person reading your email  :)
Title: Re: Internet Providers
Post by: TheBoy on 15 August 2018, 18:19:30
If you have a proper name, you don't need a number ::)

Or if you got in there Google have been reading your email for years ago..  :D

FTFY. :y
I did have the sense to pick a decent Gmail address a long time ago and very useful it is too  :y But I do assume that Google is reading everything I send and receive  hence the desire for a separate email account.

Considering they track anyone making searches or using Google maps, even when you've told them not track you and have location services off, it's not a far jump to reading email.
Not to mention all the shit Chrome and Android report back...

...and of course google read email, but probably for no other purpose than to target ads.
Title: Re: Internet Providers
Post by: Andy H on 07 October 2018, 12:06:48
Yep,  you won't regret going with zen.
Getting a domain name is the best way to give yourself flexibility. Might as well do it now and only suffer a change of email, erc. Once imho.
Right -  registered my own domain 6 weeks ago and signed up with Zen to get it hosted.
The new email has been working fine so I pressed the button 2 weeks ago to switch phone and internet connection as well.

Switch should occur tomorrow - mobile phone doesn't work in this part of Cornwall so should be interesting if the new connection doesn't work first time.....