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Re: If I decide to call myself Stephanie.....
« Reply #15 on: 21 March 2019, 07:04:28 »

Maybe be like Sam Smith ( singer).

Identify with neither male or female.

Wouldn’t  be so many first names available for parents to avoid ( facilitate?) confusion.
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Re: If I decide to call myself Stephanie.....
« Reply #16 on: 21 March 2019, 08:14:28 »

Maybe be like Sam Smith ( singer).

Identify with neither male or female.

Wouldn’t  be so many first names available for parents to avoid ( facilitate?) confusion.
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Re: If I decide to call myself Stephanie.....
« Reply #17 on: 21 March 2019, 11:25:42 »

A different perspective from the Daily Mail of course.  ::)

Although I generally take a live and let approach to this sort of thing, it's disturbing that a gender reassignment industry seems to be developing and is targeting young kids.  :-\

With the connivance and approval of the authorities as well!  >:(


It is actually strictly controlled by the medical profession, and in fact only a relatively small percentage of those identified as having Gender Dysphoria actually go on to undergo full reassignment. ;)
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Re: If I decide to call myself Stephanie.....
« Reply #18 on: 21 March 2019, 11:47:23 »

Imo, it is a decision which can only be taken once someone has reached full adulthood. Allowing young children to go down this path chills my blood tbh.
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Re: If I decide to call myself Stephanie.....
« Reply #19 on: 21 March 2019, 15:02:17 »

It is actually strictly controlled by the medical profession, and in fact only a relatively small percentage of those identified as having Gender Dysphoria actually go on to undergo full reassignment. ;)
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Re: If I decide to call myself Stephanie.....
« Reply #20 on: 21 March 2019, 15:37:40 »

You mean your uncle Bob is now your auntie Roberta.  :)
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Re: If I decide to call myself Stephanie.....
« Reply #21 on: 21 March 2019, 15:44:51 »

You mean your uncle Bob is now your auntie Roberta.  :)


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Re: If I decide to call myself Stephanie.....
« Reply #22 on: 21 March 2019, 16:05:28 »

Imo, it is a decision which can only be taken once someone has reached full adulthood. Allowing young children to go down this path chills my blood tbh.

It's hard to be that cut and dried about such an issue though.

If someone truly believes they are living in a body with the "wrong gender" then compelling them to go through their formative and teenage years with that feeling could do them permanent mental or emotional damage.

Studies have shown transgender teenagers are one of the highest risk sub-groups for suicide. It doesn't seem like waiting is doing that group all that much good...
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Re: If I decide to call myself Stephanie.....
« Reply #23 on: 21 March 2019, 16:21:40 »

Imo, it is a decision which can only be taken once someone has reached full adulthood. Allowing young children to go down this path chills my blood tbh.

It's hard to be that cut and dried about such an issue though.

If someone truly believes they are living in a body with the "wrong gender" then compelling them to go through their formative and teenage years with that feeling could do them permanent mental or emotional damage.

Studies have shown transgender teenagers are one of the highest risk sub-groups for suicide. It doesn't seem like waiting is doing that group all that much good...
Teenagers have always had one of the highest suicide rates anyways... Blaming it on parental gender reinforcement won't change that. But the child needs the maturity to understand why they feel the way that they do.

Abuse is probably the prevalent underlying cause of gender confusion.
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Re: If I decide to call myself Stephanie.....
« Reply #24 on: 21 March 2019, 16:28:56 »

I sometimes wish that god actually existed. Surely he'd rip it all up and start again? Or, perhaps, he'd think it wasn't worth the bother.

Am I in trouble for using the masculine gender for a non-existent deity?
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Re: If I decide to call myself Stephanie.....
« Reply #25 on: 21 March 2019, 16:47:17 »

I sometimes wish that god actually existed. Surely he'd rip it all up and start again? Or, perhaps, he'd think it wasn't worth the bother.

Am I in trouble for using the masculine gender for a non-existent deity?
It's imaginary, so all good ;)

Joking aside, I suspect he wishes that he hadn't spent Sunday in bed :D

That said, perhaps he spent day one in bed and though, "Shit, I only have six days to get my science project done..."  that would create some issues ::)
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Re: If I decide to call myself Stephanie.....
« Reply #26 on: 21 March 2019, 16:48:41 »

I sometimes wish that god actually existed. Surely he'd rip it all up and start again? Or, perhaps, he'd think it wasn't worth the bother.

Am I in trouble for using the masculine gender for a non-existent deity?


And on the eighth day, God realised he was drunk when he decided his creation was 'good' and dumped the whole lot at the back of the shed in a battered cardboard box. On the ninth day he started again, having learned from his mistakes.
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Re: If I decide to call myself Stephanie.....
« Reply #27 on: 21 March 2019, 16:57:52 »

.....you'd all better respect my decision, or I'll report you to the police.  ::)

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2019/mar/20/catholic-journalist-investigated-by-police-after-misgendering-trans-woman

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Re: If I decide to call myself Stephanie.....
« Reply #28 on: 21 March 2019, 17:00:39 »

Teenagers have always had one of the highest suicide rates anyways... Blaming it on parental gender reinforcement won't change that. But the child needs the maturity to understand why they feel the way that they do.

Abuse is probably the prevalent underlying cause of gender confusion.

I think you misunderstood me somewhat, yes teenagers have a high suicide rate, but transgender and non-binary teenagers significantly more so than their cis gender / binary peers.

Eg. an anonymised study by the American Society of Paediatrics:
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More than half of transgender male teens who participated in the survey reported attempting suicide in their lifetime, while 29.9 percent of transgender female teens said they attempted suicide. Among non-binary youth, 41.8 percent of respondents stated that they had attempted suicide at some point in their lives.

Doubtless you could dispute the tenacity of their suicide attempts, but arguing that "when you're older you'll know better or feel differently" which I'll wager is a common parental stock response, neatly tagged on to "its just a phase" is pretty lazy thinking and doesn't help the individuals in question.

Also, implicit in the argument that people should wait is the the idea that supporting them to live as the gender with which they identify is in some way harmful, either to them or to society, which I would dispute.
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