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brake pads
« on: 09 February 2019, 19:57:33 »

hi guys iam looking at a set of brake pads for the old girl the listing says carlton and omega the  part no is 90541293 are these sutiable for mine  ;)
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Re: brake pads
« Reply #1 on: 09 February 2019, 20:02:32 »

Carlton and Omega rears are the same...

Carlton fronts are only good for early 2.0 8v Omega :y
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Re: brake pads
« Reply #2 on: 09 February 2019, 20:04:42 »

thank mate these are fronts so ill leave them  :y
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Re: brake pads
« Reply #3 on: 09 February 2019, 20:07:46 »

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/VAUXHALL-CARLTON-OMEGA-FRONT-BRAKE-PADS-GENUINE-VAUXHALL-90541293-/312061802470?_trksid=p2349526.m4383.l4275.c1
won't fit carlton (omega A)
will fit omega B (look like my omega 2.6 ones )
typical ebay poor listing
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Re: brake pads
« Reply #4 on: 09 February 2019, 20:10:51 »

VAUXHALL   9195077
VAUXHALL   9192124
VAUXHALL   90541293
VAUXHALL   90398116
OPEL   9192124
OPEL   1605932
OPEL   1605782
OPEL   1605033
OPEL   1605004
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Re: brake pads
« Reply #5 on: 09 February 2019, 20:38:13 »

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/VAUXHALL-CARLTON-OMEGA-FRONT-BRAKE-PADS-GENUINE-VAUXHALL-90541293-/312061802470?_trksid=p2349526.m4383.l4275.c1
won't fit carlton (omega A)
will fit omega B (look like my omega 2.6 ones )
typical ebay poor listing
thats the ones i was looking at ive jut orderd new fronts and rears from ebay
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Re: brake pads
« Reply #6 on: 10 February 2019, 07:39:17 »

I recently purchased front pads from UO and the inserts for the pad wear indicator were the wrong way around.They could not explain how this happened. Manufacturing fault?
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Re: brake pads
« Reply #7 on: 10 February 2019, 13:09:20 »

VAUXHALL   9195077
VAUXHALL   9192124
VAUXHALL   90541293
VAUXHALL   90398116
OPEL   9192124
OPEL   1605932
OPEL   1605782
OPEL   1605033
OPEL   1605004
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Re: brake pads
« Reply #8 on: 10 February 2019, 13:20:12 »

I recently purchased front pads from UO and the inserts for the pad wear indicator were the wrong way around.They could not explain how this happened. Manufacturing fault?
Brake wear indicators are a push fit in the anti rattle spring. You should be able to knock it out again with a pin pumch.

Was the box sealed? Quite likely supplied loose and someone has opened the box and pushed it in from the wrong side.
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Re: brake pads
« Reply #9 on: 11 February 2019, 00:17:57 »

I recently purchased front pads from UO and the inserts for the pad wear indicator were the wrong way around.They could not explain how this happened. Manufacturing fault?
Who are UO?

If the press-fit bronze(?) bushes for the wear indicator are installed the wrong way round in the pads, then I can only imagine that the pads were originally intended for some other vehicle that maybe has the same calipers but does not have wear indicators fitted.
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Re: brake pads
« Reply #10 on: 11 February 2019, 10:35:18 »

That's what I did knocked the insert out and turned it around.I am a bit fed up with this supplier. when I bought rear pads they were the wrong size. This time the box had been opened and they said that the wrong pads had been put in the box. All you need when the brakes are stripped down ready for new pads.
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Re: brake pads
« Reply #11 on: 11 February 2019, 14:08:03 »

I recently purchased front pads from UO and the inserts for the pad wear indicator were the wrong way around.They could not explain how this happened. Manufacturing fault?
Who are UO?

If the press-fit bronze(?) bushes for the wear indicator are installed the wrong way round in the pads, then I can only imagine that the pads were originally intended for some other vehicle that maybe has the same calipers but does not have wear indicators fitted.

Wear indicators are a separate thing from the pads .... they are not part of the pad.
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Re: brake pads
« Reply #12 on: 11 February 2019, 15:15:15 »

Wear indicators are a separate thing from the pads .... they are not part of the pad.
I didn't say the wear indicator was part of the pad?

The terminal pin of the wear indicator cable snap fits into the bore in the bush that's factory pressed into the pad backplate. Usually bronze (or is it brass) on genuine GM pads. The bush that also acts as the pivot for the spring.

If the bush is pressed in from the wrong side, as robson indicated above, then the wear indicator won't fit. It'll rattle about.

Robson asked if it was a manufacturing fault and I was commenting on that. More likely that the pads in the box were intended for some other vehicle that uses the same Lucas Girling caliper, but maybe has no wear indicator. So the parts actually in the box are incorrect for the indicated application as opposed to incorrectly manufactured.



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Re: brake pads
« Reply #13 on: 11 February 2019, 16:37:15 »

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I didn't say the wear indicator was part of the pad?

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Sorry ..... I thought that's what you were saying ....
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Re: brake pads
« Reply #14 on: 13 February 2019, 22:46:15 »



This seems like a suitable thread to join rather than starting a whole new one for a simple question

Can anyone tell me what's going on here? On the left is Brembo, on the right is Ferodo. Both listed as fitting Omega B(1994 onwards). I was hoping to use the Ferodo pads now and keep the Brembo ones until the Ferodos are worn out

Am I right that they can't both fit the same caliper? Those ears on the Ferodo pad don't seem compatible with the Brembo and vice versa

I am a good 100 miles away from the car and won't be getting to it until Sunday, so I thought I'd ask here in case it let me initiate swapping the pads if they're wrong :)
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Re: brake pads
« Reply #15 on: 13 February 2019, 23:00:00 »

The pads I have fitted to the front of my Omegas have all looked like the pads on the left (I have had three V6 petrol Omegas)

All the Omegas have the same front calipers (except for a few early 8 valve 2 litre petrol cars). I don't know what the pads for the 8 valve 2.0 look like :-\
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Re: brake pads
« Reply #16 on: 13 February 2019, 23:56:57 »

The set on the right is an analogue of GM 9192123 used with ATE(?) 286mm vented discs.
The set on the left is an analogue of GM 9192124 used with Lucas Girling calipers with 296mm vented discs.
So two different part numbers

Haynes says 286mm discs are used on 4 pots upto Model Year 1998.
All V6's are 296mm.
All models are 296mm from MY2008 onwards.
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Re: brake pads
« Reply #17 on: 14 February 2019, 07:54:52 »

Thanks guys! The car in question is an early ‘99 2.5 V6, so I guess that settles that :)
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Re: brake pads
« Reply #18 on: 14 February 2019, 10:08:15 »

One on right is for pre '98 2.0 ;)
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