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[BazaJT]

Got a leaflet through the letterbox from a frozen food store advertising a lot of their offers among which was packs of meat free chicken pieces It must be a very strange breed of chicken not to have any meat on it

[Sir Tigger KC]

They have to find something to do with all that waste plastic. 

[Diamond Black Geezer]

I don't get why vegans/veggos need 'meat flavoured sausages' etc... if meat is that repugnant to you, why do you then want to replicate its flavour/texture. ??

[Varche]

Probably due to not wanting the death of an animal but replicating what we all enjoy. The flavour and texture of meat. I have always said that anyone wanting to eat meat ought to take a life at least once. Poultry or a pig. It isn't that easy. Most people don't identify meat with an actual animal. It is just something you buy from a supermarket in a packet.

Tomas Schaffernaker the weather man was 35 before he found out that Lamb and Sheep were the same animal.

[Doctor Gollum]

Probably due to not wanting the death of an animal but replicating what we all enjoy. The flavour and texture of meat. I have always said that anyone wanting to eat meat ought to take a life at least once. Poultry or a pig. It isn't that easy. Most people don't identify meat with an actual animal. It is just something you buy from a supermarket in a packet.

Tomas Schaffernaker the weather man was 35 before he found out that Lamb and Sheep were the same animal.

I find that hard to believe...

[Varche]

Which bit?

[Doctor Gollum]

Mary had a little lamb...

You would have to be a complete moron to not be aware of that.

[Varche]

He was on would I lie to you. Might still be available on iplayer.

It is stuff like that that make you realise the huge gaps in peoples basic knowledge. Hats off to the man though for admitting it on TV.

[Andy B]

He was on would I lie to you. Might still be available on iplayer.

It is stuff like that that make you realise the huge gaps in peoples basic knowledge. Hats off to the man though for admitting it on TV.

I saw that too. 

[Andy B]

https://youtu.be/fODSl7NEsSk 

[Lizzie Zoom]

Remember that spoof April Fool's Day BBC Panarama programme in the late 1950's that featured spaghetti growing on trees!! Many believed it, but I can just remember my parents falling about with laughter over it

People, quite naturally, can be ignorant if they know no different

Before TV, and going back to children who had no access to the countryside, many a child never knew where any meat, eggs, or milk came from. They just eat the stuff, liked it, and were only too thankful to have it as food

[Varche]

Lizzie, do a poll now of children. I think we would be surprised at where they think meat and milk comes from ( other than supermarkets of course).

[Doctor Gollum]

https://youtu.be/fODSl7NEsSk 

[Andy B]

Lizzie, do a poll now of children. I think we would be surprised at where they think meat and milk comes from ( other than supermarkets of course).

My 'little girl' is now 30 but when she was about 4 or 5 she made the connection with the little frolicking lambs in the fields with what we'd just had for Sunday Dinner ..... 

[biggriffin]

Probably due to not wanting the death of an animal but replicating what we all enjoy. The flavour and texture of meat. I have always said that anyone wanting to eat meat ought to take a life at least once. Poultry or a pig. It isn't that easy. Most people don't identify meat with an actual animal. It is just something you buy from a supermarket in a packet.

Tomas Schaffernaker the weather man was 35 before he found out that Lamb and Sheep were the same animal.

Thought lamb came from Tesco's, and eggs came in boxes.

[Lizzie Zoom]

Lizzie, do a poll now of children. I think we would be surprised at where they think meat and milk comes from ( other than supermarkets of course).

Yes, the ignorance is still out there, but not because the info is not available to them on tv, on the Internet and indeed everywhere. But now in 2019, unlike the 1930's (which my Eastend mum used to refer to on this type of subject) it is probably due to many parents still being reluctant to inform their little darlings about one of the facts of life; us humans eat living things, like those cute little lambs!!

As Andy touches on there are young children who understand the truth, but I must say I would have been that little girl in 1958 who would not have known that grissly fact. I was a very a emotional kid, and still am as an adult, who would have cried her eyes out if I was told things like that. In fact it was in about 1960 when I first saw on TV a lion killing some young, helpless, and cute animal. My mum took ages to calm me down and, with much love, explain that was nature; it was the way of life

[Doctor Gollum]

But lions are just as cute and fluffy

[Lizzie Zoom]

But lions are just as cute and fluffy

Indeed they are, and I love them !

[Migv6 le Frog Fan]

My daughter was taught where meat comes from at school when she was seven years old. That was thirty years ago and she has been a vegetarian ever since. 

[Lizzie Zoom]

My daughter was taught where meat comes from at school when she was seven years old. That was thirty years ago and she has been a vegetarian ever since. 

That is applying to a growing band of adults, as well as children, it seems as the "scares" of all types about meat hits home!

[Doctor Gollum]

My daughter was taught where meat comes from at school when she was seven years old. That was thirty years ago and she has been a vegetarian ever since. 

I suggest taking her to the Ferry Inn in Horning for Sunday lunch...

Veggie starter is a giant Yorkshire pud with onion gravy*

Grill some decent smoked bacon for breakfast on Monday and I would wager that she will succumb

* obviously decent gravy is made with beef dripping. This is no exception 

[Migv6 le Frog Fan]

She dines at Londons finest restaurants regularly, and hasn't succumbed to non veggie food yet, even after copious amounts of alcohol.
Stubborn as a mule doesnt begin to cover it. Cant think where she gets that trait from, but it isn't me.   

[Sir Tigger KC]

Many years ago after a 'few' beers I convinced a veggie mate to have a kebab with loads of chilly sauce! 

He spent much of the next day running to the loo and cursing me vigorously.   I of course, was full of sympathy!     

As far as know, he hasn't touched a morsel of meat in the 25 years since. 

[ronnyd]

Lizzie, do a poll now of children. I think we would be surprised at where they think meat and milk comes from ( other than supermarkets of course).

Yes, the ignorance is still out there, but not because the info is not available to them on tv, on the Internet and indeed everywhere. But now in 2019, unlike the 1930's (which my Eastend mum used to refer to on this type of subject) it is probably due to many parents still being reluctant to inform their little darlings about one of the facts of life; us humans eat living things, like those cute little lambs!!

As Andy touches on there are young children who understand the truth, but I must say I would have been that little girl in 1958 who would not have known that grissly fact. I was a very a emotional kid, and still am as an adult, who would have cried her eyes out if I was told things like that. In fact it was in about 1960 when I first saw on TV a lion killing some young, helpless, and cute animal. My mum took ages to calm me down and, with much love, explain that was nature; it was the way of life

No Lizzie, I prefer my meat to be dead before i eat it.

[Lizzie Zoom]

Lizzie, do a poll now of children. I think we would be surprised at where they think meat and milk comes from ( other than supermarkets of course).

Yes, the ignorance is still out there, but not because the info is not available to them on tv, on the Internet and indeed everywhere. But now in 2019, unlike the 1930's (which my Eastend mum used to refer to on this type of subject) it is probably due to many parents still being reluctant to inform their little darlings about one of the facts of life; us humans eat living things, like those cute little lambs!!

As Andy touches on there are young children who understand the truth, but I must say I would have been that little girl in 1958 who would not have known that grissly fact. I was a very a emotional kid, and still am as an adult, who would have cried her eyes out if I was told things like that. In fact it was in about 1960 when I first saw on TV a lion killing some young, helpless, and cute animal. My mum took ages to calm me down and, with much love, explain that was nature; it was the way of life

No Lizzie, I prefer my meat to be dead before i eat it.

  very good

[Viral_Jim]

I don't get why vegans/veggos need 'meat flavoured sausages' etc... if meat is that repugnant to you, why do you then want to replicate its flavour/texture. ??

It's to  appeal to millennial meat eaters who rather like the taste of meat thank-you-very-much, but don't eat it on the grounds of animal welfare of environmentalism.

Edit: apologies Varche 

[aaronjb]

Lizzie, do a poll now of children. I think we would be surprised at where they think meat and milk comes from ( other than supermarkets of course).

My 'little girl' is now 30 but when she was about 4 or 5 she made the connection with the little frolicking lambs in the fields with what we'd just had for Sunday Dinner ..... 

Is that because you shouted "Mint sauce!" when you walked past the fields?

Or maybe that's just me

[Andy B]

Lizzie, do a poll now of children. I think we would be surprised at where they think meat and milk comes from ( other than supermarkets of course).

My 'little girl' is now 30 but when she was about 4 or 5 she made the connection with the little frolicking lambs in the fields with what we'd just had for Sunday Dinner ..... 

Is that because you shouted "Mint sauce!" when you walked past the fields?

Or maybe that's just me

She saw the lambs as we drove passed & said 'we had lamb on Sunday didn't we?'  and we saw the look on her face as she slowly put 2 & 2 together ..... she was then very quiet for a while 

[aaronjb]

I shouldn't laugh ..

.. but I did 

[Lizzie Zoom]

Lizzie, do a poll now of children. I think we would be surprised at where they think meat and milk comes from ( other than supermarkets of course).

My 'little girl' is now 30 but when she was about 4 or 5 she made the connection with the little frolicking lambs in the fields with what we'd just had for Sunday Dinner ..... 

Is that because you shouted "Mint sauce!" when you walked past the fields?

Or maybe that's just me

She saw the lambs as we drove passed & said 'we had lamb on Sunday didn't we?'  and we saw the look on her face as she slowly put 2 & 2 together ..... she was then very quiet for a while

Ahhhhhhhhhhhh, poor little dear!     That has brought tears to my eyes

[Rods2]

Probably due to not wanting the death of an animal but replicating what we all enjoy. The flavour and texture of meat. I have always said that anyone wanting to eat meat ought to take a life at least once. Poultry or a pig. It isn't that easy. Most people don't identify meat with an actual animal. It is just something you buy from a supermarket in a packet.

Tomas Schaffernaker the weather man was 35 before he found out that Lamb and Sheep were the same animal.

Normal village life in Ukraine where the majority of the cockerels raised from chicks are destined for the pot. BIL is the families pig dispatcher & then a family job to bleed for black pudding, burn off the bristles, render & make the sausages. Used to regularly get a brace of pheasants from a friend who goes shooting. Used to hang them for a few days in the cold garage to mature, then me & the wife would gut & pluck them. The old birds (you can tell from the legs) went in the stewing pot, while the younger ones in the roasting tin.

When it comes to killing for meat I look at it that the animal would not have a good but short life but for the fact we breed & raise them to eat.

[Sir Tigger KC]

Used to regularly get a brace of pheasants from a friend who goes shooting. Used to hang them for a few days in the cold garage to mature, then me & the wife would gut & pluck them. The old birds (you can tell from the legs) went in the stewing pot, while the younger ones in the roasting tin.

I think the rule of thumb is that you hang them until the maggots appear. 

Then they'll be nice and gamey! 

[Lizzie Zoom]

Our distant, and not so distant forebears would fall about laughing, or crying, about all this.

Even my grandmother would have shouted "think yourself bloody lucky you have food to eat"!

She remembered the days when people went for long periods without anything decent to eat, bread, veg, and especially meat.

I hated her neck of lamb stews, which my mum also used to specialise in, but if I complained........................well, heaven help me!!