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[Kieran]

Interesting read on Piston heads. Makes be like my Senator even more.
https://www.pistonheads.com/regulars/ph-threads/seeing-double--readers-car-s-of-the-week/40871

[dave the builder]

Mr Marsh ,the man is a legend
he did own (and may still  ) the LC of top gear fame top gear vid clicky

[Lizzie Zoom]

That's good!

I wonder if he is a member of Autobahnstormers?

[Andy B]

That's good!

I wonder if he is a member of Autobahnstormers?

He was one of the original members. He did a piece years ago for a magazine  .... I have a copy of it somewhere.

[Raeturbo]

I loved my LPG Senator 3.0  24V with a Will Reeve chip done 260,000 miles but it rotted  away☹️😞

[Keith ABS]

 Ian still owns the said LC
Still in ABS but has not been active for a long time due to work and his Retro Rides involvment

[TheBoy]

Ian still owns the said LC
Still in ABS but has not been active for a long time due to work and his Retro Rides involvment

I know someone who had a "spare" LC engine until a few short years ago, and he sold it stupidly cheap to get it out of the way .  I think he still has a brand new crankshaft for one.

[Lizzie Zoom]

Ian still owns the said LC
Still in ABS but has not been active for a long time due to work and his Retro Rides involvment

I know someone who had a "spare" LC engine until a few short years ago, and he sold it stupidly cheap to get it out of the way .  I think he still has a brand new crankshaft for one.

That's strange.  Do not know in my ignorance if it has got anything to do with a LC engine, but:

In the latest Autobahnstormers mag there is an advert for a LS2, 6 litre V8 engine.  Came out of a Monero shortly after being fitted in it, that was then written off!

Price,£5,000 O.V.N.

For anyone interested there are contact numbers.

[dave the builder]

LC engine is 3.6 strait 6 Lizzie 
LS2 is a V8

[Lizzie Zoom]

LC engine is 3.6 strait 6 Lizzie
LS2 is a V8

Thanks Dave

I should have known that as I had a Senny, and thinking about I do not think you could fit a V8 in that??

[dave the builder]

LC engine is 3.6 strait 6 Lizzie
LS2 is a V8

Thanks Dave

I should have known that as I had a Senny, and thinking about I do not think you could fit a V8 in that??

you can fit a V8 in carltons and sennys ,people have many times 
and as Omega is a similar size and layout, you can fit a V8 in an omega too
there was one at the Brackley meet with an LS1 in 

[Raeturbo]

LC engine is 3.6 strait 6 Lizzie 
LS2 is a V8

aye plus the all important addition of the Garret T25 turbochargers,.... Lest we forget

[dave the builder]

LC engine is 3.6 strait 6 Lizzie 
LS2 is a V8

aye plus the all important addition of the Garret T25 turbochargers,.... Lest we forget

you forgot to mention the rust which Opel carried over to the Omega range 

[Lizzie Zoom]

LC engine is 3.6 strait 6 Lizzie
LS2 is a V8

Thanks Dave

I should have known that as I had a Senny, and thinking about I do not think you could fit a V8 in that??

you can fit a V8 in carltons and sennys ,people have many times 
and as Omega is a similar size and layout, you can fit a V8 in an omega too
there was one at the Brackley meet with an LS1 in 

But how could you ever work on the engine after doing that?

It is bad enough with a V6!

I have a photo of a prototype Omega V8 that they almost introduced, but what a squeeze!!

[Raeturbo]

Not forgetting the one off lotus senator created by one of the Autobahnstormer squad That’s the one I’d like and fit a couple of today’s trick turbos to it, blow the V8 into the weeds

[dave the builder]

But how could you ever work on the engine after doing that?

Just take at least half the engine out to get at stuff
like you have to to change the plugs on a V6 

[Lizzie Zoom]

But how could you ever work on the engine after doing that?

Just take at least half the engine out to get at stuff
like you have to to change the plugs on a V6 

How true is that last bit Dave

[dave the builder]

But how could you ever work on the engine after doing that?

Just take at least half the engine out to get at stuff
like you have to to change the plugs on a V6 

How true is that last bit Dave

DG will be along ,saying you don't need to remove anything and can reach the plugs to change em from the driver's seat 

[STEMO]

But how could you ever work on the engine after doing that?

Just take at least half the engine out to get at stuff
like you have to to change the plugs on a V6 

How true is that last bit Dave

DG will be along ,saying you don't need to remove anything and can reach the plugs to change em from the driver's seat 

10 minute job.

[dave the builder]

But how could you ever work on the engine after doing that?

Just take at least half the engine out to get at stuff
like you have to to change the plugs on a V6 

How true is that last bit Dave

DG will be along ,saying you don't need to remove anything and can reach the plugs to change em from the driver's seat 

10 minute job.

on your diesel astra maybe

[STEMO]

But how could you ever work on the engine after doing that?

Just take at least half the engine out to get at stuff
like you have to to change the plugs on a V6 

How true is that last bit Dave

DG will be along ,saying you don't need to remove anything and can reach the plugs to change em from the driver's seat 

10 minute job.

on your diesel astra maybe

Mine doesn't have spark plugs mate 

[dave the builder]

But how could you ever work on the engine after doing that?

Just take at least half the engine out to get at stuff
like you have to to change the plugs on a V6 

How true is that last bit Dave

DG will be along ,saying you don't need to remove anything and can reach the plugs to change em from the driver's seat 

10 minute job.

on your diesel astra maybe

Mine doesn't have spark plugs mate 

that's why it only takes you 10 minutes 

[Doctor Gollum]

LC engine is 3.6 strait 6 Lizzie
LS2 is a V8

Thanks Dave

I should have known that as I had a Senny, and thinking about I do not think you could fit a V8 in that??

you can fit a V8 in carltons and sennys ,people have many times 
and as Omega is a similar size and layout, you can fit a V8 in an omega too
there was one at the Brackley meet with an LS1 in 

But how could you ever work on the engine after doing that?

It is bad enough with a V6!

I have a photo of a prototype Omega V8 that they almost introduced, but what a squeeze!!

Bah, loads of room...

https://photos.app.goo.gl/D7Ne3EywMnSxcAVy5

[Lizzie Zoom]

LC engine is 3.6 strait 6 Lizzie
LS2 is a V8

Thanks Dave

I should have known that as I had a Senny, and thinking about I do not think you could fit a V8 in that??

you can fit a V8 in carltons and sennys ,people have many times 
and as Omega is a similar size and layout, you can fit a V8 in an omega too
there was one at the Brackley meet with an LS1 in 

But how could you ever work on the engine after doing that?

It is bad enough with a V6!

I have a photo of a prototype Omega V8 that they almost introduced, but what a squeeze!!

Bah, loads of room...

https://photos.app.goo.gl/D7Ne3EywMnSxcAVy5

Yep, that picture says everything!

[Doctor Gollum]

There was a hole cut in the bonnet when a supercharger was added, although removing the sound panelling and zone fine tuning might just have done the job* of clearing the throttle body

* The hump and vent fitted to cover the hole actually helps get some of the heat shifted, so all good

[Lizzie Zoom]

There was a hole cut in the bonnet when a supercharger was added, although removing the sound panelling and zone fine tuning might just have done the job* of clearing the throttle body

* The hump and vent fitted to cover the hole actually helps get some of the heat shifted, so all good

That engine bay is a beautiful work of art

[Kevin Wood]

There was a hole cut in the bonnet when a supercharger was added, although removing the sound panelling and zone fine tuning might just have done the job* of clearing the throttle body

* The hump and vent fitted to cover the hole actually helps get some of the heat shifted, so all good

That engine bay is a beautiful work of art

IIRC the seats needed cleaning, though. Well, they did after he let Gixer drive.

[STEMO]

There was a hole cut in the bonnet when a supercharger was added, although removing the sound panelling and zone fine tuning might just have done the job* of clearing the throttle body

* The hump and vent fitted to cover the hole actually helps get some of the heat shifted, so all good

That engine bay is a beautiful work of art

IIRC the seats needed cleaning, though. Well, they did after he let Gixer drive.

I miss my little chats with Chris 

[relluf]

There was a hole cut in the bonnet when a supercharger was added, although removing the sound panelling and zone fine tuning might just have done the job* of clearing the throttle body

* The hump and vent fitted to cover the hole actually helps get some of the heat shifted, so all good

That engine bay is a beautiful work of art

IIRC the seats needed cleaning, though. Well, they did after he let Gixer drive.

I miss my little chats with Chris 

I miss your "little chats" as well, they used to amuse me no end😊  and I would tune in most nights to see what was being.......discussed

[TheBoy]

there was one at the Brackley meet with an LS1 in 

And another about 3m away, albeit it with no steering currently.

[TheBoy]

But how could you ever work on the engine after doing that?

Just take at least half the engine out to get at stuff
like you have to to change the plugs on a V6 

How true is that last bit Dave

DG will be along ,saying you don't need to remove anything and can reach the plugs to change em from the driver's seat 

TBE is about 20mins to change the plugs, and that needs the bloody LPG injectors moved as well.

[Doctor Gollum]

But how could you ever work on the engine after doing that?

Just take at least half the engine out to get at stuff
like you have to to change the plugs on a V6 

How true is that last bit Dave

DG will be along ,saying you don't need to remove anything and can reach the plugs to change em from the driver's seat 

TBE is about 20mins to change the plugs, and that needs the bloody LPG injectors moved as well.

I'd be surprised if it takes Rob significantly longer to change all 8 

[TheBoy]

But how could you ever work on the engine after doing that?

Just take at least half the engine out to get at stuff
like you have to to change the plugs on a V6 

How true is that last bit Dave

DG will be along ,saying you don't need to remove anything and can reach the plugs to change em from the driver's seat 

TBE is about 20mins to change the plugs, and that needs the bloody LPG injectors moved as well.

I'd be surprised if it takes Rob significantly longer to change all 8 

Suspect not, as most of the time on TBE is with moving the LPG, and the physical amount of time to unscrew, unbox new, screw in new, torque new...

[Doctor Gollum]

No coil packs to unbolt either

[Shackeng]

But how could you ever work on the engine after doing that?

Just take at least half the engine out to get at stuff
like you have to to change the plugs on a V6 

How true is that last bit Dave

DG will be along ,saying you don't need to remove anything and can reach the plugs to change em from the driver's seat 

TBE is about 20mins to change the plugs, and that needs the bloody LPG injectors moved as well.

That's unusual, most of your jobs which "only" take *.* minutes, involve a stop for tea as well.