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Title: I need a new car key. My local dealer can no longer supply. Now what?
Post by: terry paget on 09 July 2019, 13:56:54
Went to my local Vx dealer to order a new key; he told me he is no longer 'enfranchised', has not a Tech2, so cannot sychronise keys. He is looking for a Tech2 clone to use. Meanwhile what should I do?
Title: Re: I need a new car key. My local dealer can no longer supply. Now what?
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 09 July 2019, 13:58:37
Take it to some one who can? ::)

Kevin Wood isn't too far away and possibly has access to the Candi module for Vectra C stuff :y
Title: Re: I need a new car key. My local dealer can no longer supply. Now what?
Post by: TheBoy on 09 July 2019, 14:05:43
I think that DTM fella has our CANdi, from the time he had a Zaf-B.


But that's the easiest way - Tech2 + CANdi + Carpass + spare key with immob chip and fob.
Title: Re: I need a new car key. My local dealer can no longer supply. Now what?
Post by: STEMO on 09 July 2019, 14:57:15
I think that DTM fella has our CANdi, from the time he had a Zaf-B.


But that's the easiest way - Tech2 + CANdi + Carpass + spare key with immob chip and fob.
Yeah, dead easy.
Title: Re: I need a new car key. My local dealer can no longer supply. Now what?
Post by: Nick W on 09 July 2019, 16:40:16
Look in the phonebook under locksmiths.
Phone those that do cars, and ask them about your common car.
Drive it to the one that best fulfills the cost/convenience/benefit ratio.


Things not to ask/tell them:


Anything about Tech2s
That your local dealer isn't interested
That you'll supply used up parts sourced from Ebay
How many Omegas you've owned
Exactly how they'll do the job


I'm writing this at 16:30, and could have a working, programmed key by the end of the day
Title: Re: I need a new car key. My local dealer can no longer supply. Now what?
Post by: Andy B on 09 July 2019, 18:47:13
Look in the phonebook under locksmiths.
Phone those that do cars, and ask them about your common car.
Drive it to the one that best fulfills the cost/convenience/benefit ratio.


Things not to ask/tell them:


Anything about Tech2s
That your local dealer isn't interested
That you'll supply used up parts sourced from Ebay
How many Omegas you've owned
Exactly how they'll do the job


I'm writing this at 16:30, and could have a working, programmed key by the end of the day

 ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: I need a new car key. My local dealer can no longer supply. Now what?
Post by: dave the builder on 09 July 2019, 18:58:02
If your going to the expense of new key and programming by Vauxhall or locksmith ....
may as well wait till you loose the working key  ::)
which is the only time you will need a spare
so don't loose the key  :y
money saved, job done  ;D
you could have a blank key cut but not programmed cheaply for when you lock the key in the car
or just remember to take the key with you when you leave the car,put it in your pocket.
hang on a key rack at home
I've been doing this with great success ever since I learned to drive  ;)
Title: Re: I need a new car key. My local dealer can no longer supply. Now what?
Post by: STEMO on 09 July 2019, 19:07:45
If your going to the expense of new key and programming by Vauxhall or locksmith ....
may as well wait till you loose the working key  ::)
which is the only time you will need a spare
so don't loose the key  :y
money saved, job done  ;D
you could have a blank key cut but not programmed cheaply for when you lock the key in the car
or just remember to take the key with you when you leave the car,put it in your pocket.
hang on a key rack at home
I've been doing this with great success ever since I learned to drive  ;)
This is not good advice. If car thieves see a desirable car, such as a Vauxhall omega, outside, they will smash through your front door to get to the keys.
Title: Re: I need a new car key. My local dealer can no longer supply. Now what?
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 09 July 2019, 19:11:29
My neighbour had a mobile car key guy come to him to supply and code a new key for a Golf, and as I recall paid a reasonable price.  :y

https://www.google.com/search?rlz=1C1VFKB_enGB722GB722&ei=QtckXbD9Obu01fAPwZS9wAg&q=mobile+car+key+replacement+wiltshire&oq=mobile+car+key+replacement+wiltshire&gs_l=psy-ab.12..33i22i29i30.4703.9807..13955...0.0..0.327.3029.0j11j4j1......0....1..gws-wiz.......0i71j35i39j0i22i30j0.DpcHBrmMnwI

Title: Re: I need a new car key. My local dealer can no longer supply. Now what?
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 09 July 2019, 19:17:12
If your going to the expense of new key and programming by Vauxhall or locksmith ....
may as well wait till you loose the working key  ::)
which is the only time you will need a spare
so don't loose the key  :y
money saved, job done  ;D
you could have a blank key cut but not programmed cheaply for when you lock the key in the car
or just remember to take the key with you when you leave the car,put it in your pocket.
hang on a key rack at home
I've been doing this with great success ever since I learned to drive  ;)
This is not good advice. If car thieves see a desirable car, such as a Vauxhall omega, outside, they will smash through your front door to get to the keys.

They might do a 'Midsomer Murder' while they're at it!  ;D
Title: Re: I need a new car key. My local dealer can no longer supply. Now what?
Post by: STEMO on 09 July 2019, 19:17:52
If your going to the expense of new key and programming by Vauxhall or locksmith ....
may as well wait till you loose the working key  ::)
which is the only time you will need a spare
so don't loose the key  :y
money saved, job done  ;D
you could have a blank key cut but not programmed cheaply for when you lock the key in the car
or just remember to take the key with you when you leave the car,put it in your pocket.
hang on a key rack at home
I've been doing this with great success ever since I learned to drive  ;)
This is not good advice. If car thieves see a desirable car, such as a Vauxhall omega, outside, they will smash through your front door to get to the keys.

They might do a 'Midsomer Murder' while they're at it!  ;D
Yeah. Put us all out of our misery.  ;D
Title: Re: I need a new car key. My local dealer can no longer supply. Now what?
Post by: Shackeng on 09 July 2019, 19:25:26
I think that DTM fella has our CANdi, from the time he had a Zaf-B.


But that's the easiest way - Tech2 + CANdi + Carpass + spare key with immob chip and fob.
Yeah, dead easy.

 :-X
Title: Re: I need a new car key. My local dealer can no longer supply. Now what?
Post by: dave the builder on 09 July 2019, 19:30:22
If your going to the expense of new key and programming by Vauxhall or locksmith ....
may as well wait till you loose the working key  ::)
which is the only time you will need a spare
so don't loose the key  :y
money saved, job done  ;D
you could have a blank key cut but not programmed cheaply for when you lock the key in the car
or just remember to take the key with you when you leave the car,put it in your pocket.
hang on a key rack at home
I've been doing this with great success ever since I learned to drive  ;)
This is not good advice. If car thieves see a  desirable car, such as a Vauxhall omega, outside, they will smash through your front door to get to the keys.
they best be good at smashing reinforced front doors ,which will set off the alarm ,paging me ,all recorded in HD on cctv
I won't be impressed ,and I will use un- reasonable force  :-X to deter them from living doing it again
Title: Re: I need a new car key. My local dealer can no longer supply. Now what?
Post by: aaronjb on 10 July 2019, 08:21:56
This is not good advice. If car thieves see a desirable car, such as a Vauxhall omega, outside, they will smash through your front door to get to the keys.

We don't all live in Barnsley, you know. :P

I dunno .. I can't decide if I'd rather they take the keys without having to come and find me, or that I got to confront them before they got the keys. The latter (despite any Internet bravado) would probably end up with me being stabbed so .. they can have the keys!

It's rough around here, anyway (https://www.northamptonchron.co.uk/news/people/northampton-mcdonald-s-hires-afternoon-bouncers-in-face-of-pre-existing-anti-social-behaviour-in-kingsley-1-8983965)..
Title: Re: I need a new car key. My local dealer can no longer supply. Now what?
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 10 July 2019, 08:26:26
My neighbour had a mobile car key guy come to him to supply and code a new key for a Golf, and as I recall paid a reasonable price.  :y

https://www.google.com/search?rlz=1C1VFKB_enGB722GB722&ei=QtckXbD9Obu01fAPwZS9wAg&q=mobile+car+key+replacement+wiltshire&oq=mobile+car+key+replacement+wiltshire&gs_l=psy-ab.12..33i22i29i30.4703.9807..13955...0.0..0.327.3029.0j11j4j1......0....1..gws-wiz.......0i71j35i39j0i22i30j0.DpcHBrmMnwI

We just had a car stolen when a mobile car guy cloned the key.....and obviously one for himself to......
Title: Re: I need a new car key. My local dealer can no longer supply. Now what?
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 10 July 2019, 08:48:13
My neighbour had a mobile car key guy come to him to supply and code a new key for a Golf, and as I recall paid a reasonable price.  :y

https://www.google.com/search?rlz=1C1VFKB_enGB722GB722&ei=QtckXbD9Obu01fAPwZS9wAg&q=mobile+car+key+replacement+wiltshire&oq=mobile+car+key+replacement+wiltshire&gs_l=psy-ab.12..33i22i29i30.4703.9807..13955...0.0..0.327.3029.0j11j4j1......0....1..gws-wiz.......0i71j35i39j0i22i30j0.DpcHBrmMnwI

We just had a car stolen when a mobile car guy cloned the key.....and obviously one for himself to......

Well if you will use dodgy outfits!  ::)  :P  ;D

Besides Terry has an old Vectra....   :D
Title: Re: I need a new car key. My local dealer can no longer supply. Now what?
Post by: STEMO on 10 July 2019, 10:52:14
This is not good advice. If car thieves see a desirable car, such as a Vauxhall omega, outside, they will smash through your front door to get to the keys.

We don't all live in Barnsley, you know. :P

I dunno .. I can't decide if I'd rather they take the keys without having to come and find me, or that I got to confront them before they got the keys. The latter (despite any Internet bravado) would probably end up with me being stabbed so .. they can have the keys!

It's rough around here, anyway (https://www.northamptonchron.co.uk/news/people/northampton-mcdonald-s-hires-afternoon-bouncers-in-face-of-pre-existing-anti-social-behaviour-in-kingsley-1-8983965)..
I'll see that, and raise you this:

https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news/liverpool-news/suicidal-mcdonalds-robber-offered-hurt-16222711
Title: Re: I need a new car key. My local dealer can no longer supply. Now what?
Post by: STEMO on 10 July 2019, 10:53:05
And this:
https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news/liverpool-news/robber-terrorised-mcdonalds-staff-kitchen-15532526
Title: Re: I need a new car key. My local dealer can no longer supply. Now what?
Post by: STEMO on 10 July 2019, 10:53:45
And this:
https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news/liverpool-news/mcdonalds-drive-thru-customers-demanded-16441409

 ;D
Title: Re: I need a new car key. My local dealer can no longer supply. Now what?
Post by: ronnyd on 10 July 2019, 21:21:25
And this:
https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news/liverpool-news/mcdonalds-drive-thru-customers-demanded-16441409

 ;D
I tell ya Stemo, fast food is dangerous stuff. :D
Title: Re: I need a new car key. My local dealer can no longer supply. Now what?
Post by: TheBoy on 11 July 2019, 10:06:34
Look in the phonebook under locksmiths.
Phone those that do cars, and ask them about your common car.
Drive it to the one that best fulfills the cost/convenience/benefit ratio.


Things not to ask/tell them:


Anything about Tech2s
That your local dealer isn't interested
That you'll supply used up parts sourced from Ebay
How many Omegas you've owned
Exactly how they'll do the job


I'm writing this at 16:30, and could have a working, programmed key by the end of the day
Too friggin expensive, and the ones most do are simply key cloning, which *IS* problematic as the ECU soon thinks the key has suddenly gone out of (rolling code) range.
Title: Re: I need a new car key. My local dealer can no longer supply. Now what?
Post by: Migv6 le Frog Fan on 11 July 2019, 10:08:31
I have thought about buying a car from this ebay seller, who sells repo,s mostly without keys.
Whats the routine for acquiring akey in those circumstances ? Visit a main dealer with V5 and KY ?  :-\

https://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/baldrick333/m.html?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEFSXS%3AMESOI&_trksid=p2053788.m1543.l2654
Title: Re: I need a new car key. My local dealer can no longer supply. Now what?
Post by: STEMO on 11 July 2019, 10:39:59
Repo's? Most of those cars are way too old to be on any sort of finance deal and, I would have thought, not worth removing by bailiffs.
Title: Re: I need a new car key. My local dealer can no longer supply. Now what?
Post by: STEMO on 11 July 2019, 10:49:07
Repo's? Most of those cars are way too old to be on any sort of finance deal and, I would have thought, not worth removing by bailiffs.
Sorry, Albs, should have read the full ad first  :-[
Title: Re: I need a new car key. My local dealer can no longer supply. Now what?
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 11 July 2019, 13:18:26
I have thought about buying a car from this ebay seller, who sells repo,s mostly without keys.
Whats the routine for acquiring akey in those circumstances ? Visit a main dealer with V5 and KY ?  :-\

https://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/baldrick333/m.html?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEFSXS%3AMESOI&_trksid=p2053788.m1543.l2654

I bet the local locksmiths love these guys!  ;D

Question is though.  Why don't they get keys made before offering them for sale?  ???  :-\
Title: Re: I need a new car key. My local dealer can no longer supply. Now what?
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 11 July 2019, 13:33:04
Possibly a legal liability reason.

If someone buys a car, gets the key cut and then kills a bus stop full of kids, it's on the buyer. If they provide the keys, then the onus is on them as the seller.

Besides their role is recovery and disposal not selling cars for profit.  :y
Title: Re: I need a new car key. My local dealer can no longer supply. Now what?
Post by: STEMO on 11 July 2019, 14:42:07
Possibly a legal liability reason.

If someone buys a car, gets the key cut and then kills a bus stop full of kids, it's on the buyer. If they provide the keys, then the onus is on them as the seller.

Besides their role is recovery and disposal not selling cars for profit.  :y
The recovery agents are duty bound to get the best price for any assets seized, so as to return as much as possible to the client. I don't know which way that would go with the expense of having keys made up.
But these cars......if they have been seized from ordinary Joes, how come they are all in such an appalling state? Most of them look like they were seized from a scrap yard.
Title: Re: I need a new car key. My local dealer can no longer supply. Now what?
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 11 July 2019, 14:44:09
If you owned a Ssangyong Rodius, would you look after it?

Most finance repossessions are spiteful affairs from scummy people  ;)
Title: Re: I need a new car key. My local dealer can no longer supply. Now what?
Post by: Migv6 le Frog Fan on 11 July 2019, 15:00:24
Some of them sell for low enough prices to be worthwhile 2fix up and flog" projects, apart from the key issue. Hence my slight interest.  ;)
Only feasible way it seems, would be if local locksmith turns up same time as buyer and cuts / programmes key for car so it can be driven away.  :-\
Title: Re: I need a new car key. My local dealer can no longer supply. Now what?
Post by: STEMO on 11 July 2019, 15:16:49
Some of them sell for low enough prices to be worthwhile 2fix up and flog" projects, apart from the key issue. Hence my slight interest.  ;)
Only feasible way it seems, would be if local locksmith turns up same time as buyer and cuts / programmes key for car so it can be driven away.  :-\
Hmmm....you'd have to day insure it and make sure it had an MOT  :-\
I think you should possibly look for another get-poor-quick opportunity, Albs.  ;D
Title: Re: I need a new car key. My local dealer can no longer supply. Now what?
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 11 July 2019, 15:24:50
Some of them sell for low enough prices to be worthwhile 2fix up and flog" projects, apart from the key issue. Hence my slight interest.  ;)
Only feasible way it seems, would be if local locksmith turns up same time as buyer and cuts / programmes key for car so it can be driven away.  :-\
Hmmm....you'd have to day insure it and make sure it had an MOT  :-\
I think you should possibly look for another get-poor-quick opportunity, Albs.  ;D
I don't know, that one seems pretty effective  :D
Title: Re: I need a new car key. My local dealer can no longer supply. Now what?
Post by: Migv6 le Frog Fan on 11 July 2019, 17:37:02
Some of them sell for low enough prices to be worthwhile 2fix up and flog" projects, apart from the key issue. Hence my slight interest.  ;)
Only feasible way it seems, would be if local locksmith turns up same time as buyer and cuts / programmes key for car so it can be driven away.  :-\
Hmmm....you'd have to day insure it and make sure it had an MOT :-\
I think you should possibly look for another get-poor-quick opportunity, Albs.  ;D

You've been away from Liverpool too long.  ;D
Title: Re: I need a new car key. My local dealer can no longer supply. Now what?
Post by: STEMO on 11 July 2019, 19:49:41
Some of them sell for low enough prices to be worthwhile 2fix up and flog" projects, apart from the key issue. Hence my slight interest.  ;)
Only feasible way it seems, would be if local locksmith turns up same time as buyer and cuts / programmes key for car so it can be driven away.  :-\
Hmmm....you'd have to day insure it and make sure it had an MOT :-\
I think you should possibly look for another get-poor-quick opportunity, Albs.  ;D

You've been away from Liverpool too long.  ;D
Not really. It's cameras that will get you these days.
Title: Re: I need a new car key. My local dealer can no longer supply. Now what?
Post by: Migv6 le Frog Fan on 11 July 2019, 19:56:18
I know a series of country lanes between the location and mine.  :)
Title: Re: I need a new car key. My local dealer can no longer supply. Now what?
Post by: STEMO on 11 July 2019, 19:57:35
I know a series of country lanes between the location and mine.  :)
Stop being awkward, Twątty  ;D
Title: Re: I need a new car key. My local dealer can no longer supply. Now what?
Post by: Migv6 le Frog Fan on 11 July 2019, 19:59:11
Fail to prepare - prepare to be caught.  :P ;D
Title: Re: I need a new car key. My local dealer can no longer supply. Now what?
Post by: STEMO on 11 July 2019, 20:01:12
Fail to prepare - prepare to be caught.  :P ;D
Well, if you're gonna be a criminal, just change the fickin plates and be done with it.  ;D
Title: Re: I need a new car key. My local dealer can no longer supply. Now what?
Post by: Migv6 le Frog Fan on 11 July 2019, 20:03:12
That's always an option. An old biker mate of mine used to change them every time he stopped for petrol.  ;D
Title: Re: I need a new car key. My local dealer can no longer supply. Now what?
Post by: STEMO on 11 July 2019, 20:04:10
That's always an option. An old biker mate of mine used to change them every time he stopped for petrol.  ;D
Don't put the plates off your own car on, Murphy  ;D
Title: Re: I need a new car key. My local dealer can no longer supply. Now what?
Post by: Migv6 le Frog Fan on 11 July 2019, 20:20:20
No chance. I will copy the plates from yours.  :P ;D
Title: Re: I need a new car key. My local dealer can no longer supply. Now what?
Post by: aaronjb on 12 July 2019, 08:35:51
Not really. It's cameras that will get you these days.

Or the Wifi (https://gizmodo.com/automatic-wifi-login-helped-police-id-teens-who-vandali-1836249333).. ;D
Title: Re: I need a new car key. My local dealer can no longer supply. Now what?
Post by: STEMO on 12 July 2019, 10:36:00
Not really. It's cameras that will get you these days.

Or the Wifi (https://gizmodo.com/automatic-wifi-login-helped-police-id-teens-who-vandali-1836249333).. ;D
That ties in nicely with your post about IQ's.
Title: Re: I need a new car key. My local dealer can no longer supply. Now what?
Post by: andyc on 12 July 2019, 22:39:40
Terry, have you tried Drive @ Avon Street or Drive @ Weston Super Mare

Andy