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[Rods2]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/money/cars/article-5206115/Most-reliable-small-cars.html

The Renault Modus in a Nissan Note disguise is the most unreliable. Who would of thought it?

Jaguar as a brand is well down the list, so I guess it is a 'good' replacement for ex-Omega owners!

[Bigron]

The major car manufacturers have been making vehicles for long enough now to get it right, surely, and engineer a worthy product? No excuse for unreliability with modern materials and techniques.

Ron.

[Kevin Wood]

The major car manufacturers have been making vehicles for long enough now to get it right, surely, and engineer a worthy product? No excuse for unreliability with modern materials and techniques.

Ron.

That would be true if they weren't constantly trying to make things cheaper and more appeasing of the tree-huggers. 

[aaronjb]

The major car manufacturers have been making vehicles for long enough now to get it right, surely, and engineer a worthy product? No excuse for unreliability with modern materials and techniques.

Ron.

That would be true if they weren't constantly trying to make things cheaper and more appeasing of the tree-huggers. 

I was going to say - I'm sure an engineer could design a reliable car; except they're not designed by engineers or designers but committees of bean counters..

[Viral_Jim]

The major car manufacturers have been making vehicles for long enough now to get it right, surely, and engineer a worthy product? No excuse for unreliability with modern materials and techniques.

Ron.

You'd hope, but its doubtful imho. Taking one specific example, both the x-type and XJ X350 had a problem with water ingress into the boot, via the rear light clusters if I remember correctly. Spin forward to 2014 and my then boss was deprived of his facelifted XF for a week and (other than for his warranty) would have had a nearly £1500 bill for.... water ingress into the boot via the rear light clusters .

[Varche]

Isnt there a good revenue stream from building unreliable cars? . People will always buy on price rather than some reliability table.

[Nick W]

Isnt there a good revenue stream from building unreliable cars? . People will always buy on price rather than some reliability table.

Reliability your main concern? Buy a Toyota.


If you want almost as good a record for a bit less, buy one of the Korean marques.


The fancier the car, the less reliable it's likely to be.


Any questions?

[aaronjb]

Any questions?

Does that include SsangYong? (Mercedes for the blind or a five year old Mercedes redesigned by a toddler )

[Migv6 le Frog Fan]

Every full time mechanic who I consider worth the name says the same thing. "If you want a car that wont break down, buy a Toyota".
Ive never owned one, so cant verify it, but I expect there must be something in it.

[Nick W]

Any questions?

Does that include SsangYong? (Mercedes for the blind or a five year old Mercedes redesigned by a toddler )

The more recent ones aren't. And would you really want old Merc bits thrown together by a budget manufacturer?

[aaronjb]

Every full time mechanic who I consider worth the name says the same thing. "If you want a car that wont break down, buy a Toyota".
Ive never owned one, so cant verify it, but I expect there must be something in it.

Except for all the 1ZZ-FE* powered ones that suffered catastrophic engine failure, they're dead reliable

*MR2 Roadster, Celica, Corolla, Yaris IIRC. Seemed worse on the Roadster, theory was that the increased oil consumption caused the pre-CATs to fail more quickly on those due to physical location closer to the cylinders.

[Lizzie Zoom]

Toyota at 86% reliability.

If my old F reg 1.6 Carina II Estate, that I had from 2002 to 2005 when I returned to the Omega fold, is anything to go by I am not surprised.  That old car which I fully maintained and drove for 60K miles, which already had 125k on the clock, NEVER let me down.  Started every time, and reached speeds that meant I could keep pace with the best on the motorways. Great to work on, and spares readily available at a good price for me through a friendly local dealers parts manager. It even gave me back a profit of £50, over the purchase price of £300, when I sold it.

If I had the money/need to run multiple vehicles, a Toyota would be one of them

[TD]

I see Ford are fairly high on the list....which isn't surprising to me....as my Mondeo has been reliable 

I am looking to swap it out tho......for a 2L diesel as my current one, a 1.6L, is gonna struggle with a tow bar on the back...

I am looking at a 2L at the moment, but it has a semi autobox in it......not sure how reliable these boxes are  and will it protest towing 

[Marks DTM Calib]

I see Ford are fairly high on the list....which isn't surprising to me....as my Mondeo has been reliable 

I am looking to swap it out tho......for a 2L diesel as my current one, a 1.6L, is gonna struggle with a tow bar on the back...

I am looking at a 2L at the moment, but it has a semi autobox in it......not sure how reliable these boxes are  and will it protest towing 

The dry clutch ones on the smaller engines are utter wank, the wet clutch ones on the larger power plants better......but towing is any bodies guess.

[Andy B]

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The dry clutch ones on the smaller engines are utter wank, .......

That's the Powershitshift isn't it?