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[BazaJT]

Woman who lives opposite me has an 8yr old Audi TT which at the beginning of the week was hit by an errant Suzuki driver whilst it was parked at the roadside.The Audi took the hit on the rear o/s bumper,the quarter panel.drivers door[oddly missing the door mirror]and front wing.Both o/s alloys were gouged and it was hit hard enough to shove it into the kerb damaging both n/s alloys.It also looks like the rear axle/suspension is bent.Anyway the Audi's owner has been to pick up a courtesy/rental car while insurance is sorted out,she was told they'd give her a 3 series BMW but when she went to fetch it was told she couldn't have that as it had been returned with various faults and needed new tyres too .However they said they'd let her have a Mercedes instead-which they have-and now she's running about in an 18 plate Mercedes S class 350d

[Andy B]

....-and now she's running about in an 18 plate Mercedes S class 350d

A near neighbour has one. They were broken into the other week end & the suggestion was that Johnny Toerag was after the car ..... 

[STEMO]

....-and now she's running about in an 18 plate Mercedes S class 350d

A near neighbour has one. They were broken into the other week end & the suggestion was that Johnny Toerag was after the car ..... 

Well...if they know the name of the fella who broke in, why hasn't he been arrested?

[Sir Tigger KC]

....-and now she's running about in an 18 plate Mercedes S class 350d

A near neighbour has one. They were broken into the other week end & the suggestion was that Johnny Toerag was after the car ..... 

Well...if they know the name of the fella who broke in, why hasn't he been arrested?

C'mon wake up Uncle STEMO, everyone knows that the police don't bother investigating burglaries anymore!   

Johnny Toerag is as safe as houses!                  Oh.... 

[johnnydog]

Woman who lives opposite me has an 8yr old Audi TT. However they said they'd let her have a Mercedes instead-which they have-and now she's running about in an 18 plate Mercedes S class 350d

When a kind sole ran into the side of my wife's Honda on a roundabout (he entered from a slip road without giving way), her insurance company started getting arsey. Her renewal was due so they loaded her renewal premium as they hadn't as then been paid out by the third parties insurance, although they had accepted responsibility. They also knocked her full NCB down, saying any excess premium for the renewal would be refunded at next renewal, which was no good if she didn't want to renew with them. They also wanted her to go to one of their designated repair shops, but I wanted it to go to one that work send company vehicles to and always did a superb job.
As a result, we cancelled the claim with the insurance and the renewal then went back to the original figure, but the accident was then dealt with by an accident management company, who got the job done very quickly, but provided her with a courtesy car - a new Range Rover Evoque! The repair took three weeks (and was done go a very high standard, in my opinion, especially for a  95k / 6 year old vehicle).
There was obviously a subsequent dispute with the third parties insurance about the footing the bill for the repair plus the rental car cost, and my wife ended up being asked to go to County Court to justify why she had a need for such a courtesy car. She declined stating they had provided it, and it turned out that the management company were asking £350 day    vehicle hire costs alone from the third parties insurance!
It was obviously resolved one way or another without my wife's involvement, but it shows why management companies are a joke and spank the arse out of claims, with fancy courtesy cars as well, both of which results in enivitably higher premiums for you and me.
Plus she keeps going now how she would like a Range Rover Evoque ....... 

[TheBoy]

and now she's running about in an 18 plate Mercedes S class 350d

Poor cow...    ...but because of an outdated 3 pointy thing on the bonnet, the uninformed amongst us think its somehow special.  Currently, have 2 S class tractors in the immediate family...    ...or parts bin car as we call them.


And we have a TT, which even given my disregard of Audis and hairdressers, I would concede is a far, far nicer drive than the shitbox, gutless, whallowy, dead Merc.

[BazaJT]

Never owned a Mercedes so can't comment on them per se but that S class is one imposing machine for size!For sheer looks alone I'd take one over the modern XJ every time,but I'm no fan of the modern Jags or that many other modern cars for that matter.

[TheBoy]

Never owned a Mercedes so can't comment on them per se but that S class is one imposing machine for size!For sheer looks alone I'd take one over the modern XJ every time,but I'm no fan of the modern Jags or that many other modern cars for that matter.

Any of those limo class cars are bloody long, and most (including the XJ and the S Class) have LWB versions.

The arse of the current XJ is pig ugly.  I mean the back of the S Class (and thus E class as well) is pretty bad, but not in the same league of ugliness as the XJ

Neither are real drivers cars, but the Merc is worse in this respect.  Some say the Merc is a nicer place to be as a passenger, but I can't say any of the times I've been in the back of an S Class was it any nicer than the back of an XJ...  ...but not done a decent journey in the back of an XJ.


I know which I'd buy. And did.


But we have enough freedom to chose whichever cars we want, so each to their own.  Some people, for crying out loud, think the Focus was a good car.  Not tried the brand spankers new model, but all the others over the last 20yrs have been shite.

[BazaJT]

Yes I've seen XJ L and it seemed to occupy about one and a half car parking spaces on length alone Rather put off modern Jags[XF onwards]because of their-to me-overly gimmicky interiors-pop up rotary gear selector self opening/closing air vents etc-but at least their screen things are better integrated into the fascia better than BMW,Mercedes,Ford and so on where they look like some king of chav add on!

[TheBoy]

Yes I've seen XJ L and it seemed to occupy about one and a half car parking spaces on length alone Rather put off modern Jags[XF onwards]because of their-to me-overly gimmicky interiors-pop up rotary gear selector self opening/closing air vents etc-but at least their screen things are better integrated into the fascia better than BMW,Mercedes,Ford and so on where they look like some king of chav add on!

That is really annoying, having to wait for that to come up.  You get into habit of starting up, then putting belt on, then selecting gear.

[2boxerdogs]

Had 2 Mercedes still got one at present ,both have been comfortable & totally reliable will definitely get another one but will go for an SL 500 retirement gift to myself.

[ronnyd]

Woman who lives opposite me has an 8yr old Audi TT. However they said they'd let her have a Mercedes instead-which they have-and now she's running about in an 18 plate Mercedes S class 350d

When a kind sole ran into the side of my wife's Honda on a roundabout (he entered from a slip road without giving way), her insurance company started getting arsey. Her renewal was due so they loaded her renewal premium as they hadn't as then been paid out by the third parties insurance, although they had accepted responsibility. They also knocked her full NCB down, saying any excess premium for the renewal would be refunded at next renewal, which was no good if she didn't want to renew with them. They also wanted her to go to one of their designated repair shops, but I wanted it to go to one that work send company vehicles to and always did a superb job.
As a result, we cancelled the claim with the insurance and the renewal then went back to the original figure, but the accident was then dealt with by an accident management company, who got the job done very quickly, but provided her with a courtesy car - a new Range Rover Evoque! The repair took three weeks (and was done go a very high standard, in my opinion, especially for a  95k / 6 year old vehicle).
There was obviously a subsequent dispute with the third parties insurance about the footing the bill for the repair plus the rental car cost, and my wife ended up being asked to go to County Court to justify why she had a need for such a courtesy car. She declined stating they had provided it, and it turned out that the management company were asking £350 day    vehicle hire costs alone from the third parties insurance!
It was obviously resolved one way or another without my wife's involvement, but it shows why management companies are a joke and spank the arse out of claims, with fancy courtesy cars as well, both of which results in enivitably higher premiums for you and me.
Plus she keeps going now how she would like a Range Rover Evoque ....... 

Quindell by any chance?

[Kevin Wood]

Yes I've seen XJ L and it seemed to occupy about one and a half car parking spaces on length alone Rather put off modern Jags[XF onwards]because of their-to me-overly gimmicky interiors-pop up rotary gear selector self opening/closing air vents etc-but at least their screen things are better integrated into the fascia better than BMW,Mercedes,Ford and so on where they look like some king of chav add on!

On the other hand, at least they appear to have ditched the awful "Hyacinth Bucket" mock tudor Rover 75 look of the S type.

[2boxerdogs]

Only 2 Jags I would ever like to own they are of course the most beautiful car ever made in my opinion the E type the other a 3.4 Jaguar like inspector Morse drove the modern ones do not appeal to me at all.

[Andy B]

Only 2 Jags I would ever like to own they are of course the most beautiful car ever made in my opinion the E type the other a 3.4 Jaguar like inspector Morse drove the modern ones do not appeal to me at all.

MKX/420G for me ..... a beautiful car & huge in its day

[TheBoy]

Yes I've seen XJ L and it seemed to occupy about one and a half car parking spaces on length alone Rather put off modern Jags[XF onwards]because of their-to me-overly gimmicky interiors-pop up rotary gear selector self opening/closing air vents etc-but at least their screen things are better integrated into the fascia better than BMW,Mercedes,Ford and so on where they look like some king of chav add on!

On the other hand, at least they appear to have ditched the awful "Hyacinth Bucket" mock tudor Rover 75 look of the S type.

And the smell of wee from the previous XJs over the last 40yrs.

[Kevin Wood]

Yes I've seen XJ L and it seemed to occupy about one and a half car parking spaces on length alone Rather put off modern Jags[XF onwards]because of their-to me-overly gimmicky interiors-pop up rotary gear selector self opening/closing air vents etc-but at least their screen things are better integrated into the fascia better than BMW,Mercedes,Ford and so on where they look like some king of chav add on!

On the other hand, at least they appear to have ditched the awful "Hyacinth Bucket" mock tudor Rover 75 look of the S type.

And the smell of wee from the previous XJs over the last 40yrs.

Yes, you can sometimes detect it although it's normally masked by the smell of stale cigar smoke, brandy and sheepskin jackets.

[henryd]

Yes I've seen XJ L and it seemed to occupy about one and a half car parking spaces on length alone Rather put off modern Jags[XF onwards]because of their-to me-overly gimmicky interiors-pop up rotary gear selector self opening/closing air vents etc-but at least their screen things are better integrated into the fascia better than BMW,Mercedes,Ford and so on where they look like some king of chav add on!

On the other hand, at least they appear to have ditched the awful "Hyacinth Bucket" mock tudor Rover 75 look of the S type.

And the smell of wee from the previous XJs over the last 40yrs.

Stale piss aside,the X350 is one of the best looking Jags imo

[Nick W]

Stale piss aside,the X350 is one of the best looking Jags imo

It's a poor pastiche of the trendsetting series1 XJ6 from 30 years earlier, a sure sign of a company that had lost its nerve.

[Kevin Wood]

Stale piss aside,the X350 is one of the best looking Jags imo

It's a poor pastiche of the trendsetting series1 XJ6 from 30 years earlier, a sure sign of a company that had lost its nerve.

A very nice drive, though - in 4.2 Supercharged form, at any rate.

[2boxerdogs]

Only 2 Jags I would ever like to own they are of course the most beautiful car ever made in my opinion the E type the other a 3.4 Jaguar like inspector Morse drove the modern ones do not appeal to me at all.

MKX/420G for me ..... a beautiful car & huge in its day

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My first boss had one in metallic gold must have been around 1969/70 I thought it was fantastic at the time still remember the reg 205 HLR.

[BazaJT]

Bloke who used to live round the corner from us when I was younger had a gold 420G and a gold Daytona I always liked the MkX/420G,it was at the time the largest monocoque car made in Britain and with a slightly altered floorpan/chassis formed the basis of the Daimler 420 models.X350 style XJ is the latest Jag I'd have-although a proper series3 would be preferable

[Andy B]

....
 the basis of the Daimler 420 models. ....

My Dad would sometimes take me back to school after dinner in a DS 420 limo 

[Andy B]

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It's a poor pastiche of the trendsetting series1 XJ6 from 30 years earlier,  ......

Seeing an original Series 1 XJ makes you realise how bloated the latest XJ has become

[henryd]

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It's a poor pastiche of the trendsetting series1 XJ6 from 30 years earlier,  ......

Seeing an original Series 1 XJ makes you realise how bloated the latest Tata has become

lol fixed

[Nick W]

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It's a poor pastiche of the trendsetting series1 XJ6 from 30 years earlier,  ......

Seeing an original Series 1 XJ makes you realise how bloated the latest XJ has become

All modern cars are bloated compared to their predecessors, compare a mk1 Golf to the current one which is still only an occasional 5 seater despite being much bigger and heavier. I think the current XJ  is a real looker, but Jaguar should have made a similar leap with the XJ40 TWO generations ago.

[2boxerdogs]

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It's a poor pastiche of the trendsetting series1 XJ6 from 30 years earlier,  ......

Seeing an original Series 1 XJ makes you realise how bloated the latest XJ has become

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That is exactly my feelings about the modern Jags, far too bulky in styling they have lost the sleek  & purposeful look they were famous for.

[aaronjb]

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It's a poor pastiche of the trendsetting series1 XJ6 from 30 years earlier,  ......

Seeing an original Series 1 XJ makes you realise how bloated the latest XJ has become

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That is exactly my feelings about the modern Jags, far too bulky in styling they have lost the sleek  & purposeful look they were famous for.

Define "modern"?



Very sleek 

[2boxerdogs]

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It's a poor pastiche of the trendsetting series1 XJ6 from 30 years earlier,  ......

Seeing an original Series 1 XJ makes you realise how bloated the latest XJ has become

. 



That is exactly my feelings about the modern Jags, far too bulky in styling they have lost the sleek  & purposeful look they were famous for.

Define "modern"?



Very sleek 

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Anything after about 1965 that do you.

[TheBoy]

Stale piss aside,the X350 is one of the best looking Jags imo

It's a poor pastiche of the trendsetting series1 XJ6 from 30 years earlier, a sure sign of a company that had lost its nerve.

A very nice drive, though - in 4.2 Supercharged form, at any rate.

Pretty certain the pre X351 XJs only got the 2.7 tractor lump, which is smooth, economical and powerful....   ...just not a patch on the 3.0 tractor. Something Opti has to consider when choosing a new Indian tractor.

For Mr Wood, I'm pretty certain the pre X351 didn't get the 5.0 SC lump.  That in itself makes the X351 worthy of consideration...

[TheBoy]

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It's a poor pastiche of the trendsetting series1 XJ6 from 30 years earlier,  ......

Seeing an original Series 1 XJ makes you realise how bloated the latest XJ has become

The black C pillars on the X351 are supposed to make it look smaller.  Obviously my black one, it makes SFA difference



All cars are bloated now. Airbags in every orifice, the XJ has airbags under the bonnet, and extra strengthening in the safety cell. It all takes space

[tunnie]

I have to say, I was a bit disappointed by XJ interior, not as spacious as I thought it would be.

Did not quite live up to the photos.

[BazaJT]

Yes X350 got the 2.7L diesel and I believe the biggest petrol was the 4.2L in either n/a or supercharged flavours.Jags have not really been that roomy inside hence the need to make the lwb versions of the XJ to give better legroom.

[Andy B]

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 compare a mk1 Golf to the current one which is still only an occasional 5 seater despite being much bigger and heavier.  .....

I saw a Grand Tour when Cptn Slow was in a Go-Faster VW Up ..... it was 200kg heavier than an original Golf .... which isn't dissimilar in weight form my Smart Roadster

[TheBoy]

Yes X350 got the 2.7L diesel and I believe the biggest petrol was the 4.2L in either n/a or supercharged flavours.Jags have not really been that roomy inside hence the need to make the lwb versions of the XJ to give better legroom.

All the limo saloons, xj, s class, 7 series etc all come in LWB options, to cater for rear seat adults.  I believe in places like the states, these are the most common option, with the Europeans tending to have the largest share of SWB versions.

[BazaJT]

Us Europeans probably go for the SWB versions because[as you've found out with your SWB]our car parks simply aren't made for the longer ones.

[TheBoy]

Us Europeans probably go for the SWB versions because[as you've found out with your SWB]our car parks simply aren't made for the longer ones.

There is a carpark I regularly use in Walsall where my rear bumper is within a Rizla of the wall, but my front wheels are still not within the parking space.