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Title: Tyres Rotation - What would you do?
Post by: tunnie on 30 December 2018, 21:53:51
3.2 - Rear tyres down to near legal limit, had them checked at Costco wearing evenly but limited life left. Maybe a 1mm or so off the wear guide. MOT is in March.

Currently have Kumho KU39's all around, which I love, however difficult to source unless I buy them and pay a garage to fit. Making them a bit pricey, for the tyre. The replacements get poor reviews, in both fuel use, grip. Difference to premium PS4's is minimal.

The fronts have a bit of meat left on them, I am considering putting those on the rear to shred them down. 

That would leave me with 4 new tyres to get, which is a bit pricey.  :(

Option 1) Leave as is, get rears down and just replace those come MOT time, probably with PS4's. With KU39's on the front.
Option 2) Put fronts on rear, probably have enough meat for MOT, but fronts will be suspect.

Thinking option 1, as new rubber should go on the rear, then replacing the fronts for next winter. Downside would be the mix, PS4's on rear to KU39 on front :-\

Thoughts?
Title: Re: Tyres Rotation - What would you do?
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 30 December 2018, 22:01:53
If front edge wear is ok, swap them over.

Budget for a set of winters ready for next year ;)
Title: Re: Tyres Rotation - What would you do?
Post by: Andy B on 30 December 2018, 22:02:27
.....
That would leave me with 4 new tyres to get, which is a bit pricey.  :( ....

Cheap at half the price  ;). Two for the the front of my R Class just set me back £400  :(

Costco are only prepared to sell me four because the car is permanent 4x4 ..... I'm not prepared to buy 4 in one go.
Title: Re: Tyres Rotation - What would you do?
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 30 December 2018, 22:07:04
https://www.camskill.co.uk/m97b0s639p142719/Avon_Tyres_Winter_Snow_Car_Avon_WV7_Snow_-_235_45_R17_97V_XL_TL_Fuel_Eff_%3A_E_Wet_Grip%3A_B_NoiseClass%3A_2_Noise%3A_70dB ;)
Title: Re: Tyres Rotation - What would you do?
Post by: tunnie on 30 December 2018, 22:08:22
Good thing about Omega, 4x PS4's or Goodyear ASM 3's about £400.   :)

Just unsure about the mix front to rears.  ???
Title: Re: Tyres Rotation - What would you do?
Post by: tunnie on 30 December 2018, 22:09:47
Don't want winters, have set of 4x CD alloys with Dunlop Winter Sport 3D's if we get it seriously bad. Even then I just work from home, so don't need them really.
Title: Re: Tyres Rotation - What would you do?
Post by: Nick W on 30 December 2018, 22:44:37
My thought?


Just replace the ones that need it.
If you can afford all four, then get that many.


It isn't rocket science, or a critical motorsport application where even the F1 test driver fantasy might be worth something.
Title: Re: Tyres Rotation - What would you do?
Post by: tunnie on 30 December 2018, 22:48:35
My thought?


Just replace the ones that need it.
If you can afford all four, then get that many.


It isn't rocket science, or a critical motorsport application where even the F1 test driver fantasy might be worth something.

Cheers. That means I'll probably stick PS4's on the rear, end of Feb for the MOT.
Title: Re: Tyres Rotation - What would you do?
Post by: VXL V6 on 30 December 2018, 22:55:06
PS4's are a great tyre in my opinion and have just had two fitted on the rear of the project for £104 a corner, however, the daily runs on Uniroyal Rainsport III's which are £70 a corner and have worked well in all conditions.

Title: Re: Tyres Rotation - What would you do?
Post by: tunnie on 30 December 2018, 22:57:08
PS4's are a great tyre in my opinion and have just had two fitted on the rear of the project for £104 a corner, however, the daily runs on Uniroyal Rainsport III's which are £70 a corner and have worked well in all conditions.

Useful thanks, my 3.2 is just my commuter so will look at RainSport  :y
Title: Re: Tyres Rotation - What would you do?
Post by: DrAndyB on 31 December 2018, 10:31:13
Got Rainsport 3's on my bus all round (http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/index.php?topic=143361.0 (http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/index.php?topic=143361.0)

No complaints with them  :y
Title: Re: Tyres Rotation - What would you do?
Post by: Kevin Wood on 31 December 2018, 19:58:03
I always fit new tyres to the front, because the Omega tramlines less with newish rubber on the front, and worn rubber on the rear doesn't seem to make much odds.
This is the opposite of the "official" advice, of course. ::)
Title: Re: Tyres Rotation - What would you do?
Post by: TheBoy on 31 December 2018, 21:03:22
The advice is always to put the grippiest tyre on the rear, as for most, understeer is far easier to get back into shape than chronic oversteer.

Hindsight is wonderful, so you probably wanted to rotate a while ago.  I'd still do so, putting to one side the money you were going to spend now, so its slightly less painful when you have to buy a set of 4.
Title: Re: Tyres Rotation - What would you do?
Post by: tunnie on 01 January 2019, 15:41:35
Thanks all, swapped them today, fronts had less meat than I thought. MOT end of March, think I'm looking at 4 new boots.

Now, raising question, do I refresh the suspension. Front inside looks a little more worn, so starting to suggest wishbone bushes going. But that opens a can of worms.... (and another thread)

Thoughts on tyre wear? Last Geo'd in 2012...

Front wear

(https://i.imgur.com/fI0U9B9.jpg)

Front thread

(https://i.imgur.com/qrkK1pT.jpg)

Rear wear

(https://i.imgur.com/qrkK1pT.jpg)

Rear thread

(https://i.imgur.com/usdbqgo.jpg)
Title: Re: Tyres Rotation - What would you do?
Post by: Migv6 le Frog Fan on 01 January 2019, 16:53:00
Years of life left in them.  :y :)
Title: Re: Tyres Rotation - What would you do?
Post by: STEMO on 01 January 2019, 18:56:50
Years of life left in them.  :y :)
They look better than the part worns you buy  ;D
Title: Re: Tyres Rotation - What would you do?
Post by: Shackeng on 01 January 2019, 19:21:15
The advice is always to put the grippiest tyre on the rear, as for most, understeer is far easier to get back into shape than chronic oversteer.

Hindsight is wonderful, so you probably wanted to rotate a while ago.  I'd still do so, putting to one side the money you were going to spend now, so its slightly less painful when you have to buy a set of 4.

Perhaps, and probably at higher speeds, but IME I'd rather lose the back end than the front and have the rubber on the front to steer into the slide.:y
Title: Re: Tyres Rotation - What would you do?
Post by: Migv6 le Frog Fan on 02 January 2019, 00:03:26
Years of life left in them.  :y :)
They look better than the part worns you buy  ;D

Your not wrong. Although  I recently had four brand new Accelleras fitted to the Omega. Also picked up a brand new pair of Acellerra Alphas 205/6015 for the rear of the 190 for £60.  :)